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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,947
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    The My Pillow guy is addressing the press in the rose garden. WTF? 

    That's the second time today I've heard the term "Pillow Guy".  What does that mean?
    guy who developed a pillow fill and became a multi-millionaire from late night comercials
    ...


    he is a big supporter of the buffoon in chief.


    Ah, thank you.  I just read up a bit on the guy.  Yeesh, looks like the dude is a real winner.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Posts: 1,024

    U.S. Rep. Ron Wright woke up Saturday morning with a fever and flu-like symptoms.

    The Arlington Republican had been in Washington, D.C., the day before, voting on the federal stimulus package known as the CARES Act. So he talked to his doctor and then headed to the Emergency Room.

    He went through five hours of various tests, including one for coronavirus.

    “On Sunday morning, I received the news that I thankfully tested negative for COVID-19 but do have a mild case of pneumonia,” Wright, 66, said in a prepared statement. “I never would have thought I’d be happy to hear a positive pneumonia diagnosis.”
    (con't in link)

    How is he getting test results for Covid-19 in one day? Everything I keep reading is around 5 days. Are you all hearing of such rapid results?
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,631
    PJNB said:
    tish said:
    Day 1 of Back to School - At home. We did 5 worksheets from a provincial website.
    I think for the remainder of the week we will stick to literacy (reading the book series I procured before X hit the fan) and numeracy (playing an online fun math game).
    I wonder what the kids' teacher is going to come up with asides from more planning work/stress?

    Also, I was thinking recently, that schooling from home does not have "class size" limitations, therefore one teacher could "teach" or plan for more than one class, which would reduce the numbers of teachers needed if this kept on for a while...

    What age is your child and what site are you using? I am from NB if it matters and only accessible to residents of the province. I have 1 in kindergarten and am using books from the bookstore but would like to implement some online learning too. 
    Here are some more online resources I booked mark during the B.Ed. I completed this year based on BCs renewed curriculum at UBC:

    https://teachbc.bctf.ca
    http://earlylearningsd23.weebly.com
    https://www.oercommons.org/search?f.search=human+rights&f.general_subject=social-science&f.sublevel=middle-school&f.alignment_standard=
    https://code.org/educate/curriculum/elementary-school
    https://www.gonoodle.com
    https://bhi61nm2cr3mkdgk1dtaov18-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-Positive-Norms-Description-Paper-1.pdf
    https://tc2.ca/en/creative-collaborative-critical-thinking/resources/t4t-tools-for-thought/
    https://scratch.mit.edu
    https://improv.ca
    https://letstalkscience.ca/resources/search
    https://www.kindergartenkindergarten.com/measurement/
    https://developers.google.com/blockly/
    http://www.corestandards.org/Math/Content/G/

    I threw in a couple of links I used for the Kindies.
    Have fun! Try the go-noodle for movement breaks in between subjects. MIT site is good for programming!

  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,950
    tish said:
    PJNB said:
    tish said:
    Day 1 of Back to School - At home. We did 5 worksheets from a provincial website.
    I think for the remainder of the week we will stick to literacy (reading the book series I procured before X hit the fan) and numeracy (playing an online fun math game).
    I wonder what the kids' teacher is going to come up with asides from more planning work/stress?

    Also, I was thinking recently, that schooling from home does not have "class size" limitations, therefore one teacher could "teach" or plan for more than one class, which would reduce the numbers of teachers needed if this kept on for a while...

    What age is your child and what site are you using? I am from NB if it matters and only accessible to residents of the province. I have 1 in kindergarten and am using books from the bookstore but would like to implement some online learning too. 
    Here are some more online resources I booked mark during the B.Ed. I completed this year based on BCs renewed curriculum at UBC:

    https://teachbc.bctf.ca
    http://earlylearningsd23.weebly.com
    https://www.oercommons.org/search?f.search=human+rights&f.general_subject=social-science&f.sublevel=middle-school&f.alignment_standard=
    https://code.org/educate/curriculum/elementary-school
    https://www.gonoodle.com
    https://bhi61nm2cr3mkdgk1dtaov18-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-Positive-Norms-Description-Paper-1.pdf
    https://tc2.ca/en/creative-collaborative-critical-thinking/resources/t4t-tools-for-thought/
    https://scratch.mit.edu
    https://improv.ca
    https://letstalkscience.ca/resources/search
    https://www.kindergartenkindergarten.com/measurement/
    https://developers.google.com/blockly/
    http://www.corestandards.org/Math/Content/G/

    I threw in a couple of links I used for the Kindies.
    Have fun! Try the go-noodle for movement breaks in between subjects. MIT site is good for programming!


    Can you help home school my kids during the quarantine?  We can set up Skype, virtual classrooms, whatever you need! 

    Kidding, of course.  Sounds like you're doing an awesome job!  :)
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    tish said:
    PJNB said:
    tish said:
    Day 1 of Back to School - At home. We did 5 worksheets from a provincial website.
    I think for the remainder of the week we will stick to literacy (reading the book series I procured before X hit the fan) and numeracy (playing an online fun math game).
    I wonder what the kids' teacher is going to come up with asides from more planning work/stress?

    Also, I was thinking recently, that schooling from home does not have "class size" limitations, therefore one teacher could "teach" or plan for more than one class, which would reduce the numbers of teachers needed if this kept on for a while...

    What age is your child and what site are you using? I am from NB if it matters and only accessible to residents of the province. I have 1 in kindergarten and am using books from the bookstore but would like to implement some online learning too. 
    Here are some more online resources I booked mark during the B.Ed. I completed this year based on BCs renewed curriculum at UBC:

    https://teachbc.bctf.ca
    http://earlylearningsd23.weebly.com
    https://www.oercommons.org/search?f.search=human+rights&f.general_subject=social-science&f.sublevel=middle-school&f.alignment_standard=
    https://code.org/educate/curriculum/elementary-school
    https://www.gonoodle.com
    https://bhi61nm2cr3mkdgk1dtaov18-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/2017-Positive-Norms-Description-Paper-1.pdf
    https://tc2.ca/en/creative-collaborative-critical-thinking/resources/t4t-tools-for-thought/
    https://scratch.mit.edu
    https://improv.ca
    https://letstalkscience.ca/resources/search
    https://www.kindergartenkindergarten.com/measurement/
    https://developers.google.com/blockly/
    http://www.corestandards.org/Math/Content/G/

    I threw in a couple of links I used for the Kindies.
    Have fun! Try the go-noodle for movement breaks in between subjects. MIT site is good for programming!

    Thanks I will check them out tonight!
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    The best pillow ever is one you can make yourself.  Cut an old memory foam mattress topper into marble-sized chunks, stuff them into an old pillowcase and sew it shut. 
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • rgambs said:
    The best pillow ever is one you can make yourself.  Cut an old memory foam mattress topper into marble-sized chunks, stuff them into an old pillowcase and sew it shut. 
    Yeah but then you would not be supporting that mustached weirdo.
    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,720
    For those looking for anxiety medicine

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/30/health/coronavirus-lower-death-rate/index.html

    Also, great video and a must watch.

    https://youtu.be/WxyH1rkuLaw


  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,423

    U.S. Rep. Ron Wright woke up Saturday morning with a fever and flu-like symptoms.

    The Arlington Republican had been in Washington, D.C., the day before, voting on the federal stimulus package known as the CARES Act. So he talked to his doctor and then headed to the Emergency Room.

    He went through five hours of various tests, including one for coronavirus.

    “On Sunday morning, I received the news that I thankfully tested negative for COVID-19 but do have a mild case of pneumonia,” Wright, 66, said in a prepared statement. “I never would have thought I’d be happy to hear a positive pneumonia diagnosis.”
    (con't in link)

    How is he getting test results for Covid-19 in one day? Everything I keep reading is around 5 days. Are you all hearing of such rapid results?

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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    Yeah, the actual time it takes to complete the test is far less than 24 hours. Any additional time seen is going to be due to some sort of backlog, perhaps in techs to run the tests but more likely in access to the equipment on which to run the tests. Of course there is some prep time, then a bit of time to record and report the results. 
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  • RunIntoTheRainRunIntoTheRain Posts: 1,024
    edited March 2020
    Post edited by RunIntoTheRain on
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,631
    edited March 2020
    Thanks for the link MayDAy.. It's a goodie.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    CM189191 said:
    DewieCox said:
    DewieCox said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    CM189191 said:
    JW269453 said:
    Here is a perspective from someone who doesn’t get wrapped up in rooting for one side or the other. Why did we not already have a plan in place for how to handle a worldwide pandemic? A no questions asked, exact course of action type of plan. Seems to me like that might be something our government should have given some thought about well before Trump even had the idea of running for office. Our last administration saw what the swine flu pandemic could do, and that was with a understanding of how to combat the H1N1 virus already. There were microbiologists predicting something like this current coronavirus pandemic with uncanny accuracy years ago. I have attached a review from the American Society for Microbiology published back in October of 2007 for reference along with the very accurate portion in a screenshot. No president should have to make up a plan on the fly when it comes to the safety of our country. Sorry, but this shit falls squarely on the inability of our government and not having their priorities straight long ago. Republican or Democrat it doesn’t matter, while all they care about is pointing fingers and acting like fucking children measures could have been taken. You don’t have to like Trump, and he undoubtedly says some off the wall things but the blame for this should be directed elsewhere. When do we stop letting our government divide us and start holding them accountable instead of spreading hate amongst each other? People just can’t seem to see the forest for the trees. RATM said it best, WAKE UP!

    https://cmr.asm.org/content/20/4/660.full


    ....ummmmm.....

    Before Trump’s inauguration, a warning: ‘The worst influenza pandemic since 1918’
    In a tabletop exercise days before an untested new president took power, officials briefed the incoming administration on a scenario remarkably like the one he faces now.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/16/trump-inauguration-warning-scenario-pandemic-132797

    Trump admin was briefed on a possible pandemic driving transition by the outgoing Obama administration. Trump disbanded the National Security Council pandemic unit. Trump dropped the ball on the response.

    Stop with the both sides are bad bullshit.  Trump administration single handedly fucked America on this one.
    My whole point is we dropped the ball as a country by not having an existing immediate response plan. One that doesn’t change unless it is being amended and is standard protocol regardless of who is in the White House. If these parameters are met then follow these guidelines, does that not sound like something that should have already been achieved at some point in our governments history? Every election is a gamble and this would aid in making sure losing bets don’t make catastrophic mistakes. I should have known better than to use the trigger word because that is all many of you get hung up on. Nowhere did I state he was doing a good job or was void of some responsibility, I also never said Obama was at fault. Placing the blame on one person for the state of any government is just silly. I simply feel it is ridiculous that our country and many others were totally caught off guard and didn’t have mandatory protocol already in place, ready to implement. If you can’t see this as a preexisting issue that is every bit as culpable, then maybe as someone commented we do live on different planets. My hope is we learn from our mistakes because all we should be focused on is being better prepared in the future. You can go back to your hive mind mentality believing every Democratic run government was perfect from 1828 to present. Fuck, that is some strong Kool-Aid.
    Every Democratic government in my lifetime was significantly better ran than everyone Republican administration by any and every metric. 
    Rich, coming from a former Chicagoan.

    The biggest issue with the current system is that it promotes choosing sides, winning and losing, my way or the highway. If you don’t think both parties have contributed to that equally you’re delusional. 
    That’s garbage. It hasn’t been “equal.” You can look as far back as Reagan and the massive disparity between dems and repubs in the house and senate all the way up to 2010 or 2012 when repubs decided that their “number one priority was to see this president fail.” Dems have come nowhere close to what Moscow Mitchy Baby and his ilk have done over the past 12 years. Not even close.

    Both sides are not the same. Stop believing the T party mantra. Yet another false equivalency.
    I don’t know what the T party mantra even means. Turn off the CNN
    Despite CNN, your claim is garbage. Both sides are not the same. Copious examples have been provided in this thread and others of the differences. Tune in to reality.
    Depends on from where you look.
    ...well....there's your problem...


    Nice selfie...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,491
    Interview with the first case in New Jersey in yesterdays The Daily. Scary:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/30/podcasts/the-daily/coronavirus-new-jersey.html
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,491
    edited March 2020
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    Thank you, I was really starting to need a Giesecke update!
    No problems. He will lead us all through this!

    Isn't he the guy who favors gatherings of 50 or more people?  Why is he so much more right than all the other scientists around the world who favor sheltering at home and social distancing?

    Don't know what he has said regarding 50 or more people. But this is what he said when we had our first ban, of 500 people:

    Johan Giesecke also criticizes the government's decision to ban public gatherings with more than 500 people.

    - If you believe in that kind of measure, there should be fewer in each group.

    How many then?

    - 10-25, somewhere there.

    and
    Sweden's decision to stop public gatherings of more than 500 people is "a half-measure" and its effectiveness can be called into question. This is stated by the infection protection expert and former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke in SVT's Aktuellt.

    - If you want to do that, I think you should have a little smaller groups, he says.

    The statement came in comparison with how other countries have acted, where, among other things, Finland and Denmark set the limit for a maximum of ten people.

    However, Giesecke emphasizes that there is no science on which number of constraints is best. Denmark previously had a limit of a maximum of 100 people, but it was changed to ten during Tuesday.


    Unless they are children, of course.  If they are children then let them snot and spit and cough all over each other.  Because...science?

    Riiiiigt.
    rgambs and also @mcgruff10



    But Johan Giesecke, professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute, adviser to the WHO and former state epidemiologist is not particularly worried about infection in preschool and school environments.- There are things pointing to children not being very contagious. There are no studies on this, that is hard to do. But WHO had a delegation in China a month ago, where they asked doctors and epidemiologists if they knew of cases where a child had infected an adult, none of them could recall such a case. On a scientific basis, that in itself is quite thin. But there has also been no outbreak in Chinese schools - and if children were heavily infected, they would have seen school outbreaks, says Johan Giesecke to the Teachers' Journal.


    Doctors and nurses in several countries have been reported to be seriously ill, something DN, among others, has told us about. One thesis is that those exposed to large viral doses are at higher risk of serious illness. Teachers and preschool teachers also meet many sick children under normal circumstances.- In a normal classroom, with a child who is infected, there is no great danger. What is really dangerous is to intubate people, to stab a tube in the throat of those who need to be cared for in a respirator. A lot of virus particles are produced there. But in a larger room, the particles are diluted and do not go that far. I don't consider that being in close contact or in contact for a long time either. A close contact is to sit next to someone for several hours on an airplane, says Johan Giesecke.

    How worried should one be as a teacher in preschool or school?
    - No need to worry. Most people who work in preschool and school are young and healthy people. For them it is not a huge risk, it is as good to get infected as you are rid of it (@rgambs). It is a completely different matter for the elderly, where it is important not to spread infection to the homes of the elderly. But spreading infection among children and young healthy adults is no danger, says Johan Giesecke.

    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,847
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,468
    not a service I will be willing to use going forward....
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,417

    mickeyrat said:
    not a service I will be willing to use going forward....

    I wonder if Stubhub will even survive this downturn.


  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,416
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
    I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429

    mickeyrat said:
    not a service I will be willing to use going forward....

    I wonder if Stubhub will even survive this downturn.


    Would be nice if they’re gutted but I have to imagine the overhead is crazy low and at best  they’ll  only take a hit until the industry recovers. 
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    Anybody see the grades based on downturn in movement during the stay at home order? State(IL) received a B and my county received a D. Big cities good grades, rural areas bad grades seems to be the pattern. 

    I’m the only one of my friends with a job deemed non essential and tons of factory, farming and medical workers in my area. 
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    Thank you, I was really starting to need a Giesecke update!
    No problems. He will lead us all through this!

    Isn't he the guy who favors gatherings of 50 or more people?  Why is he so much more right than all the other scientists around the world who favor sheltering at home and social distancing?

    Don't know what he has said regarding 50 or more people. But this is what he said when we had our first ban, of 500 people:

    Johan Giesecke also criticizes the government's decision to ban public gatherings with more than 500 people.

    - If you believe in that kind of measure, there should be fewer in each group.

    How many then?

    - 10-25, somewhere there.

    and
    Sweden's decision to stop public gatherings of more than 500 people is "a half-measure" and its effectiveness can be called into question. This is stated by the infection protection expert and former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke in SVT's Aktuellt.

    - If you want to do that, I think you should have a little smaller groups, he says.

    The statement came in comparison with how other countries have acted, where, among other things, Finland and Denmark set the limit for a maximum of ten people.

    However, Giesecke emphasizes that there is no science on which number of constraints is best. Denmark previously had a limit of a maximum of 100 people, but it was changed to ten during Tuesday.


    Unless they are children, of course.  If they are children then let them snot and spit and cough all over each other.  Because...science?

    Riiiiigt.
    rgambs and also @mcgruff10



    But Johan Giesecke, professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute, adviser to the WHO and former state epidemiologist is not particularly worried about infection in preschool and school environments.
    - There are things pointing to children not being very contagious. There are no studies on this, that is hard to do. But WHO had a delegation in China a month ago, where they asked doctors and epidemiologists if they knew of cases where a child had infected an adult, none of them could recall such a case. On a scientific basis, that in itself is quite thin. But there has also been no outbreak in Chinese schools - and if children were heavily infected, they would have seen school outbreaks, says Johan Giesecke to the Teachers' Journal.


    Doctors and nurses in several countries have been reported to be seriously ill, something DN, among others, has told us about. One thesis is that those exposed to large viral doses are at higher risk of serious illness. Teachers and preschool teachers also meet many sick children under normal circumstances.
    - In a normal classroom, with a child who is infected, there is no great danger. What is really dangerous is to intubate people, to stab a tube in the throat of those who need to be cared for in a respirator. A lot of virus particles are produced there. But in a larger room, the particles are diluted and do not go that far. I don't consider that being in close contact or in contact for a long time either. A close contact is to sit next to someone for several hours on an airplane, says Johan Giesecke.

    How worried should one be as a teacher in preschool or school?
    - No need to worry. Most people who work in preschool and school are young and healthy people. For them it is not a huge risk, it is as good to get infected as you are rid of it (@rgambs). It is a completely different matter for the elderly, where it is important not to spread infection to the homes of the elderly. But spreading infection among children and young healthy adults is no danger, says Johan Giesecke.



    Yeah, that is a profoundly idiotic statement that will be the discredit of his entire career.
    When this is all over and thousands or tens of thousands of children and young healthy adults are gone from the world, I hope he gets held to task and ostracized from the world's scientific community.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,417
    DewieCox said:

    mickeyrat said:
    not a service I will be willing to use going forward....

    I wonder if Stubhub will even survive this downturn.


    Would be nice if they’re gutted but I have to imagine the overhead is crazy low and at best  they’ll  only take a hit until the industry recovers. 


    I agree; they can probably let most of their staff go, keep the name, and retool on the other side of this... but I am very curious what the industry will look like when it does recover.

    Will the pricing drop for concerts and sporting events? There's going to have to be some good incentive to get people to pack arenas & stadiums, at least in the beginning. There won't be a ton of demand there... Tool was struggling to sell a lot of their tickets BEFORE the epidemic took shape (I assume because of the price tag)... I think there'll be a significant market correction for these luxuries, at least in the short term. I could be wrong on this; I am assuming most people feel like me, and can't see themselves going into a crowd like this for some time... I could be off on that assumption.

    This is small potatoes, I have much bigger immediate concerns, as do most of us; but part of me is definitely curious to see what happens with the whole sports / concert  landscape when we do emerge from this current shit show.

  • rgambs said:
    rgambs said:
    brianlux said:
    rgambs said:
    Thank you, I was really starting to need a Giesecke update!
    No problems. He will lead us all through this!

    Isn't he the guy who favors gatherings of 50 or more people?  Why is he so much more right than all the other scientists around the world who favor sheltering at home and social distancing?

    Don't know what he has said regarding 50 or more people. But this is what he said when we had our first ban, of 500 people:

    Johan Giesecke also criticizes the government's decision to ban public gatherings with more than 500 people.

    - If you believe in that kind of measure, there should be fewer in each group.

    How many then?

    - 10-25, somewhere there.

    and
    Sweden's decision to stop public gatherings of more than 500 people is "a half-measure" and its effectiveness can be called into question. This is stated by the infection protection expert and former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke in SVT's Aktuellt.

    - If you want to do that, I think you should have a little smaller groups, he says.

    The statement came in comparison with how other countries have acted, where, among other things, Finland and Denmark set the limit for a maximum of ten people.

    However, Giesecke emphasizes that there is no science on which number of constraints is best. Denmark previously had a limit of a maximum of 100 people, but it was changed to ten during Tuesday.


    Unless they are children, of course.  If they are children then let them snot and spit and cough all over each other.  Because...science?

    Riiiiigt.
    rgambs and also @mcgruff10



    But Johan Giesecke, professor emeritus at the Karolinska Institute, adviser to the WHO and former state epidemiologist is not particularly worried about infection in preschool and school environments.
    - There are things pointing to children not being very contagious. There are no studies on this, that is hard to do. But WHO had a delegation in China a month ago, where they asked doctors and epidemiologists if they knew of cases where a child had infected an adult, none of them could recall such a case. On a scientific basis, that in itself is quite thin. But there has also been no outbreak in Chinese schools - and if children were heavily infected, they would have seen school outbreaks, says Johan Giesecke to the Teachers' Journal.


    Doctors and nurses in several countries have been reported to be seriously ill, something DN, among others, has told us about. One thesis is that those exposed to large viral doses are at higher risk of serious illness. Teachers and preschool teachers also meet many sick children under normal circumstances.
    - In a normal classroom, with a child who is infected, there is no great danger. What is really dangerous is to intubate people, to stab a tube in the throat of those who need to be cared for in a respirator. A lot of virus particles are produced there. But in a larger room, the particles are diluted and do not go that far. I don't consider that being in close contact or in contact for a long time either. A close contact is to sit next to someone for several hours on an airplane, says Johan Giesecke.

    How worried should one be as a teacher in preschool or school?
    - No need to worry. Most people who work in preschool and school are young and healthy people. For them it is not a huge risk, it is as good to get infected as you are rid of it (@rgambs). It is a completely different matter for the elderly, where it is important not to spread infection to the homes of the elderly. But spreading infection among children and young healthy adults is no danger, says Johan Giesecke.



    Yeah, that is a profoundly idiotic statement that will be the discredit of his entire career.
    When this is all over and thousands or tens of thousands of children and young healthy adults are gone from the world, I hope he gets held to task and ostracized from the world's scientific community.

    SC is a believer & will go down with his ship -- in full support of Captain Johan and Captain Bernie.

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
  • rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this.  The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society. 
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,338
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
    I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...
    It's not as bad a gathering as I would expect but it's bad...
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,416
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
    I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...
    It's not as bad a gathering as I would expect but it's bad...
    Screw that I don’t go near groups of 3 or more even in hospital I stay 6 feet from all my coworkers, in our office we have a double door anyone not part of our office stays outside we’re also taking days off so as to not have more than 4 of us in office at once we usihave 8 of us...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,338
    rgambs said:
    I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this.  The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society. 
    You shut your mouth.  I want my sports dammit.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,338
    https://nypost.com/2020/03/30/crowds-ignore-social-distancing-rules-to-watch-usns-comfort/amp/
    I give up NYerkrs are a bunch of idiots really pathetic, thank goodness I’m out here in the suburbs...
    It's not as bad a gathering as I would expect but it's bad...
    Screw that I don’t go near groups of 3 or more even in hospital I stay 6 feet from all my coworkers, in our office we have a double door anyone not part of our office stays outside we’re also taking days off so as to not have more than 4 of us in office at once we usihave 8 of us...
    I don't either but that pic isn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be.
  • rgambs said:
    I would definitely be glad to see sports take a less prominent role in our society when we recover from this.  The sheer amount of money, time, and mental effort spent on sports games needs to be put to better use in a civilized society. 
    I can see your point but personally I welcome the distraction.  Those who do not enjoy it can certainly leave it. How many ways can I look at video of this lost / clueless fool give press conferences before I lose my mind.  

    The love he receives is the love that is saved
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