The coronavirus
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Zod said:What I don't get is if this is successful, and closing everything down slows it down... doesn't this mean we'll be dealing with it for month and months? So many decisions are for 2 weeks to 6 weeks... but it would seem if those actions work, it could go on a very long while.. of which I wonder how long it can go on for before people go nuts.Despite my many hours working at a health library, I'm not a health care expert but here's what makes sense to me:It's all about flattening the curve as a measure to slow the infection rate down. This is hugely important right now because there just aren't enough health care workers or health care resources to deal with a high curve. A "hihg curve" means a lot of people getting sick at the same time. Social distancing and isolating lowers the curve meaning fewer people being sick at the same time. Yes, that does mean a longer curve/ longer time, but with less people sick at the same time allowing health services to keep up with the need for care. There are several videos about this on line. Easy to find with Google and the concept makes a lot of sense.
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bbiggs said:dignin said:
Go to Your Local Pub': While Experts Call for Social Distancing, Rep. Devin Nunes Advises People to Leave Their Homes
https://time.com/5803470/devin-nunes-coronavirus-covid-19/
You nailed it, b!
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brianlux said:dignin said:
Go to Your Local Pub': While Experts Call for Social Distancing, Rep. Devin Nunes Advises People to Leave Their Homes
https://time.com/5803470/devin-nunes-coronavirus-covid-19/
Because Nunes says so. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Got it.
Last night the Governor of Oklahoma tweeted from a resturant with his kids encouraging people to get out... Then deleted it, today he declared state of emergency after positive tests starting popping up at the Universities and those cities declared emergencies.. - ... assclown...."The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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brianlux said:Zod said:What I don't get is if this is successful, and closing everything down slows it down... doesn't this mean we'll be dealing with it for month and months? So many decisions are for 2 weeks to 6 weeks... but it would seem if those actions work, it could go on a very long while.. of which I wonder how long it can go on for before people go nuts.Despite my many hours working at a health library, I'm not a health care expert but here's what makes sense to me:It's all about flattening the curve as a measure to slow the infection rate down. This is hugely important right now because there just aren't enough health care workers or health care resources to deal with a high curve. A "hihg curve" means a lot of people getting sick at the same time. Social distancing and isolating lowers the curve meaning fewer people being sick at the same time. Yes, that does mean a longer curve/ longer time, but with less people sick at the same time allowing health services to keep up with the need for care. There are several videos about this on line. Easy to find with Google and the concept makes a lot of sense.
Good article here with cool animations explaining
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread, exponentially and how to “flatten the curve”0 -
Went to shop rite tonight around 9 pm to avoid the crowds. Got pretty much everything g except Bread was pretty much wiped out. Toilet paper and paper towels:
I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Saltzy23 said:josevolution said:The hospital I work in just canceled all elective surgeries till April 18th..
Seriously.
Is it just anything that is not considered life and death?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Another Republican Deplorable. Former Congressman and Lt. Governor of Florida.His vacation was ruined!0
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CM189191 said:brianlux said:Zod said:What I don't get is if this is successful, and closing everything down slows it down... doesn't this mean we'll be dealing with it for month and months? So many decisions are for 2 weeks to 6 weeks... but it would seem if those actions work, it could go on a very long while.. of which I wonder how long it can go on for before people go nuts.Despite my many hours working at a health library, I'm not a health care expert but here's what makes sense to me:It's all about flattening the curve as a measure to slow the infection rate down. This is hugely important right now because there just aren't enough health care workers or health care resources to deal with a high curve. A "hihg curve" means a lot of people getting sick at the same time. Social distancing and isolating lowers the curve meaning fewer people being sick at the same time. Yes, that does mean a longer curve/ longer time, but with less people sick at the same time allowing health services to keep up with the need for care. There are several videos about this on line. Easy to find with Google and the concept makes a lot of sense.
Good article here with cool animations explaining
https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/world/corona-simulator/Why outbreaks like coronavirus spread, exponentially and how to “flatten the curve”Good example, CM. I saw that on another site and it does explain well. The moving graph with all the little balls floating around made my vertigo brain a little wonkie- wish I could watch it longer- looks pretty cool.But yeah, good illustration."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Smellyman said:Another Republican Deplorable. Former Congressman and Lt. Governor of Florida.His vacation was ruined!Wow- no shit! The another creep come crawling out of the woodwork!California's ski industry is getting pounded too. Heavenly, Kirkwood, Sugar Bowl, Squaw Valley, Big Bear, Mammouth- holy crap- all the great ones had to shut down (makes sense though) - and just when we are finally getting lots of great snow. A tough break for our ski folks."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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Is there a point in the crisis where the decision will have to be made to return to normal even at the expense of people at risk to the virus. How long can people be expected to sit and take financial hits? I don’t mean stock market swings I mean people actually not getting paychecks. I have zero faith that the government will take care of the long term financial needs of the people if this stretches out too long.Scio me nihil scire
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static111 said:Is there a point in the crisis where the decision will have to be made to return to normal even at the expense of people at risk to the virus. How long can people be expected to sit and take financial hits? I don’t mean stock market swings I mean people actually not getting paychecks. I have zero faith that the government will take care of the long term financial needs of the people if this stretches out too long.Excellent question, static. There are a number hypotheses out there about the economic consequences. I think the hardest thing about this is that just don't know. My wife (and later I) went to work this morning at the bookstore and at the end of the day we found ourselves going home to self quarantine- hoping to stay well- and suddenly, at the very least, temporarily out of jobs (and she owns half the business!) Will the store stand? We hope to scrape by,but who knows? My poor wife is suddenly in deep thinking about where it's going for us and for her employees, and our book community.Fucking crazy shit's happening."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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DONALD TRUMP: I've been briefed on every contingency you could possibly imagine. Many contingencies. A lot of positive. Different numbers, all different numbers. Very large numbers. And some small numbers, too, by the way.
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brianlux said:Zod said:What I don't get is if this is successful, and closing everything down slows it down... doesn't this mean we'll be dealing with it for month and months? So many decisions are for 2 weeks to 6 weeks... but it would seem if those actions work, it could go on a very long while.. of which I wonder how long it can go on for before people go nuts.Despite my many hours working at a health library, I'm not a health care expert but here's what makes sense to me:It's all about flattening the curve as a measure to slow the infection rate down. This is hugely important right now because there just aren't enough health care workers or health care resources to deal with a high curve. A "hihg curve" means a lot of people getting sick at the same time. Social distancing and isolating lowers the curve meaning fewer people being sick at the same time. Yes, that does mean a longer curve/ longer time, but with less people sick at the same time allowing health services to keep up with the need for care. There are several videos about this on line. Easy to find with Google and the concept makes a lot of sense.Post edited by rhanishane on0
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Saltzy23 said:Seeing that Vegas is closed and they are shutting down all NYC restaurants except for pick up and delivery just put a shiver down my spine.
This is fucking surreal.
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The government presents a historic crisis package on Monday to protect jobs and businesses in the country. The measures may amount to as much as SEK 300 billion.The government is introducing, among other things, a new system for short-term work where the cost to the companies is reduced by more than half, but the employees are allowed to retain 90 percent of the salary.The government also announces that the state now takes over the full sick pay costs from the companies for two months."It is incredibly important that those who feel ill stay at home," says Liberals' economic policy spokesman Mats Persson.The measure is expected to cost several billions each month.Companies should also be given the right to postpone the payment of tax for up to one year. It can provide up to 300 billion in reinforcement to the companies.- This is a unique situation for the Swedish economy, says Magdalena Andersson."We want today's message that as many companies as possible should go through this crisis," she continues.The government has already announced that it will be delayed on waiting day and will be responsible for sick pay on the first day of sick leave. New legislation has also been introduced for short-term work, in order to avoid large-scale notification.According to the finance minister, there is no doubt that what we now see will have major consequences for the economy. Economists have warned that the corona crisis may be the worst economic downturn since the depression in the 1930s.- It is clear that the corona virus will have significant negative effects on jobs and the economy and many of them we already see, says Magdalena Andersson.- It's just as well to be clear, Sweden has a heavy and stressful time ahead of us."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:The government presents a historic crisis package on Monday to protect jobs and businesses in the country. The measures may amount to as much as SEK 300 billion.The government is introducing, among other things, a new system for short-term work where the cost to the companies is reduced by more than half, but the employees are allowed to retain 90 percent of the salary.The government also announces that the state now takes over the full sick pay costs from the companies for two months."It is incredibly important that those who feel ill stay at home," says Liberals' economic policy spokesman Mats Persson.The measure is expected to cost several billions each month.Companies should also be given the right to postpone the payment of tax for up to one year. It can provide up to 300 billion in reinforcement to the companies.- This is a unique situation for the Swedish economy, says Magdalena Andersson."We want today's message that as many companies as possible should go through this crisis," she continues.The government has already announced that it will be delayed on waiting day and will be responsible for sick pay on the first day of sick leave. New legislation has also been introduced for short-term work, in order to avoid large-scale notification.According to the finance minister, there is no doubt that what we now see will have major consequences for the economy. Economists have warned that the corona crisis may be the worst economic downturn since the depression in the 1930s.- It is clear that the corona virus will have significant negative effects on jobs and the economy and many of them we already see, says Magdalena Andersson.- It's just as well to be clear, Sweden has a heavy and stressful time ahead of us.Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.
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Thoughts_Arrive said:NOPEThere is no evidence that regularly rinsing the nose with saline has protected people from infection with the new coronavirus.
"While gargling some combination of warm water, salt, and vinegar has long been used as a means of relieving symptoms related to colds and flus, such as sore throats, there’s no evidence that it can help ward off or drive out infections from the COVID-19 coronavirus disease. And although the virus is said to replicate in the nose and nasal secretions, we’ve found nothing documenting the notion that the current coronavirus “remains in the throat for four days” and can be effectively expelled at the conclusion of that time period to keep it from reaching the lungs. (The incubation period for this virus, which is the time between when a person is exposed to the virus and when they start showing symptoms, has been estimated at about five days on average.)
The World Health Organization’s (WHO) website offers a page offering COVID-19 coronavirus disease advice for the public which addresses the substance of this rumor in an item about rinsing nasal passages (which are connected to the throat) with saline:
There is some limited evidence that regularly rinsing the nose with saline can help people recover more quickly from the common cold. However, regularly rinsing the nose has not been shown to prevent respiratory infections."
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I thought that image was posted as a joke..."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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