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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,383
    brianlux said:
    Excellent piece by James Howard Kunstler today as relates to what may happen as a result of the virus and hit to the economy:


    "We’re lucky for one thing: this crisis of advanced civilization is striking at the very start of the planting season. If you’re prudent, you can begin at once to organize serious gardening efforts, if you live in a part of the country where that is possible. I’d go heavy on the potatoes, cabbages, winter squashes, and beans, because they’re all keepers over winter. Baby chicks sell at the local ag stores for a few bucks each now and you’ll be very grateful for the eggs. Get a rooster — even though they can be a pain-in-the-ass — and you won’t have to buy any more chicks.

    If you live in a part of the country where the terrain is rugged and well-watered — as I do — start scoping out local hydro sites that might potentially generate electricity or drive machinery directly from water power. We will probably need more of that. Around here many of those sites are signified by the ruins of decommissioned factories and hydro-stations from not much more than a century ago. They were originally built with a lot less machine power than we would use today, and a lot more power of men working in groups. We’ve forgotten how effective men can be working together with pretty simple tools. We were too busy devaluing men in recent decades for the sake of a moral crusade to erase “gender” differences. Well, that will be bygone so fast your head will spin.

    The big cities won’t do well if supply chains stay down for a month or longer. This ought to be self-evident. If you have friends or relatives in places where food can be grown, or in the small towns favorably located near productive land and running water, maybe this is a good time to start negotiating some new arrangements and making a move, if you can. Nobody knows yet just how deeply the effects of corona virus will cut through daily life in the weeks ahead. The potential for disorder isn’t tiny, looking at the current situation, at least in terms of broken business relationships and the flow of vital goods. We’ve apparently entered the hunkering-in-place stage of the crisis. Be prepared for plenty of action when the hunkering ends and the hungering begins."



    If shit hit the fan I'm heading east to where the rich people w acreage live.

    They have deer and Turkey out there. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    No detail too small that can't be turned into hacky partisan grenade launching
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    This is pretty good if you're looking to check your symptoms and/or talk someone off the ledge




  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,221
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,201
    pjl44 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    No detail too small that can't be turned into hacky partisan grenade launching
    Were you around during the Obama years? In fact, I’d be willing to bet that if you polled residents of red states that they’d agree with Team Trump Treason’s dismantlement and defunding of the Obama era cabinet level position that was created to address and respond to this type of issue. You know, given the power of prayer and warmer weather and all? And that it’s no big deal.

    What’s your over/under on the number of votes Team Trump Treason receives in November?
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    pjl44 said:
    This is pretty good if you're looking to check your symptoms and/or talk someone off the ledge




    Anyone w a fever will most likely climb on to that ledge, lol.
  • Gern Blansten
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    yeah they make you think you will projectile vomit and diarrhea and bleed from your eyes

    it's the flu 
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  • tempo_n_groove
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    yeah they make you think you will projectile vomit and diarrhea and bleed from your eyes

    it's the flu 
    Ebola ain't the corona virus, that is for sure!
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
    Because the “other side” holds up Nazi flags at a Bernie rally and believes “both sides are the same.” Where was your outrage when Donny jr. stated that dems want to see millions of people die in order to make his daddy look bad, never mind Team Trump Treason’s continuous assault on our democratic institutions like the press and judiciary? Spare me the “hypocrisy.”
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  • nicknyr15
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    nicknyr15 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
    Because the “other side” holds up Nazi flags at a Bernie rally and believes “both sides are the same.” Where was your outrage when Donny jr. stated that dems want to see millions of people die in order to make his daddy look bad, never mind Team Trump Treason’s continuous assault on our democratic institutions like the press and judiciary? Spare me the “hypocrisy.”
    Can someone show me how to ignore another member? What a sad existence to post nothing but trump stuff on a Pearl Jam site. I feel sorry for you. 
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
    Because the “other side” holds up Nazi flags at a Bernie rally and believes “both sides are the same.” Where was your outrage when Donny jr. stated that dems want to see millions of people die in order to make his daddy look bad, never mind Team Trump Treason’s continuous assault on our democratic institutions like the press and judiciary? Spare me the “hypocrisy.”
    Can someone show me how to ignore another member? What a sad existence to post nothing but trump stuff on a Pearl Jam site. I feel sorry for you. 
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    Regarding my question, would you rather be mandatorily quarantined in a hospital or volunteer to self-isolate at home? @tempo_n_groove
    On this topic, I'll try to remember where I came across this, but there was an article talking about how there's no historical precedence for quarantine being an effective control mechanism for a pandemic, but that there is historical precedence for isolation being an effective control mechanism. The major difference is that isolation would only contain sick people, whereas quarantine contains a mix. I'm curious to re-read that framed specifically around these cruise ship disasters.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    Can you imagine the logistics of taking a week off for a cruise and then being detained for a month?  How many employers would put up with someone being gone a month?
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,529
    pjl44 said:
    This is pretty good if you're looking to check your symptoms and/or talk someone off the ledge




    Anyone w a fever will most likely climb on to that ledge, lol.
    Oh, I imagine most ledges are pretty crowded right now! It's interesting that, other than having been in a high risk part of the world, shortness of breath is the one distinct red flag.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    nicknyr15 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
    Because the “other side” holds up Nazi flags at a Bernie rally and believes “both sides are the same.” Where was your outrage when Donny jr. stated that dems want to see millions of people die in order to make his daddy look bad, never mind Team Trump Treason’s continuous assault on our democratic institutions like the press and judiciary? Spare me the “hypocrisy.”
    Can someone show me how to ignore another member? What a sad existence to post nothing but trump stuff on a Pearl Jam site. I feel sorry for you. 
    Its a post on a political forum where Trump is very much a part of the coronavirus in america story due to his incompetence and narcissism.

    I don't see that as sad at all. It's awareness.
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,383
    Can you imagine the logistics of taking a week off for a cruise and then being detained for a month?  How many employers would put up with someone being gone a month?
    14 days I thought for detaining?
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    yeah they make you think you will projectile vomit and diarrhea and bleed from your eyes

    it's the flu 
    The myth that this is the flu has been talked about on this thread at length.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,896
    Now the news says in the next 10 days anyone with even cold  symptoms will have to self isolate. Thats gonna be lots of people all the  kids at nursery are forever snotty. 


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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,185
    dignin said:
    yeah they make you think you will projectile vomit and diarrhea and bleed from your eyes

    it's the flu 
    The myth that this is the flu has been talked about on this thread at length.
    for all intents and purposes it's the goddamn flu
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  • benjs
    benjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,367
    nicknyr15 said:
    Here ya go @Halifax2TheMax
    Page said the county learned about the father-daughter dance on Sunday and officials told the man "to stay home or they will issue a formal quarantine that will require him and the rest of his family to stay home by the force of law."
    They were given a choice though, weren’t they? Would you have recommended they have been picked up and detained somewhere? You never answered my question regarding mandatory hospitalization or self-isolation. Again, if your ass was on the boat, I could only imagine your posts.

    And to your bolded part, and people thought it was Obama setting up the involuntary detention camps. In a red state no less.
    I've been in situations before beyond my control and rode it out knowing that it was only temporary and things would go back to normal.  My 10 weeks in Iraq is a testament to that type of thinking.  I would be fine on that ship.

    I didn't see you ask a question about hospitalization.  You mentioned wanting to be able to go to one but nothing about it being mandatory?  Re ask the question please.

    Being court ordered to stay home to stop the spread of a virus during the incubation period IN YOUR OWN HOME, shouldn't be that hard to do.
    Does Coronavirus cure stupidity?
    Huh?
    Regarding the idiot in Missouri going to the father/daughter dance. Then again, it’s a red state.
    Disgusting. Is it ok to call someone an idiot if they believe in god? Or if they think they’re the opposite sex? Why is ok to completely trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief? The hypocrisy is insane and Dems like you are gonna screw us with another 4 years
    The fact that a truly stupid person decided to take a quarantine instruction as a suggestion and endangered others, is not a product of anything other than a truly stupid person's reckless decision. I think it's a pretty safe assumption that stupid people exist in most population cross-sections (Red, Blue, or Purple states), so I agree with you about calling this what it is - a stupid person, not a stupid State.

    In terms of the "trounce and abuse someone based on their political belief", let's not pretend cheap shots rife with hypocrisies, exaggerations, and intentional context omissions, haven't been thrown in both directions. I'll let someone else pick up the inevitable fight over "who is worse/how much/why it's justifiable" because I don't care, but I agree that these subtle jabs do no one any favours.
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