CoVid19 Virus : Impact on PJ Spring & Summer Tours

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  • Posts: 555
    Well I hope everything's a go for the Spring and Summer tours of this band. And that alot of people go and get to go. I wish you all well- and hope to see you there. 
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    Why the fuck are you posting this stuff here? Wtf. You can copy and paste, great. 
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    THEBIBLEISTEN said:
    Why the fuck are you posting this stuff here? Wtf. You can copy and paste, great. 
    I think people feel better sharing,  ... isn't that what a forum is for? 
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    given2fly23 said:
    Do people understand how fucked this is?  Our federal government isn't allowing people to be tested because that gasbag wants to keep the US numbers low so the market doesnt tank and threaten his re-election!
     
    That's a bit disturbing...
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    myoung321 said:
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    I think people feel better sharing,  ... isn't that what a forum is for? 
    A rock forum. I think some people have too much time on their hands. 
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    You've been a member here long enough to know it's more than a typical "rock forum".. many members like yourself have been here for many many years. Many know each other from shows, pre-shows, trading posters, tickets, ..etc.etc.. In communities people talk  ::shrug:: 
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    edited March 2020
    I work for a major healthcare provider in Southern California, and the admin office has been buzzing like crazy this week in preparing for the further spread of COVID-19. It seems to kill the very elderly and those with other serious illnesses, but younger people recover, in time. However, with that said, I'm not paranoid, but I'm being pro-active in how I interact with those in the public.

    I'm going to show #2 in LA at the LA Forum, and I was previously irked that I didn't get general admission tickets. Now, I'm glad I don't, just a little peace of mind. But, I'm going to Coachella in April...

    I'm also planning to fly to London for the Hyde Park show and barring massive flight cancellations and a huge outbreak in London, my ass is going to see PJ in London too.

    Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands! Masks only do so much because as per that email from a nurse posted earlier in this thread who treated a Covid-19 patient, had all the protective gear, but still got infected and is now in quarantine. The CDC is dicking her around in getting the test that will confirm she has it because their lame excuse is that she couldn't possibly be infected because she wore the protocol protective gear. WTF? The mismanagement of Coronavirus by this inept and corrupt administration is astonishing. 

    With that all said, I think if you have a strong immune system, and are under 70 and healthy if you catch it, and with medical care and quarantine, you'll recover. 

    I'm not a medical professional, but I work in an administrative position at a Fortune 100 health provider and I'm part of an active group that is trying to help inform our members and the general public about Covid-19. As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to rock out at both my upcoming PJ shows!
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    ^You sound like the type of person to type shit on the internet with no real knowledge just to seem important. 
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    mattsavard said:
    https://mailchi.mp/esicm/the-future-of-haemodynamic-monitoring-first-webinar-of-the-year-1009715

    From Italy "10% of Cases requiring ICU / Ventilators due to hypoxic respiratory failure"


    "We have seen a very high number of ICU admissions, almost entirely due to severe hypoxic respiratory failure requiring mechanical ventilation.
     
    The surge can be important during an outbreak and cluster containment has to be in place to slow down virus transmission.
     
    We are seeing a high percentage of positive cases being admitted to our Intensive Care Units, in the range of 10% of all positive patients.
     
    We wish to convey a strong message: Get ready!"


    Sadly we are royally screwing up cluster containment via CDC/Testing failures..... and we don't have a fraction of the needed ICU/Ventilators available to accommodate anything near 10% of cases coming down the pipleline.  :( 


    #justaflubro 
    For what it’s worth, I thought I would attach another link that sheds light on the recovery from the illness as well.

    To be clear, I’m not sure how I feel any more about the illness. Two weeks ago I was pretty cavalier in my response, now, I’m a little more nervous. I leave for a work convention Sunday in Las Vegas, which is still a go per an email I received tonight. The following week I I am leaving for Toronto. I also have tickets to Ottawa, Quebec City, OKC, both LA’s and Oakland’s.

    No longer sure if I’ll be going to all, or any. 

    I am not posting this to be disagreeable, but I think it’s important to note that many are recovering with little, to no, need for medical care.  I feel awful for the people suffering, and don’t mean to minimize or trivialize it, I’m just not certain (Nor is anyone else,) of all of the details surrounding this new disease yet, and am doing my best to seek out both sides of the story when I am able. 

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/amid-growing-coronavirus-cases-
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    Daughter is flying out to Boston and then NYC afterwards.  Gave that girl an N95 mask for the airports/plane rides.  Not a fun time period to travel.  Everyone just wants their family to stay healthy. 
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    edited March 2020
    jeremyjmcb said:
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    For what it’s worth, I thought I would attach another link that sheds light on the recovery from the illness as well.

    To be clear, I’m not sure how I feel any more about the illness. Two weeks ago I was pretty cavalier in my response, now, I’m a little more nervous. I leave for a work convention Sunday in Las Vegas, which is still a go per an email I received tonight. The following week I I am leaving for Toronto. I also have tickets to Ottawa, Quebec City, OKC, both LA’s and Oakland’s.

    No longer sure if I’ll be going to all, or any. 

    I am not posting this to be disagreeable, but I think it’s important to note that many are recovering with little, to no, need for medical care.  I feel awful for the people suffering, and don’t mean to minimize or trivialize it, I’m just not certain (Nor is anyone else,) of all of the details surrounding this new disease yet, and am doing my best to seek out both sides of the story when I am able. 

    https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/amid-growing-coronavirus-cases-
    Good post and had read that.

    When things are good, it's absolutely primarily just the elderly who tend to succumb to this. By good, I mean the healthcare system is operating at or under capacity, and thus patient standard of care is optimal. When you have 10 patients and 12 ventilators, most will recover. 

    As someone with 70yo parents and a mother with diminished lung function, the elderly struggling gives me no comfort. 

    The concern is when cases spike, and hospitals are pushed beyond capacity. We only have so many ICU beds, and only so many ventilators. These are not cheap machines that we can just whip up. When you have 50 patients and only 12 ventilators, lots are going to die. Period. 

    Something like 25% of S Korean deaths were patients waiting for ICU beds or ventilators, and they have far more per capita than us. The biggest driver behind chinas much improved recovery rates is they are now back under capacity. 

    Bottom line, this won't be a big deal, until it is. If we reach a point where hospitals are saturated we will see fatalities among younger folks begin to climb (and they're currently ~90% capacity already, on average nationally, due to the flu season). 

    I say this in the context of possibly keeping an eye on those numbers when making your decision to go to shows. If tests are plentiful, and beds are too... it's easier to roll the dice and increase risk of getting infected by going to a show. If hospitals are getting overwhelmed, the risk/reward variables start shifting in the wrong direction for anyone paying attention to reality. 

    Not fun shit to talk about, but is relevant to fans deciding to attend shows or not. 

    Me, as of now I'm still flying to ottawa in 2 weeks :) 
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  • Virginia Posts: 14
    I am not sure why we are trying to prove our knowledge about this virus and/or the flu....how brave we are...if we could get sick...how it transmits etc...the fact of the matter is this...I am lucky to have gotten MSG tix....my job informed us today that if we travel to an area with confirmed cases that we are not allowed to return to work for 14 days upon returning. Sure, can I ignore that request? How would my company know? It isn’t even about that...I work in healthcare...what would I do if I returned and caused an outbreak in my facility? Over my favorite band, in the 1 venue that I finally get to see them? I am hopeful they postpone the early dates until this is under control.
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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12314491

    Well after a thoroughly enjoyable last weekend in Auckland this one won't be so lively, especially as I take care of my 68 year old mother who has an auto immune disease among other things. A lot of wiping...
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    JV33409 said:
    I am not sure why we are trying to prove our knowledge about this virus and/or the flu....how brave we are...if we could get sick...how it transmits etc...the fact of the matter is this...I am lucky to have gotten MSG tix....my job informed us today that if we travel to an area with confirmed cases that we are not allowed to return to work for 14 days upon returning. Sure, can I ignore that request? How would my company know? It isn’t even about that...I work in healthcare...what would I do if I returned and caused an outbreak in my facility? Over my favorite band, in the 1 venue that I finally get to see them? I am hopeful they postpone the early dates until this is under control.

    Damn man... that's a serious conundrum. Where do you live if you don't mind? 

    For me it's not trying to prove knowledge of anything. I saw things about this virus In the news very early on that indicated it was different, and even with all the issues it's caused in a short time some folks aren't taking it seriously enough. 

    I also saw risk to this tour early on... I have the best string of tickets I've had in nearly 30 years of being a fan. I am beyond amped for these shows (like many of us), but I was worried about how this virus would impact the tour, and wanted to discuss planning, ideas on how to prepare, etc. initially I was mocked by ignorant folks but thankfully more folks are taking it seriously now. 

    I Really hope you get to see them at MSG. I'm jealous as hell... definitely a bucket list show for me. I'm also glad you understand the responsibility we each have to try to take actions to avoid contributing to the spread of this disease. Thank you for working in healthcare... take care of yourself. Cheers
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    I am driving from NJ to Ottawa solo. I will be sitting in reserved seats close to the stage so hopefully that will keep my risk down. I purchased theater tickets in the back row for the Atmos Gigaton experience and am driving to MSG and sitting in nosebleed reserved seats. I think I will be OK.  
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    whitepants said:
    I work for a major healthcare provider in Southern California, and the admin office has been buzzing like crazy this week in preparing for the further spread of COVID-19. It seems to kill the very elderly and those with other serious illnesses, but younger people recover, in time. However, with that said, I'm not paranoid, but I'm being pro-active in how I interact with those in the public.

    I'm going to show #2 in LA at the LA Forum, and I was previously irked that I didn't get general admission tickets. Now, I'm glad I don't, just a little peace of mind. But, I'm going to Coachella in April...

    I'm also planning to fly to London for the Hyde Park show and barring massive flight cancellations and a huge outbreak in London, my ass is going to see PJ in London too.

    Wash your hands, wash your hands, wash your hands! Masks only do so much because as per that email from a nurse posted earlier in this thread who treated a Covid-19 patient, had all the protective gear, but still got infected and is now in quarantine. The CDC is dicking her around in getting the test that will confirm she has it because their lame excuse is that she couldn't possibly be infected because she wore the protocol protective gear. WTF? The mismanagement of Coronavirus by this inept and corrupt administration is astonishing. 

    With that all said, I think if you have a strong immune system, and are under 70 and healthy if you catch it, and with medical care and quarantine, you'll recover. 

    I'm not a medical professional, but I work in an administrative position at a Fortune 100 health provider and I'm part of an active group that is trying to help inform our members and the general public about Covid-19. As far as I'm concerned, I'm going to rock out at both my upcoming PJ shows!
    You think Coachella is still going to happen?  I have tickets to both weekends plus PJ show LA #1.  Didn't seem all too convincing with that press conference yesterday, seems like the city wants Goldenvoice to make a decision either way.
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    Still looking for 1 MSG if anybody backs out and is worried about the virus (I really hope show goes on)
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    edited March 2020
    I’m expecting at least one of the artists to work a facemask into a poster
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