Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

PJNB said:

DavidD said:

I’ve been shut out before and it sucks. But like 100 pacer said, tickets will pop up. you just need to be on the ball and checking the forum for extras. I don’t see 10c doing much at this point but who knows It’s always worth a shot. 

Good luck, I’m sure you’ll get in. 

The thing is though the forum will be different this time around with the face to fan set up. Before we could sell and meet up at the venue. Now sales will go into a pot and someone random is going to be buying it. 

Yeah that’s right, forgot about that. I heard that even people not apart of the fan club can score these seats. That’s really shitty if an 10c member gets shut out and some random joe gets fan club seats.

I think the 99% in the screenshot refers to the odds at the time they put the request in. Those shows had lower odds by the end (for GA definitely, not sure about reserved).

kristophed said:

Shit I messed up.

I added Hamilton after I sent in the Toronto request. Didn't realize I had to select Toronto again when I submitted the Hamilton show.

Bummer - sorry to hear.  Go for the Fan Exchange!

Get_Right said:

Lostpawn said:

Get_Right said:

Lostpawn said:

Get_Right said:

The odds are BS and demand for this tour will be higher than ever. Demand exceeds supply which means that some people will not get tickets. That is all, there is your explanation.

That WOULD make sense... if TOR weren't his 1st choice, and others got in with TOR as their 3rd choice.  So no, it's not an odds issue.

LOTTERY - a process whose success or outcome is governed by chance. Sometimes your name is called, sometimes it is not. It is not complicated.

So you are suggesting the the priority that you put on your request is meaningless?  That's the only way your idea of "he just didn't picked" would make any sense at all.  I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here.

I am suggesting that when they stuck their hand in the bag to pull out a name, his was not pulled.  Nobody really knows the process. Its a crapshoot and always has been. Pontificating the why is a waste of time.  

I get that and you really do never know but why are you ignoring how the system is supposed to work? Priority is priority and we choose some shows ahead of others for a reason. There is no way a 3rd pick for TO should win and a 1st pick loses. That is a broken system and should be fixed. 

PB11041 said:

Okay, just spit balling and also having a total panic attack.

What if, as a user you click on GA, then clicked on Reserved, which did trigger the BEST AVAILABLE, and in Ticketmasters system that assumed the choice to be only GA, ie it really was not a best available selection in their system, it just followed your first selection.

I can't fucking imagine they did not think that through, but it seems like the only plausible explanation to someone who HAD best available but essentially did it by selecting both the radio buttons vs just hitting the BA slider.

Which is almost certainly what I did which makes me sick to my stomach that I am going to lose.

No. They aren’t tracking your individual clicks. Take a breath.

Get_Right said:

Lostpawn said:

Get_Right said:

The odds are BS and demand for this tour will be higher than ever. Demand exceeds supply which means that some people will not get tickets. That is all, there is your explanation.

That WOULD make sense... if TOR weren't his 1st choice, and others got in with TOR as their 3rd choice.  So no, it's not an odds issue.

LOTTERY - a process whose success or outcome is governed by chance. Sometimes your name is called, sometimes it is not. It is not complicated.

Correct. Other unknown factors:

How many tickets per venue were actually allocated to the 10club.  Were identical amounts allocated for each venue? Were more tickets secured for some venues and less at others? 

How were the ticket odds actually calculated? How often were the odds being updated? Was there a large last minute submittal of ticket requests that would have caused the actual odds to be off at the moment of the draw and the site was not updated? How were submissions of “best available” classified in the odds, or were they even included in the odds calculation?

How were the ticket draws actually done? Let’s say there were 5,000 tickets per venue available. And they put 3000 tickets in the “first priority” draw. Those who had first priority, but not selected got bumped into “second priority” draw with 1000 tickets with all the people who had made that selection, and so on?

No one here actually knows how the draw went. No where in any communication was there language that everyone would be guaranteed tickets if the odds showed 99%. If someone really sleuthed around the ticket site they’d probably find language stating that the reflected odds may not be accurate or considered accurate.

sometimes people get lucky, sometimes things suck.

JBob87 said:

I think it’s becoming more clear that the straightforward 10c lottery we all know and love has been replaced by some sort of TM fuckery...exactly what level of fuckery still remains to be seen

Remains to be seen.  We’ve had all these same complaints before when ten club was running the lottery. Check some of the past posts from other tours.  All of these issues have occurred in the past.