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The Democratic Presidential Debates

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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    I think it is wise to choose a fresh unknown VP pick rather than choose someone your opponent already has a huge dossier on.  
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095

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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    ^^^Doesn’t that guy wind up suffering a heart attack? 

    Oh, wait a minute....
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    mcgruff10mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 27,883
    Boom! Hillary disses Bernie in Howard Stern interview.  
    https://apple.news/AjIYVfULLTM-cojaMG7a9vA
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    "I'm sorry that Hillary Clinton is rerunning 2016," Sanders said in an interview with Iowa Press that aired Sunday. "I could take out a letter from Hillary Clinton saying, 'Thank you Bernie for working so hard to try to make me the President of the United States.' "

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    mcgruff10 said:
    Boom! Hillary disses Bernie in Howard Stern interview.  
    https://apple.news/AjIYVfULLTM-cojaMG7a9vA
    This was pathetic, as usual with Hillary. Maybe he would have endorsed her sooner if the entire DNC wasn't in Hillary's pocket conspiring to make her the nominee. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
    I thought that was a fantastic interview. Wish she would've agreed to it three years ago. Not that it would've made a difference (although you never know because the amount of people that can fit into a football stadium determined the result) but I felt it humanized her in a way that I haven't seen done maybe ever.

    Stern is the best interviewer on the planet.
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    I thought that was a fantastic interview. Wish she would've agreed to it three years ago. Not that it would've made a difference (although you never know because the amount of people that can fit into a football stadium determined the result) but I felt it humanized her in a way that I haven't seen done maybe ever.

    Stern is the best interviewer on the planet.
    There was a time I thought of Stern as nothing more than the guy that hosts "Lord of the Anal Rings" on the E! network. Where the switch flipped for me to realize how great an interviewer he is was an interview with Paul McCartney not long after Linda died. He had Paul talking about the first time he had sex following Linda's passing. I couldn't believe it. Paul was all like "I was thinking to myself during it 'Linda, what do you think of this, babe?'" It was surreal and the type of stuff only Stern could get out of people. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,279
    I thought that was a fantastic interview. Wish she would've agreed to it three years ago. Not that it would've made a difference (although you never know because the amount of people that can fit into a football stadium determined the result) but I felt it humanized her in a way that I haven't seen done maybe ever.

    Stern is the best interviewer on the planet.
    There was a time I thought of Stern as nothing more than the guy that hosts "Lord of the Anal Rings" on the E! network. Where the switch flipped for me to realize how great an interviewer he is was an interview with Paul McCartney not long after Linda died. He had Paul talking about the first time he had sex following Linda's passing. I couldn't believe it. Paul was all like "I was thinking to myself during it 'Linda, what do you think of this, babe?'" It was surreal and the type of stuff only Stern could get out of people. 
    For sure. I didn't even listen to him back in those days. I just watched the E show. The fact that he can get these people to come in and sit for an hour uninterrupted is pretty incredible. I hope this one was the interview where the dam breaks and he gets a lot more interesting celebrities willing to to talk to him. 

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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mcgruff10 said:
    Boom! Hillary disses Bernie in Howard Stern interview.  
    https://apple.news/AjIYVfULLTM-cojaMG7a9vA
    This was pathetic, as usual with Hillary. Maybe he would have endorsed her sooner if the entire DNC wasn't in Hillary's pocket conspiring to make her the nominee. 
    Did the DNC conspire to make 55% of Democrats vote for her in the primaries?  They are awfully powerful.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    So I have no problems with Warren's work as a bk consultant.  But at the same time, this smells rather hypocritical.  I also don't care who Pete consulted while at McKinsey.  At the end of the day, if you work for a consulting company, you're going to consult the people that your management team tells you to consult.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-elizabeth-warren-earned-nearly-2-million-consulting-for-corporations-and-financial-firms-records-show/2019/12/08/e8f56638-1a18-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html
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    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Boom! Hillary disses Bernie in Howard Stern interview.  
    https://apple.news/AjIYVfULLTM-cojaMG7a9vA
    This was pathetic, as usual with Hillary. Maybe he would have endorsed her sooner if the entire DNC wasn't in Hillary's pocket conspiring to make her the nominee. 
    Did the DNC conspire to make 55% of Democrats vote for her in the primaries?  They are awfully powerful.  
    Nah they conspired to make 100% of democrats vote for her, but came up 45% short lol


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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,776
    mcgruff10 said:
    Boom! Hillary disses Bernie in Howard Stern interview.  
    https://apple.news/AjIYVfULLTM-cojaMG7a9vA
    what the fuck is cilliza talking about? did he listen to the same interview I did?

    if what was said is a diss its really mild.

    she stated an. opinion.  one, its reasonable to believe that it did hurt her to an extent by delaying endorsement  tw she said she was disappointed. three yes she did say she hoped it didnt happen again if another got the nod over bernie. so what. isnt it about defeating doucher in chief?

    4th. Fuck bernie. HE ISNT A DEMOCRAT. Hijacking the apparatus to avoid doing the work. Ran as what you are or stay in your current role. Even in that he doesnt run as what he identifies as.......
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    mrussel1 said:
    So I have no problems with Warren's work as a bk consultant.  But at the same time, this smells rather hypocritical.  I also don't care who Pete consulted while at McKinsey.  At the end of the day, if you work for a consulting company, you're going to consult the people that your management team tells you to consult.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-elizabeth-warren-earned-nearly-2-million-consulting-for-corporations-and-financial-firms-records-show/2019/12/08/e8f56638-1a18-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html
    Not completely true.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mrussel1 said:
    So I have no problems with Warren's work as a bk consultant.  But at the same time, this smells rather hypocritical.  I also don't care who Pete consulted while at McKinsey.  At the end of the day, if you work for a consulting company, you're going to consult the people that your management team tells you to consult.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-elizabeth-warren-earned-nearly-2-million-consulting-for-corporations-and-financial-firms-records-show/2019/12/08/e8f56638-1a18-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html
    Not completely true.
    I'm sure if McK asked you to consult NAMBLA, you could say no.  I'll grant you that.  But by and large, you don't get much of a choice if the request is reasonable.  Consulting Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Amazon, while may be distasteful to some progressives, you could not say no.  Trust me on this one in regards to consulting in the US.  
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,776
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I have no problems with Warren's work as a bk consultant.  But at the same time, this smells rather hypocritical.  I also don't care who Pete consulted while at McKinsey.  At the end of the day, if you work for a consulting company, you're going to consult the people that your management team tells you to consult.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-elizabeth-warren-earned-nearly-2-million-consulting-for-corporations-and-financial-firms-records-show/2019/12/08/e8f56638-1a18-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html
    Not completely true.
    I'm sure if McK asked you to consult NAMBLA, you could say no.  I'll grant you that.  But by and large, you don't get much of a choice if the request is reasonable.  Consulting Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Amazon, while may be distasteful to some progressives, you could not say no.  Trust me on this one in regards to consulting in the US.  
    I would assume there is contract language about this very thing.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    mickeyrat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    So I have no problems with Warren's work as a bk consultant.  But at the same time, this smells rather hypocritical.  I also don't care who Pete consulted while at McKinsey.  At the end of the day, if you work for a consulting company, you're going to consult the people that your management team tells you to consult.  

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-elizabeth-warren-earned-nearly-2-million-consulting-for-corporations-and-financial-firms-records-show/2019/12/08/e8f56638-1a18-11ea-87f7-f2e91143c60d_story.html
    Not completely true.
    I'm sure if McK asked you to consult NAMBLA, you could say no.  I'll grant you that.  But by and large, you don't get much of a choice if the request is reasonable.  Consulting Bank of America, Exxon Mobil, Amazon, while may be distasteful to some progressives, you could not say no.  Trust me on this one in regards to consulting in the US.  
    I would assume there is contract language about this very thing.
    NAMBLA is specifically called out in the contract which I'm working under today.  
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    Interesting.. Pete and Biden at the top in NH.  This whole thing is really unpredictable.  There are so many undecided that it could swing to any of the top four candidates in NH and IA.  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/474139-poll-buttigieg-biden-neck-and-neck-in-new-hampshire
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,298
    Never Baffoon I’ll be voting for who ever gets the nod! 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    Never Baffoon I’ll be voting for who ever gets the nod! 

    I was certain you were gong to vote for the baffoon. 
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,298
    Never Baffoon I’ll be voting for who ever gets the nod! 

    I was certain you were gong to vote for the baffoon. 
    lol I changed my mind 
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
    it's only Tuesday, but smartest thing I read all week : 

    "Buttigeig is what Boomers want Millennials to be; while Sanders is what Millennials want Boomers to be."
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    CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,793
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,114
    CM189191 said:

    Making fun of President Dean are we?

    FWIW Iowa is not exactly a Democratic Whisperer. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    CM189191 said:

    Making fun of President Dean are we?

    FWIW Iowa is not exactly a Democratic Whisperer. 
    Twitter forgot about the yelp and growl that sunk Dean. 
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,938
    CM189191 said:
    it's only Tuesday, but smartest thing I read all week : 

    "Buttigeig is what Boomers want Millennials to be; while Sanders is what Millennials want Boomers to be."
    You think in binary just like Trump does. There are more than two ways to think in the world. I know you really aren’t here looking for opinions, but here’s mine anyways. Sanders would have efforts to get things done be hamstrung at every opportunity, and would divide a country that I honestly don’t know how much more division it can sustain. The desperate and reckless “blow it up and start with a radically different reality from today” is not an approach I or any moderately risk-averse person should ever advocate for. Signed, a millennial who doesn’t much appreciate being told how I feel.
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    ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.

    Tulsi not so much.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    ikiT said:
    I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.

    Tulsi not so much.
    "Hunter's dad"?  What a strange way to name the VP.  And why would they do such a thing?  
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    dankinddankind I am not your foot. Posts: 20,827
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.

    Tulsi not so much.
    "Hunter's dad"?  What a strange way to name the VP.  And why would they do such a thing?  
    Where will Cory Booker, Julian Castro (and Tulsi Gabbard) be tonight? Maybe watching the new Star Wars movie or something?

    Anyway, enjoy your white people (and Yang).
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,631
    dankind said:
    mrussel1 said:
    ikiT said:
    I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.

    Tulsi not so much.
    "Hunter's dad"?  What a strange way to name the VP.  And why would they do such a thing?  
    Where will Cory Booker, Julian Castro (and Tulsi Gabbard) be tonight? Maybe watching the new Star Wars movie or something?

    Anyway, enjoy your white people (and Yang).
    Thanks!  I enjoy people who earn the votes based on the rules established at the beginning.  I don't understand why you hate white people.  That's a really bizarre statement.  
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