The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 Posts: 28,391
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    Fingers crossed. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,082
    edited January 2020
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
  • mrussel1 said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
    2008 as a matter of fact.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    mrussel1 said:
    Prediction: Bernie is not the nominee. He will never win more than a few primaries, if any at all. 
    If he is not, then all hope for Alderaan is gone.
    Didn't that hope end in 1977?
    2008 as a matter of fact.


    That's pretty funny.  
  • Michael Moore Thinks an All-Women Democratic Presidential Ticket Would Win

    https://youtu.be/R2kHVvHbkZQ

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,616
    edited January 2020

    Michael Moore Thinks an All-Women Democratic Presidential Ticket Would Win

    https://youtu.be/R2kHVvHbkZQ


    He was right about predicting Trump would win so who knows! Could be!

    (I'm still going to vote for Yang in the primaries.)
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    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,082
    edited January 2020
    "I don't think Joe Biden is a bad person. I don't think he is an evil person. But I do think if you look back over the course of his career, he has basically been on the wrong side of almost every significant issue in essentially my lifetime. He has bought into these prevailing and often wrong political winds, throughout his career. So whether you talk about him joining up with Reagan to cut budgets and cut taxes, and smearing quote-on-quote Welfare queens which as you know is incredible racist. /.../ [Biden] was not just another vote on mass incarceration, he is a key architect of a devastating system of mass incarceration that we are only now beginning to even start to grapple with. On trade, voted for NAFTA - still to this day supports and believes in the trans pacific trade deal. /.../ And the thing with Joe Biden and Iraq. /.../ Joe Biden was actually an integral part of the buildup to that war. He was the chair of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, he wasn't just another Senator. He was the democrat in the most influential leadership position and he helped facility the case of lies made that got us into war"

    Hear the Bern Episode 40 | Joe Biden's Record (w/ Krystal Ball & Josh Fox)

    https://youtu.be/wRuilBl_w_I


    Bonus:

    https://vimeo.com/340549245

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Joe Rogan Discusses Presidential Candidates with Bari Weiss


    https://youtu.be/F0PT_vQXtZM
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,844
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    I see Joe Rogan is trending because he mentioned on his podcast that he will most likely vote for Bernie. People are losing their shit. calling him a white nationalist/homophobe/transphobe/racist, what the fuck? I've been following him for some time, and while I have agreed with some criticism about him giving platforms to hate groups/people and softballing questions, he's far from what he's being accused of by the far left. it's just incredible. 
    him enabling and giving a plattform for pieces of shit is pretty piece of shittish. 
    I don't see it that way. i get the criticism, but I also think he's just a guy who likes to talk to all people from all walks of life who have all kinds of opinions and experiences. 

    I'm not a fan when he has someone on like that, like ted nugent, and tends to pander to them rather than challenge them, but still, I don't think that makes him a bad person or a vehicle for hate. 
    I've been listening to him for years. His curiosity has definitely led him to have some questionable characters on the show. In a lot of those cases you don't realize how shitty they are until later but it's not like he's going to erase episodes. 

    I've seen a lot of this bluster and you really have to scrutinize it. Some of it is Bernie supporters who I guess think he can win with 700,000 votes from people who agree with them on everything. But a lot of it is supporters of other candidates who are just trying to start shit. Typical bullshit.
    Sounds like a Twitter thing. I think we take it too seriously, most people don't give a shit.
    330 million people are on twitter. if something is trending, I wouldn't dismiss it as not being something people are actually talking about. joe's podcast has millions of subscribers on youtube and millions more that just view it or listen to it. that's something. 
    330 million people on Twitter would mean the entire population of the US has an account. I know it's a global platform,  so not all 330 million people are Americans. But how many if those are bot accounts? Corporations and not people? Hasn't there been a study of that, and the number of actual human beings is way significantly lower? 
    Anecdote Alert:  I've never listened to Joe Rogan once. Ever. Don't have a Twitter account. And I'm way more involved in local politics than the average person. 
    There is a massive difference between the infotainment business and the actual business of getting people elected and enacting legislative change.
    According to Twitter, 79% of accounts are international, ie non-American. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,616

    Joe Rogan Discusses Presidential Candidates with Bari Weiss


    https://youtu.be/F0PT_vQXtZM

    The first minute and a half nails it.  The movement that way will continue to grow as people start becoming more aware of how excellent Yang is as a person and a potential leader.  Watch this grow!
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    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • @mrussel1

    Poll: Bernie Sanders Jumps To Lead Nationally Among Non-White Voters

    https://youtu.be/-JgiBLh9W40


    Time to jump on this train in time before Bernie stops making music videos and skips ticketmaster.

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • “Had she picked Bernie Sanders it would’ve been tougher”

    As he discussed the 2016 election, Trump praised his potential 2020 rival Sen. Bernie Sanders for holding similar trade views to his. And he said he was relieved when Hillary Clinton didn’t name him as her running mate.

    “Had she picked Bernie Sanders it would’ve been tougher. He’s the only one I didn’t want her to pick,” Trump said.

    He then predicted that Sanders would take another shot at the White House.

    “I think he runs. Because he does a lot of television,” he says.

    https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/g5xv7j/you-think-russia-ever-goes-in-and-gets-ukraine-or-no-the-wildest-things-trump-said-at-a-private-2018-dinner-revealed

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,082
    edited January 2020

    Bernie Sanders on the cost of his health plan and Joe Biden

    https://youtu.be/yhwAqSSE8pA



    Haha.

    - You are a self proclaimed socialist...

    - "Democratic". Put it in there please.

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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,082
    edited January 2020
    How can people watch the interview clip above and still live in this self-centric destructive ignorance about healthcare. Weird. How people work. But I guess people also say climate change isn't real in 2020 and that has still almost has to be accepted.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Think Bernie Is ‘Radical’? He Disagrees.

    https://youtu.be/ni-2JRqBgT4

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,742
    edited January 2020
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    edited January 2020
    How can people watch the interview clip above and still live in this self-centric destructive ignorance about healthcare. Weird. How people work. But I guess people also say climate change isn't real in 2020 and that has still almost has to be accepted.
    My guess... because no one is watching the clips you're spamming.

    Regarding you continuing to tag me,  the statement I made was factual at the time I made it. I didn't say Bernie could never win minorities.  Good for Bernie on his surge.  Let's see if he can close the deal.  Not one vote has been cast so chill.  And stop tagging me.  It's annoying.  

  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,520
    brianlux said:

    Joe Rogan Discusses Presidential Candidates with Bari Weiss


    https://youtu.be/F0PT_vQXtZM

    The first minute and a half nails it.  The movement that way will continue to grow as people start becoming more aware of how excellent Yang is as a person and a potential leader.  Watch this grow!

    I like Yang. I wish I lived in a country that would elect him. Obama might be the exception. He brought out the base that other non whites or non white men could do. What a fraking country.

    yangs slogan is priceless. MATH. I sit next to a maga lady at work and have been wanting to put up a pic of Yangs hat. Maybe tomorrow ;-) 
  • mickeyrat said:
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
    Rude behaving like this.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,146
    edited January 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
    Rude behaving like this.
    You run around calling everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. What do you think you're sowing?
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    Why do people give a shit about what Joe Rogan thinks? He's the Fear Factor guy. I don't understand how that douche is somehow considered some kind of political expert now. 
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  • pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
    Rude behaving like this.
    You run around calling everyone who disagrees with you ignorant. What do you think you're sowing?
    do I?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Why do people give a shit about what Joe Rogan thinks? He's the Fear Factor guy. I don't understand how that douche is somehow considered some kind of political expert now. 
    Big podcast. Loooooots of listeners. I guess mostly young men. And they care. 

    The rest don’t. 

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,839
    edited January 2020
    Why do people give a shit about what Joe Rogan thinks? He's the Fear Factor guy. I don't understand how that douche is somehow considered some kind of political expert now. 
    This is the most ignorant, ill-informed bullshit I've ever read. 

    He's the NewsRadio guy. Get it right!

    Joking aside, I don't think people look at him like he's a political expert. Just a guy that has people from both sides on. And for the most part, is unbiased. I'd rather listen to him interview a politician than Hannity or Cuomo. 
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,146
    Why do people give a shit about what Joe Rogan thinks? He's the Fear Factor guy. I don't understand how that douche is somehow considered some kind of political expert now. 
    It's just that he has a massive audience. Same as if Oprah endorsed someone. 
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,742
    mickeyrat said:
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
    Rude behaving like this.
    the truth is rude now?
    Can you vote here in America?
    Sweden doesn't have an issue with white nationalism, both societal and politically?
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    There's no doubt the intent is to take veiled shots at people without naming names.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,082
    edited January 2020
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    this weeks manic choice of candidate is..... until next week when this choice is the vilest and another is the best.


    From someone who CAN'T EVEN VOTE HERE. And should be sharing all they are doing to combat white nationalism in their own fucking country......
    Rude behaving like this.
    the truth is rude now?
    Can you vote here in America?
    Sweden doesn't have an issue with white nationalism, both societal and politically?
    rude complaining like someone who has sålt smöret men tappat pengarna about someone elses right to post or not on the forum. 

    rude in that sense. 

    And also, I can not talk about Sweden in relations to the US (even if I wanted to) because my perception from private messages being sent is that it will get me banned. Even if I don’t see the reason for it. So hit me up on tic toc if you wanna chat about that. 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • brianlux said:

    Joe Rogan Discusses Presidential Candidates with Bari Weiss


    https://youtu.be/F0PT_vQXtZM

    The first minute and a half nails it.  The movement that way will continue to grow as people start becoming more aware of how excellent Yang is as a person and a potential leader.  Watch this grow!

    I like Yang. I wish I lived in a country that would elect him. Obama might be the exception. He brought out the base that other non whites or non white men could do. What a fraking country.

    yangs slogan is priceless. MATH. I sit next to a maga lady at work and have been wanting to put up a pic of Yangs hat. Maybe tomorrow ;-) 
    its priceless. but also ”elitist” and wouldnt work if you want to lure MAGA people over. I would believe. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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