The Democratic Presidential Debates
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brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's."The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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myoung321 said:brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.0
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mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.this is something that irritates me. equating heathcare with insurance.all of the debate around ACA was misspoken in my opinion.hospitals arent checking immigration status before treating a patient in obvious distress.practical and reasonable to me is public option. if everyone in dc is all about consumer choice then move on it. seems like the logical potential transition to M4A anyway.trouble is those fuckers are addicted to industry money._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
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mickeyrat said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.this is something that irritates me. equating heathcare with insurance.all of the debate around ACA was misspoken in my opinion.hospitals arent checking immigration status before treating a patient in obvious distress.practical and reasonable to me is public option. if everyone in dc is all about consumer choice then move on it. seems like the logical potential transition to M4A anyway.trouble is those fuckers are addicted to industry money.
And im hopeful that democratic senators are ready to support the public option. I don't see Biden rolling out something that he knows would be DOA in the Senate, his home turf.0 -
cincybearcat said:brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
1) be anti-abortion (not likely)
2) be pro-gun (I hope not likey)
3) speak about fiscal responsibility (no free everything)
4) have an actual immigration policy that isn’t dumb. But of course most haven’t come close. Ironically GW and Obama weren’t that bad hereOtherwise it doesn’t matterThose would win votes, for sure, Cincy. The smart thing to do would be to1) Down play the abortion issue as much as possible (yes, easier said than done, but stay away fro it as much as possible).2) Same thing with guns. Maybe push for better background checks, no bazookas, etc, but don't take ALL the boys toys away.3) Encourage people to be being smart with their personal finance. Make it a win for them.4) Well said on your take!5) Show them some respect- don't make them they enemy.Another tactic is... join them. I have a relative who for many years has been a very hard working environmental lawyer (and never got rich in that line of that business) who has been a life-long DIE HARD Democrat. He just informed me that he is going to re-register as a Republican because a) that party needs people like him, b) he can vote against Trump in the primaries and c) a few of his friends are Republican AND strongly environmental and he likes the idea of having more environmentally friendly Republicans. Interesting thought!"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
myoung321 said:brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
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mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Ledbetterman10 said:brianlux said:Ledbetterman10 said:mrussel1 said:Ledbetterman10 said:cincybearcat said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:PJ_Soul said:Ledbetterman10 said:Biden sounds like a relic calling weed a "gateway drug." If he insists on being against federal legalization, he should come up with a better reason than a talking point from the mid-1980's.
He's likely just trying to come off less "left" than his opponents. I'm sure moderate Democrats and Trump-hating Republicans could appreciate that. But the bulk of the Democratic electorate that he's going need to win the primary? Not sure how well it'll play with them.
What if a person had a heart attack? Should they be treated? Isn't that healthcare? Stupid questions lead to misunderstanding and inaccurate results, by all the candidates.
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My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.0
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mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.
Since there is a good chance trump gets 4 more years aren't we precariously close to that ?
Watched FOX for a bit yesterday and its non stop "the president did nothing illegal "
Non stop
And if he loses he'll blame the fake impeachment for ruining his campaign and totally legitimately will refuse to leave the white house
Then what?
So I'm not sure how we work together with that crew.0 -
Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.
Since there is a good chance trump gets 4 more years aren't we precariously close to that ?
Watched FOX for a bit yesterday and its non stop "the president did nothing illegal "
Non stop
And if he loses he'll blame the fake impeachment for ruining his campaign and totally legitimately will refuse to leave the white house
Then what?
So I'm not sure how we work together with that crew.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.
Since there is a good chance trump gets 4 more years aren't we precariously close to that ?
Watched FOX for a bit yesterday and its non stop "the president did nothing illegal "
Non stop
And if he loses he'll blame the fake impeachment for ruining his campaign and totally legitimately will refuse to leave the white house
Then what?
So I'm not sure how we work together with that crew.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180 -
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ikiT said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.
Since there is a good chance trump gets 4 more years aren't we precariously close to that ?
Watched FOX for a bit yesterday and its non stop "the president did nothing illegal "
Non stop
And if he loses he'll blame the fake impeachment for ruining his campaign and totally legitimately will refuse to leave the white house
Then what?
So I'm not sure how we work together with that crew.
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mrussel1 said:ikiT said:Lerxst1992 said:mrussel1 said:My lord, I hate when people try to find points of commonality with those they may fundamentally disagree with. Next thing you know, they'll be working together on common sense solutions. Then our Republic will end.
Since there is a good chance trump gets 4 more years aren't we precariously close to that ?
Watched FOX for a bit yesterday and its non stop "the president did nothing illegal "
Non stop
And if he loses he'll blame the fake impeachment for ruining his campaign and totally legitimately will refuse to leave the white house
Then what?
So I'm not sure how we work together with that crew.Bristow 05132010 to Amsterdam 2 061320180
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