I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.
Tulsi not so much.
"Hunter's dad"? What a strange way to name the VP. And why would they do such a thing?
Where will Cory Booker, Julian Castro (and Tulsi Gabbard) be tonight? Maybe watching the new Star Wars movie or something?
Anyway, enjoy your white people (and Yang).
Thanks! I enjoy people who earn the votes based on the rules established at the beginning. I don't understand why you hate white people. That's a really bizarre statement.
More like a really bizarre inference. I don't hate anybody.
And I didn't even have to be raised a Catholic to feel that way.
I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.
Tulsi not so much.
"Hunter's dad"? What a strange way to name the VP. And why would they do such a thing?
Fairness. Better than. Coalition building. Inclusiveness. More ideas. I would.
I almost left him out completely, the VEEP. I'm still creeped out the finger suck. I did leave out Tommy Steyer. He's been so busy inventing (and perfecting) activism over the past 10 years, I don't know how he finds time to even run.
I'd like to see the Mayor and some of those Senators (and Hunter's dad, for that matter) yield some of their collective time to Cory Booker and Julian Castro tonight.
Tulsi not so much.
"Hunter's dad"? What a strange way to name the VP. And why would they do such a thing?
Fairness. Better than. Coalition building. Inclusiveness. More ideas. I would.
I almost left him out completely, the VEEP. I'm still creeped out the finger suck. I did leave out Tommy Steyer. He's been so busy inventing (and perfecting) activism over the past 10 years, I don't know how he finds time to even run.
Got it. So if interviewing for a job, you'd give up some of your time with the hiring manager(s) in order to give the other candidates a better chance, even if you scored better on the tests, did better on the previous interviews etc. I think of those things as polls, fundraising and the other requirements to be on the stage.
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ok. only 7 on the stage tonight. far more manageable but still a couple too many...
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I'm surprised Klobachar is still out there. She has no chance at the nomination but I kinda like her as a possible running-mate for Biden.
I live in MN and I hadn't really heard much of her until she started running. She's growing on me and I think underestimated.
Klobucher - Ilhan 2020!
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I think they trim the field after this to: Pete Warren Biden Bernie
Also get rid of Bernie and bring back Kamala
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I've watched nearly every debate since college. It's a good excuse to make a drink. Tonight I made eggnog. It was delicious.
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Surprisingly few responses here on the Democratic Debate thread regarding the actual Democratic Debate that happened today.
I thought Buttigieg did well as did Andrew Yang. I like those two.
Klobuchar sounded good but she had no cause to dis Buttigeig. She might gain some votes with her name resonating "Clobber" a bit (yes, some voters are that stupid.)
Sanders and Biden waved their canes at each other (I can't remember who came up with that one- funny as hell!- please take credit for it if you read this).
Warren blew it for me by bitching about Pete's fund raising in a wine cave. Why the hell not, Liz? She has a net wroth WAY more than his. Bad move, baby.
Tom Steyer was just plain scary and needs to be in a Steven King movie.
I'm going with Buttigieg, then Yang
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Watched part of the debate. It was interesting to see them go after each other and have the time to do it and respond.
Pete took some hits. Was successful fighting back mostly. Amy is a solid candidate. Makes too much sense though for the Dems to nominate her Joe - dude has the blackest eyes, all pupil. He had some great, human, funny responses to age questions. Solid performance. Warren - she is what I knew she was. Her attack on Pete's wine cave I think will hurt Pete, but his comeback was way more impactful. Bernie - I'm very tired of this man and his blame game. Andrew - solid performance. Not a politician really and it helps. Anyone else? Don't remember them
I do think Andrew brings some good to the debate, but I don't feel he has a shot. I'd prefer he moderate a future debate than participate. I wish Pete and Amy could become 1 candidate, and Warren/Sanders could become 1 candidate. a 3 way race between the Pete/Amy Cyborg, Biden, and the far left cyborg would be interesting.
Watched part of the debate. It was interesting to see them go after each other and have the time to do it and respond.
Pete took some hits. Was successful fighting back mostly. Amy is a solid candidate. Makes too much sense though for the Dems to nominate her Joe - dude has the blackest eyes, all pupil. He had some great, human, funny responses to age questions. Solid performance. Warren - she is what I knew she was. Her attack on Pete's wine cave I think will hurt Pete, but his comeback was way more impactful. Bernie - I'm very tired of this man and his blame game. Andrew - solid performance. Not a politician really and it helps. Anyone else? Don't remember them
I do think Andrew brings some good to the debate, but I don't feel he has a shot. I'd prefer he moderate a future debate than participate. I wish Pete and Amy could become 1 candidate, and Warren/Sanders could become 1 candidate. a 3 way race between the Pete/Amy Cyborg, Biden, and the far left cyborg would be interesting.
This seems to be about right. I am tired of the 'billionaire' attacks by Warren, even though she is definitely a 1%er herself. This was Pete's first night on the hot seat and he seems to have acquitted himself well. He seems to be prepared for all attacks and that speaks well to the way he approaches everything. I like him, and have since the start.
People call Trump "Teflon Don" but you can start applying that to Biden too. His support seems rock solid. He may shed or gain a few points here and there, but his floor is pretty locked down. His ceiling is interesting and we'll know soon.
Also interesting that M4A seems to be DOA. Did Warren even talk about it? I think Bernie did, but it certainly wasn't a focus of the debate like it was when Warren took her shots. She did not do as well with that as Pete.
If she proves to be a Westerberg or Replacements fan, I might be swayed.
AMY KLOBUCHAR SHARED HER PRE-DEBATE MUSIC PLAYLIST
No PJ or Tool, I’m voting Pete then.
Bullpen - Dessa Raspberry Beret - Prince We Take Care of Our Own - Bruce Springsteen Tightrope - Janelle Monáe Love is All Around - Joan Jett Born This Way - Lady Gaga Best Friend - Sofi Tukker Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell Flowers in Your Hair - The Lumineers Closer to Fine - Indigo Girls The Times They Are A Changin' - Bob Dylan Girl from the North Country — Bob Dylan Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley Fast Car - Tracy Chapman Runaway Train — Soul Asylum Hey There Delilah - Plain White T’s Crowded Table - The Highwomen Amie - Pure Prairie League Clouds - Zach Sobiech This Little Light of Mine - The Steeles A Dios Le Pido - Juanes The Room Where It Happens - Hamilton cast Shining - DJ Khalid, Beyoncé Everybody - VV Brown Cut to the Feeling - Carly Rae Jepsen Like a Girl - Lizzo Purple Rain - Prince Somewhere Over the Rainbow - Judy Garland
Girl From The North Country always gives me a sinking, sad feeling in the pit of my stomach every time I listen to it.
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If she proves to be a Westerberg or Replacements fan, I might be swayed.
AMY KLOBUCHAR SHARED HER PRE-DEBATE MUSIC PLAYLIST
No PJ or Tool, I’m voting Pete then.
Bullpen - Dessa Raspberry Beret - Prince We Take Care of Our Own - Bruce Springsteen Tightrope - Janelle Monáe Love is All Around - Joan Jett Born This Way - Lady Gaga Best Friend - Sofi Tukker Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell Flowers in Your Hair - The Lumineers Closer to Fine - Indigo Girls The Times They Are A Changin' - Bob Dylan Girl from the North Country — Bob Dylan Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley Fast Car - Tracy Chapman Runaway Train — Soul Asylum Hey There Delilah - Plain White T’s Crowded Table - The Highwomen Amie - Pure Prairie League Clouds - Zach Sobiech This Little Light of Mine - The Steeles A Dios Le Pido - Juanes The Room Where It Happens - Hamilton cast Shining - DJ Khalid, Beyoncé Everybody - VV Brown Cut to the Feeling - Carly Rae Jepsen Like a Girl - Lizzo Purple Rain - Prince Somewhere Over the Rainbow - Judy Garland
Hmmm, conveniently covers all voter demographics...just saying.
It's a hopeless situation...
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If she proves to be a Westerberg or Replacements fan, I might be swayed.
AMY KLOBUCHAR SHARED HER PRE-DEBATE MUSIC PLAYLIST
No PJ or Tool, I’m voting Pete then.
Bullpen - Dessa Raspberry Beret - Prince We Take Care of Our Own - Bruce Springsteen Tightrope - Janelle Monáe Love is All Around - Joan Jett Born This Way - Lady Gaga Best Friend - Sofi Tukker Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell Flowers in Your Hair - The Lumineers Closer to Fine - Indigo Girls The Times They Are A Changin' - Bob Dylan Girl from the North Country — Bob Dylan Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley Fast Car - Tracy Chapman Runaway Train — Soul Asylum Hey There Delilah - Plain White T’s Crowded Table - The Highwomen Amie - Pure Prairie League Clouds - Zach Sobiech This Little Light of Mine - The Steeles A Dios Le Pido - Juanes The Room Where It Happens - Hamilton cast Shining - DJ Khalid, Beyoncé Everybody - VV Brown Cut to the Feeling - Carly Rae Jepsen Like a Girl - Lizzo Purple Rain - Prince Somewhere Over the Rainbow - Judy Garland
Hmmm, conveniently covers all voter demographics...just saying.
Almost, but there's a distinct lack of puck and NO REPLACEMENTS or DINOSAUR JR! How can I vote for someone who isn't a 'Mats or Dino fan?
Ah, but there is this, to which this one time I must subscribe to:
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And I didn't even have to be raised a Catholic to feel that way.
I almost left him out completely, the VEEP. I'm still creeped out the finger suck.
I did leave out Tommy Steyer. He's been so busy inventing (and perfecting) activism over the past 10 years, I don't know how he finds time to even run.
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I've watched nearly every debate since college. It's a good excuse to make a drink. Tonight I made eggnog. It was delicious.
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If she proves to be a Westerberg or Replacements fan, I might be swayed.
Pete took some hits. Was successful fighting back mostly.
Amy is a solid candidate. Makes too much sense though for the Dems to nominate her
Joe - dude has the blackest eyes, all pupil. He had some great, human, funny responses to age questions. Solid performance.
Warren - she is what I knew she was. Her attack on Pete's wine cave I think will hurt Pete, but his comeback was way more impactful.
Bernie - I'm very tired of this man and his blame game.
Andrew - solid performance. Not a politician really and it helps.
Anyone else? Don't remember them
I do think Andrew brings some good to the debate, but I don't feel he has a shot. I'd prefer he moderate a future debate than participate. I wish Pete and Amy could become 1 candidate, and Warren/Sanders could become 1 candidate. a 3 way race between the Pete/Amy Cyborg, Biden, and the far left cyborg would be interesting.
I like Andrew Yang. He gonna make a great cabinet member OR VP.
People call Trump "Teflon Don" but you can start applying that to Biden too. His support seems rock solid. He may shed or gain a few points here and there, but his floor is pretty locked down. His ceiling is interesting and we'll know soon.
Also interesting that M4A seems to be DOA. Did Warren even talk about it? I think Bernie did, but it certainly wasn't a focus of the debate like it was when Warren took her shots. She did not do as well with that as Pete.
AMY KLOBUCHAR SHARED HER PRE-DEBATE MUSIC PLAYLIST
Bullpen - Dessa
Raspberry Beret - Prince
We Take Care of Our Own - Bruce Springsteen
Tightrope - Janelle Monáe
Love is All Around - Joan Jett
Born This Way - Lady Gaga
Best Friend - Sofi Tukker
Big Yellow Taxi - Joni Mitchell
Flowers in Your Hair - The Lumineers
Closer to Fine - Indigo Girls
The Times They Are A Changin' - Bob Dylan
Girl from the North Country — Bob Dylan
Hallelujah - Jeff Buckley
Fast Car - Tracy Chapman
Runaway Train — Soul Asylum
Hey There Delilah - Plain White T’s
Crowded Table - The Highwomen
Amie - Pure Prairie League
Clouds - Zach Sobiech
This Little Light of Mine - The Steeles
A Dios Le Pido - Juanes
The Room Where It Happens - Hamilton cast
Shining - DJ Khalid, Beyoncé
Everybody - VV Brown
Cut to the Feeling - Carly Rae Jepsen
Like a Girl - Lizzo
Purple Rain - Prince
Somewhere Over the Rainbow - Judy Garland
ok, made my decision much easier
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-pete-buttigieg-president-music-phish-20190419-story.html
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Yep!