Tool

nicknyr15 said:

pjl44 said:

nicknyr15 said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mr bungle said:

nicknyr15 said:

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

yeah, they are essentially working as a in-house scalping company based on supply and demand.  "prices may fluctuate based on demand"

Seriously, how it is legal is beyond me. I really really wish some leaders would do something about it. Some legislation against this is badly needed, in Canada and the US.

Concert tickets are luxury items and promoters/bands should be able to charge whatever and however the market bears. I don't like paying $400 for a ticket either so I don't go to many high profile arena shows. If you live near an arena, there is no shortage of $20-50 club shows in your area.

This is all nonsense to me. A luxury item? No. And to only be able to see less popular bands is a non argument. It’s all bullshit to me 

I'm sorry you feel entitled to name your own price for an arena rock concert

Gtfoh. Entitled? You think it’s ok to create fake hype for a show, then slowly release tickets that were held back on purpose for double the price? Or how about when that backfires for some concerts? People buy tickets as soon as they go on sale. Concert doesn’t sell too well then people pay half for the same seats. It’s wrong and a shady practice either way. 

nicknyr15 said:

pjl44 said:

nicknyr15 said:

pjl44 said:

nicknyr15 said:

pjl44 said:

PJ_Soul said:

mr bungle said:

nicknyr15 said:

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

yeah, they are essentially working as a in-house scalping company based on supply and demand.  "prices may fluctuate based on demand"

Seriously, how it is legal is beyond me. I really really wish some leaders would do something about it. Some legislation against this is badly needed, in Canada and the US.

Concert tickets are luxury items and promoters/bands should be able to charge whatever and however the market bears. I don't like paying $400 for a ticket either so I don't go to many high profile arena shows. If you live near an arena, there is no shortage of $20-50 club shows in your area.

This is all nonsense to me. A luxury item? No. And to only be able to see less popular bands is a non argument. It’s all bullshit to me 

I'm sorry you feel entitled to name your own price for an arena rock concert

Gtfoh. Entitled? You think it’s ok to create fake hype for a show, then slowly release tickets that were held back on purpose for double the price? Or how about when that backfires for some concerts? People buy tickets as soon as they go on sale. Concert doesn’t sell too well then people pay half for the same seats. It’s wrong and a shady practice either way. 

What you described is 80% of what's happening when you book an airline ticket or hotel room.

I know. But at least I have options with hotels and airlines. There’s no option with TM. So I still don’t get your point. 

PJNB said:

pjl44 said:

For what it's worth, and to try to steer things back on topic, I sat out the Tool onsale entirely and will grab tickets closer to the show.

Tools and Ticketmaster public sale was the best that I have ever seen. If they are going that route for Pearl Jam next year I am thinking of passing on 10 club tickets since my number is so high for shows that I am not doing GA and going with the public sale. 

pjl44 said:

tempo_n_groove said:

Merkin Baller said:

I like the idea of tiered pricing right out the gate when the tickets go on sale. Case in point, I paid about $200 for a pair of 14th row center seats to see Vampire Weekend next spring (this was through the LiveNation mobile app presale). My buddy paid about $20 or so less per ticket to sit 12 rows behind us. (It was 140 or so for the 1st three rows IIRC) I could have easily got tickets for less than $130 / pair for that show, we just would have been a lot further back from the stage. That's the way to go as far as I'm concerned.

Guns & Roses also got creative with the ticket pricing when they announced their reunion tour a couple of years ago. I'm all for new ideas to take scalpers out of the equation. If the marked up tickets don't sell, they can always put them back out at a lower price.

At least if the seats are tiered from the get-go, scalpers will likely get phased out of the more expensive seats as their potential for markup will be limited. Like @PJ44 suggested, at least the money is going to whomever is actually putting on the show as opposed to some scumbag on the other side of the country.

My issue with the platinum seats is this: what's to keep Ticketmaster from holding back X amount of tickets for shows they know will sell out quickly, and then rebranding them as platinum a month later at a 250% markup?

I'm all for taking the scalpers out of the game, and would rather see the money go to the artists / venue etc, but this platinum ticket thing is shady AF.

Tiered tickets to me equals a caste system.

Only if you have money can you be up close to the band!!!!

Get the F outta here.

Oh and the tix labeled as "platinum" are held back by TM and sold for maximum profit.  That's how they do shit.

That "caste system" is the natural order. The internet and then smartphones opened the floodgates. The horse is out of the barn. So now it's just a matter of how much bands, sports teams, etc. want to control it or capitalize on it. Pearl Jam is clearly on the extreme fan friendly end of that spectrum. 

dudeman said:

PJNB said:

pjl44 said:

For what it's worth, and to try to steer things back on topic, I sat out the Tool onsale entirely and will grab tickets closer to the show.

Tools and Ticketmaster public sale was the best that I have ever seen. If they are going that route for Pearl Jam next year I am thinking of passing on 10 club tickets since my number is so high for shows that I am not doing GA and going with the public sale. 

I think you may have had a very different experience than a whole lot of other people. 

dudeman said:

PJNB said:

dudeman said:

PJNB said:

pjl44 said:

For what it's worth, and to try to steer things back on topic, I sat out the Tool onsale entirely and will grab tickets closer to the show.

Tools and Ticketmaster public sale was the best that I have ever seen. If they are going that route for Pearl Jam next year I am thinking of passing on 10 club tickets since my number is so high for shows that I am not doing GA and going with the public sale. 

I think you may have had a very different experience than a whole lot of other people. 

People had issues with Ticketmaster? I know some had issues selecting seats and then they were not available since someone selected them right before they did but aside from that what was the issue? I was able to get tickets for Boston with ease and even went in 10 minutes later to see what else was there and was still able to pull tickets. This system beats the hell out of the bots cleaning up seconds after the drop. 

Maybe it depends on the show or the venue. I only tried for Detroit. The main issue for me was like you said. I'd select a pair of tickets then it would say someone else beat me to them. That happened to me for about an hour, over and over again. I was logged on before the sale and was already behind over 2,000 other fans at 10:00 am. That is all OK with me even though it's frustrating. 

What I have an issue with is that minutes later, those same tickets that "another fan" beat me to are miraculously available again but now they cost 5-10 times what they cost minutes before. 

Whether it's TM themselves or other people buying tickets and then immediately selling them again for massively increased prices sucks. There is no added value to these tickets, it's just that someone shoved their way into the position of middleman. 

It's the "Verified Resale" system that allows that to happen. 

PJNB said:

dudeman said:

PJNB said:

dudeman said:

PJNB said:

pjl44 said:

For what it's worth, and to try to steer things back on topic, I sat out the Tool onsale entirely and will grab tickets closer to the show.

Tools and Ticketmaster public sale was the best that I have ever seen. If they are going that route for Pearl Jam next year I am thinking of passing on 10 club tickets since my number is so high for shows that I am not doing GA and going with the public sale. 

I think you may have had a very different experience than a whole lot of other people. 

People had issues with Ticketmaster? I know some had issues selecting seats and then they were not available since someone selected them right before they did but aside from that what was the issue? I was able to get tickets for Boston with ease and even went in 10 minutes later to see what else was there and was still able to pull tickets. This system beats the hell out of the bots cleaning up seconds after the drop. 

Maybe it depends on the show or the venue. I only tried for Detroit. The main issue for me was like you said. I'd select a pair of tickets then it would say someone else beat me to them. That happened to me for about an hour, over and over again. I was logged on before the sale and was already behind over 2,000 other fans at 10:00 am. That is all OK with me even though it's frustrating. 

What I have an issue with is that minutes later, those same tickets that "another fan" beat me to are miraculously available again but now they cost 5-10 times what they cost minutes before. 

Whether it's TM themselves or other people buying tickets and then immediately selling them again for massively increased prices sucks. There is no added value to these tickets, it's just that someone shoved their way into the position of middleman. 

It's the "Verified Resale" system that allows that to happen. 

Hard to go against any of that. Did you end up getting any tickets? I am sure you tried everything since you were going at it for an hour but I had the same issue until I went for middle of the pack tickets and not the best I could see and got them right away.