Tool

Awesome. Sometimes coming back with fresh ears helps.
I just didn't want to get exhausted from the album which is why I gave it a rest.
I listened to King Crimson for a week instead!

Jason P said:

I think I'm liking this more then I did the last two albums ...

Same here.

Thoughts_Arrive said:

Jason P said:

I think I'm liking this more then I did the last two albums ...

Same here.

Me too.

23scidoo said:

Invincible is my thing..

yeah this one I am really loving now after not really loving it at first.
Warrior, struggling, to remain, consequential 

Has anyone caught an update on the second run of Fear Inoculum? The link on page 51 of this thread said they would ship at the end of September. Did anyone here order this?

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

mr bungle said:

nicknyr15 said:

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

yeah, they are essentially working as a in-house scalping company based on supply and demand.  "prices may fluctuate based on demand"

Some Boston tickets also popped up this week, balcony seats, priced @ $225 or so, tickets that were 75 or so during the regular sale.

What a racket.

nicknyr15 said:

I just honestly don’t understand how that’s legal. I, as a small business owner, would be fined by consumer affairs if I charged people different prices for the same item. 

Airlines and hotels charge difference prices for the same item. Car rentals and baseball cards too.

The reality is that technology has brought us to a point where you can see the true market value for individual shows. I'd rather see that money go into the pockets of the people putting on the event than scalpers. Nowadays if someone wants to pay 400 bucks for that seat, they can. It's just a matter of who gets the money.

Instead of complaining about this system, exploit it. I get tickets to concerts and baseball games well below face value all the time. You have to be willing to wait until last minute and accept either overpaying or not going about 20% of the time. But way more often than not, I get a deal.

PJ_Soul said:

mr bungle said:

nicknyr15 said:

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

yeah, they are essentially working as a in-house scalping company based on supply and demand.  "prices may fluctuate based on demand"

Seriously, how it is legal is beyond me. I really really wish some leaders would do something about it. Some legislation against this is badly needed, in Canada and the US.

Concert tickets are luxury items and promoters/bands should be able to charge whatever and however the market bears. I don't like paying $400 for a ticket either so I don't go to many high profile arena shows. If you live near an arena, there is no shortage of $20-50 club shows in your area.

PJ_Soul said:

mr bungle said:

nicknyr15 said:

Miraculously more tickets popped up for Barclays. You know , “the platinum” ones. Over $400 face value. I can’t believe TM is allowed to openly price gouge and it’s legal 

yeah, they are essentially working as a in-house scalping company based on supply and demand.  "prices may fluctuate based on demand"

Seriously, how it is legal is beyond me. I really really wish some leaders would do something about it. Some legislation against this is badly needed, in Canada and the US.

There is legislation in the works in both NY state and at least discussed on a national level for the US. The problem is that with the internet, you can buy tickets from anywhere and sell them even if you had no way of actually going to the show itself which makes it hard to enforce. I know people were upset about the amount of information they had to give out for QOTSA tickets on the Villains tour but that seemed to work really well. Sometimes you get lucky with scalpers though. Wound up with a great set of seats for a show a couple months ago for about a third of the face value because it was a few hours before the show and the scalper was in the "I need to recover a little so it's not a total loss" mode.