Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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  • FR181798
    FR181798 Posts: 2,166
    Vanilla Coke is marginally better than Coke Zero Peach but not even in the same league as Cherry Coke.
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,491
    FR181798 said:
    Vanilla Coke is marginally better than Coke Zero Peach but not even in the same league as Cherry Coke.
    I definitely prefer canned Cherry over canned Vanilla.  But a real vanilla Coke, soda shop style, is tough to beat.
  • Spartanacus
    Spartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 940
    I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,592
    I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.
    it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,986
    Free at last... Thank God almighty we are free at last. 
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    on2legs said:
    JimmyV said:
    I thought the AG complaint was a bridge too far when we first heard about it. But I won't lie, I'm glad it actually forced Tim Bierman to comment on the issue.
    I just want to know if the AG’s investigation ends with no arrests does that mean we won’t see anymore posts from all the legal scholars here declaring “breach of contract” and “fraud”?
    Breach of contract is a civil claim.  Fraud can be either civil or criminal.  No one would be arrested as a result of civil claims of breach of contract or fraud.  Perhaps you shouldn't be casting aspersions on purported legal scholars until you understand these basic facts.

    At the moment, there is a prima facie case for breach of contract under general principles of law.  (Caveat: I have no knowledge of Washington state law, which could have its own wrinkles.  I'm not even sure that the contract is governed under Washington state law.)  It's a completely separate question whether someone would find it worthwhile to spend the time and money necessary to bring a civil lawsuit in an attempt to either force performance of the contract or to recover money damages for his or her losses.  The only way it would possibly make sense from a lawyer's perspective is as a class action on behalf of all analog members of the Ten Club.
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  • cutz
    cutz Posts: 12,269
    PB11041 said:
    I hope we never get the singles so this thread can go on until I die.
    HAHAHA
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,986
    BF25394 said:
    on2legs said:
    JimmyV said:
    I thought the AG complaint was a bridge too far when we first heard about it. But I won't lie, I'm glad it actually forced Tim Bierman to comment on the issue.
    I just want to know if the AG’s investigation ends with no arrests does that mean we won’t see anymore posts from all the legal scholars here declaring “breach of contract” and “fraud”?
    Breach of contract is a civil claim.  Fraud can be either civil or criminal.  No one would be arrested as a result of civil claims of breach of contract or fraud.  Perhaps you shouldn't be casting aspersions on purported legal scholars until you understand these basic facts.

    At the moment, there is a prima facie case for breach of contract under general principles of law.  (Caveat: I have no knowledge of Washington state law, which could have its own wrinkles.  I'm not even sure that the contract is governed under Washington state law.)  It's a completely separate question whether someone would find it worthwhile to spend the time and money necessary to bring a civil lawsuit in an attempt to either force performance of the contract or to recover money damages for his or her losses.  The only way it would possibly make sense from a lawyer's perspective is as a class action on behalf of all analog members of the Ten Club.
    Let it go and join the celebration!  The singles are on their way!
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjl44 said:
    If there's any question why the Ten Club has publicly expressed contempt toward a segment of their fanbase, look at how people will line up behind a person who feels it's appropriate to get the state AG's office involved over a pair of $10 records
    It's a pair of $10 records owed to thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of consumers.  It's exactly the kind of thing that consumer protection agencies in government are set up to police.  It is also exactly the kind of thing that many successful class action lawsuits have been waged over.
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  • Enzed
    Enzed NZ Posts: 563
    back on topic, what's coffee like in Hawaii?
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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    pjl44 said:
    The Ten Club has brought me a great deal of joy over the years. It bugs me to see a "fan" try to use the state AG's office to some end over 2 unfulfilled records. Request a refund, cancel your membership, or stop spending money? That strikes me as an appropriate consumer response to a business with a long delay in shipping $20 of goods. But we all understand why few people (if anyone) go that route. It also bugs me that other "fans" either see that as appropriate or at least won't call it out. If my neighbor blows leaves into my yard, I don't throw a rock through his window.
    Do you have information that the individual who filed this complaint did not request a refund?

    Do you understand how easy it is to file a complaint with the Washington AG's office?  It's a form you submit on the Internet.  It can take less than five minutes.  It is not a violent act like throwing a rock through a window.  A better analogy would be that your neighbor keeps blowing leaves into your yard, you ask him to please stop blowing leaves into your yard, he ignores you, you ask again and again, he continues to blow leaves into your yard and ignore you, and you reluctantly file a complaint.  No rock-throwing involved-- not to mention the fact that you didn't pay your neighbor financial consideration for the right not to have leaves blown into your yard.

    It is entirely appropriate to register a complaint with a consumer regulator when a business has been engaging in bad business practices.  I don't understand why you see this as beyond the pale.  Ten Club is a business.

    There is an incredible irony in you being so offended that someone would have the audacity to bring a consumer complaint claiming that a band has failed to deliver a promised benefit that he paid for (along with likely tens of thousands of other people), when the band in question famously made a huge stink about Ticketmaster imposing unjustified fees on ticket purchases, and did so on behalf of consumers (i.e., their fans and music fans in general).  This guy submitted a form on the Internet to register a complaint and succeeded in getting a long-overdue response.  Pearl Jam members gave testimony before the U.S. Congress.  If they don't support this guy's right to complain, they have a lot of explaining to do.


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  • It was you wasn't it?

  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,940
    It was you wasn't it?

    The guy who brought the complaint already identified himself.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    Identified himself and shared Bierman's response. 
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  • FR181798 said:
    demetrios said:

    2017 & 2018 MEMBER BENEFIT UPDATE

    NEWS SEPTEMBER 10 2019

    The 2017 & 2018 Ten Club Singles and Deep Magazines are being finalized.

    If you had an Analog membership in 2017 and/or 2018, you will be contacted via email with a reminder to update your mailing address once production finishes.

    Note: If you had an Analog membership for both years, the 2017 & 2018 Ten Club Singles and Deep Magazines will be shipped together in one package.

    All 2017 and 2018 Members will be notified when the applicable digital copies of these are made available for you to download from your account.

    /end thread. 
    Easy, man. We still have a vanilla vs cherry coke discussion pending on here.
    Hows that even a discussion. Cherry coke every time. Why does vanilla coke even exist. Glad the singles are being finalized although that term should still keep this thread ticking over until Christmas. One things for certain, these are forthcoming. 


    There's that Orange Cream Coke disaster mess.
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  • Can I just pay 5 dollars a year and keep my seniority number and that's all I get. Once again most people I speak to at the concerts are only members to keep their number. Ten club would either fold or lose the majority of their membership dues if they got rid of seniority. They know they can jerk us around because of it. 
  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.
    it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 
    I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,592
    PB11041 said:
    I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.
    it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 
    I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  
    english please?
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    PB11041 said:
    I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.
    it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 
    I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  
    english please?
    I think that the digital release for Can't Deny Me was loaded into the Content Management System that Pearl Jam's tenclub uses on a pre-existing message, you can just duplicate those.  And I don't think they modified the message properly.  It very clearly was a one off release, in the moment, not part of a bigger release.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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