Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

KV4053

Enzed said:

back on topic, what's coffee like in Hawaii?

Overrated

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spartanacus said:

I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.

it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 

I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  

english please?

I think that the digital release for Can't Deny Me was loaded into the Content Management System that Pearl Jam's tenclub uses on a pre-existing message, you can just duplicate those.  And I don't think they modified the message properly.  It very clearly was a one off release, in the moment, not part of a bigger release.

it was part of a newsletter that came out specifically saying it was "from the forthcoming Pearl Jam album". 

JB16057

BF25394 said:

Tim Simmons said:

It was you wasn't it?

The guy who brought the complaint already identified himself.

It was me that filed the complaint. I've actually met the AG of Washington State. I got the idea of filing a formal complaint with his office because he spoke at my service club group. He went in to all that his office deals with and consumer complaints were some of thing things at the top of his list. Most of the time nothing too formal comes of it. The AG's office steps in and asks the business to respond to a complaint but will not take legal action or give legal advice. This is exactly what happened with this situation. He specifically said that if someone has a consumer complaint, to go to his web site and fill out the form.

PB11041

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spartanacus said:

I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.

it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 

I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  

english please?

I think that the digital release for Can't Deny Me was loaded into the Content Management System that Pearl Jam's tenclub uses on a pre-existing message, you can just duplicate those.  And I don't think they modified the message properly.  It very clearly was a one off release, in the moment, not part of a bigger release.

it was part of a newsletter that came out specifically saying it was "from the forthcoming Pearl Jam album". 

I realize that, and they also archive all of their newsletters and there is a distinct different between the original email, and the archived version.  So my point is, when they sent the first email, it was a cut and paste of job.  

PB11041

So the photos kind of got jumbled.
In the initial email it did kind of look like it was the "2017 Single".  

The archived version strips out all of that and just says Pearl Jam has a new song.

The follow up email that came on 3.13.2018 is not archived at all, and that references from the forthcoming album.

JimmyV

It remains possible that Can't Deny Me was from an album forthcoming at that time, and that album has since been scrapped. Not saying I believe that is what happened but it is possible. Whatever album comes out this year or next may look nothing like what was once believed to be forthcoming.

Spiritual_Chaos

JimmyV said:

It remains possible that Can't Deny Me was from an album forthcoming at that time, and that album has since been scrapped. Not saying I believe that is what happened but it is possible. Whatever album comes out this year or next may look nothing like what was once believed to be forthcoming.

Exactly. Wasnt Oh My God and Atlas Shugged suppose to be on Chinede Democracy. 7 years later. Things had changed. 

bootlegger10

5 more hours for my first Diet Coke free day in a long, long time.  Stay strong Bootlegger.

Also, the newsletter didn’t really say anything new about the singles.  Although, I would expect they are close to being completed.  

Spiritual_Chaos

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spartanacus said:

I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.

it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 

I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  

english please?

I think that the digital release for Can't Deny Me was loaded into the Content Management System that Pearl Jam's tenclub uses on a pre-existing message, you can just duplicate those.  And I don't think they modified the message properly.  It very clearly was a one off release, in the moment, not part of a bigger release.

it was part of a newsletter that came out specifically saying it was "from the forthcoming Pearl Jam album". 

I realize that, and they also archive all of their newsletters and there is a distinct different between the original email, and the archived version.  So my point is, when they sent the first email, it was a cut and paste of job.  

Is it anyway to know when they changed the wording in the archived version -- was it different from the getgo or has it been revised on a later date?

HughFreakingDillon

PB11041 said:

So the photos kind of got jumbled.
In the initial email it did kind of look like it was the "2017 Single".  

The archived version strips out all of that and just says Pearl Jam has a new song.

The follow up email that came on 3.13.2018 is not archived at all, and that references from the forthcoming album.

cool. thanks!

Zod

smile6680 said:

Can I just pay 5 dollars a year and keep my seniority number and that's all I get. Once again most people I speak to at the concerts are only members to keep their number. Ten club would either fold or lose the majority of their membership dues if they got rid of seniority. They know they can jerk us around because of it. 

Yah, that's a tough one.   Every other fan club I've joined (u2, metallica, ac/dc, gnr, etc..) I only did for ticket access.   I'd sub in years I wanted to see a show then let it lapse.  PJ is the only one I've kept going for 20+ years.   Once seated tickets got allocated by seniority there's no way you don't renew, especially if you have an older membership.  It was a fairly clever move, even if that was an unintended consequence.

mace1229

Zod said:

smile6680 said:

Can I just pay 5 dollars a year and keep my seniority number and that's all I get. Once again most people I speak to at the concerts are only members to keep their number. Ten club would either fold or lose the majority of their membership dues if they got rid of seniority. They know they can jerk us around because of it. 

Yah, that's a tough one.   Every other fan club I've joined (u2, metallica, ac/dc, gnr, etc..) I only did for ticket access.   I'd sub in years I wanted to see a show then let it lapse.  PJ is the only one I've kept going for 20+ years.   Once seated tickets got allocated by seniority there's no way you don't renew, especially if you have an older membership.  It was a fairly clever move, even if that was an unintended consequence.

I joined in ‘98, and I remember very shortly after, I think in 2000, they announced it was by number to prevent people from lining up super early like they do for GA now.
A few times it was random by grouping. Grouping was by number, better number for better grouping, but was random within that group.
Thats how I remember it anyway. And you’re right, I would consider letting my membership lapse if they got rid of seniority. But for $30/year, I’m keeping my number.

NewJPage

mace1229 said:

Zod said:

smile6680 said:

Can I just pay 5 dollars a year and keep my seniority number and that's all I get. Once again most people I speak to at the concerts are only members to keep their number. Ten club would either fold or lose the majority of their membership dues if they got rid of seniority. They know they can jerk us around because of it. 

Yah, that's a tough one.   Every other fan club I've joined (u2, metallica, ac/dc, gnr, etc..) I only did for ticket access.   I'd sub in years I wanted to see a show then let it lapse.  PJ is the only one I've kept going for 20+ years.   Once seated tickets got allocated by seniority there's no way you don't renew, especially if you have an older membership.  It was a fairly clever move, even if that was an unintended consequence.

I joined in ‘98, and I remember very shortly after, I think in 2000, they announced it was by number to prevent people from lining up super early like they do for GA now.
A few times it was random by grouping. Grouping was by number, better number for better grouping, but was random within that group.
Thats how I remember it anyway. And you’re right, I would consider letting my membership lapse if they got rid of seniority. But for $30/year, I’m keeping my number.

Grouping was 03 tour if I remember right. After that they started doing it by individual numbers 

PB11041

Spiritual_Chaos said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

PB11041 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Spartanacus said:

I figured the free Can't Deny Me single download was the 2017 single (2016 being the R&R HOF singles, even though they were recorded in April of 2017)???  Okay, now I'm even more confused, but I'll take the singles.  Thanks PJ.

it was billed as Side A of 2017 Ten Club Single and also first single off album 11. 

I think those were all CMS misfires, someone just loaded the link quickly into archived messages and fixed somethings but not all.  

english please?

I think that the digital release for Can't Deny Me was loaded into the Content Management System that Pearl Jam's tenclub uses on a pre-existing message, you can just duplicate those.  And I don't think they modified the message properly.  It very clearly was a one off release, in the moment, not part of a bigger release.

it was part of a newsletter that came out specifically saying it was "from the forthcoming Pearl Jam album". 

I realize that, and they also archive all of their newsletters and there is a distinct different between the original email, and the archived version.  So my point is, when they sent the first email, it was a cut and paste of job.  

Is it anyway to know when they changed the wording in the archived version -- was it different from the getgo or has it been revised on a later date?

No, but rarely are the archived versions different from the original if at all.

JimmyV

Regardless of anyone's feelings about Can't Deny Me, it turning out to not be part of the 2017 single would be great because we would then potentially be getting 4 new songs rather than 3.

mcgruff10

NewJPage said:

mace1229 said:

Zod said:

smile6680 said:

Can I just pay 5 dollars a year and keep my seniority number and that's all I get. Once again most people I speak to at the concerts are only members to keep their number. Ten club would either fold or lose the majority of their membership dues if they got rid of seniority. They know they can jerk us around because of it. 

Yah, that's a tough one.   Every other fan club I've joined (u2, metallica, ac/dc, gnr, etc..) I only did for ticket access.   I'd sub in years I wanted to see a show then let it lapse.  PJ is the only one I've kept going for 20+ years.   Once seated tickets got allocated by seniority there's no way you don't renew, especially if you have an older membership.  It was a fairly clever move, even if that was an unintended consequence.

I joined in ‘98, and I remember very shortly after, I think in 2000, they announced it was by number to prevent people from lining up super early like they do for GA now.
A few times it was random by grouping. Grouping was by number, better number for better grouping, but was random within that group.
Thats how I remember it anyway. And you’re right, I would consider letting my membership lapse if they got rid of seniority. But for $30/year, I’m keeping my number.

Grouping was 03 tour if I remember right. After that they started doing it by individual numbers 

Grouping or "blocks" were used on the 2000 and 2003 tours.

JimmyV

Let's hope "finalized" isn't the new "forthcoming".

pjsteelerfan

pjsteelerfan said:

PB11041 said:

Damn it!  Looks like the thread will come to end with the news of this newsletter!

We have yet to see what are on them. That could lead to a whole new round. Especially if it is like the Shattered one. 

Still going strong

HesCalledDyer

Lost In Ohio said:

FR181798 said:

Jammalambo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

demetrios said:

https://pearljam.com/ten-club/event/2017-2018-member-benefit-update

2017 & 2018 MEMBER BENEFIT UPDATE

NEWS SEPTEMBER 10 2019

The 2017 & 2018 Ten Club Singles and Deep Magazines are being finalized.

If you had an Analog membership in 2017 and/or 2018, you will be contacted via email with a reminder to update your mailing address once production finishes.

Note: If you had an Analog membership for both years, the 2017 & 2018 Ten Club Singles and Deep Magazines will be shipped together in one package.

All 2017 and 2018 Members will be notified when the applicable digital copies of these are made available for you to download from your account.

/end thread. 

Easy, man. We still have a vanilla vs cherry coke discussion pending on here.

Hows that even a discussion. Cherry coke every time. Why does vanilla coke even exist. Glad the singles are being finalized although that term should still keep this thread ticking over until Christmas. One things for certain, these are forthcoming. 

There's that Orange Cream Coke disaster mess.

Orange Vanilla Coke is surprisingly good.  I didn't think it would be, but they got the formula right.

theebradness

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