Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,739
    JB16057 said:
    Can we get an official response from the Ten Club on this matter? They must have some kind of update. Even if they have no updates, they could at least tell us that they've passed on this frustration to the band. This is really shady of Pearl Jam and the Ten Club to treat paying customers like this.
    A few posts up from yours, someone posted an email from the 10c
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,633
    JB16057 said:
    Can we get an official response from the Ten Club on this matter? They must have some kind of update. Even if they have no updates, they could at least tell us that they've passed on this frustration to the band. This is really shady of Pearl Jam and the Ten Club to treat paying customers like this.
    Here is a contact for you:

    https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    kramer73 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Can we get an official response from the Ten Club on this matter? They must have some kind of update. Even if they have no updates, they could at least tell us that they've passed on this frustration to the band. This is really shady of Pearl Jam and the Ten Club to treat paying customers like this.
    Here is a contact for you:

    https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
    That has nothing to do with his post.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    The Deeps and singles will never be done. So one might as well dream.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • NewJPage
    NewJPage Posts: 3,320
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    The Deeps and singles will never be done. So one might as well dream.
    For some dumb reason I think they'll make last singles really cool, but it'll still be awhile. Maybe one this winter?
    6/26/98, 8/17/00, 10/8/00, 12/8/02, 12/9/02, 4/25/03, 5/28/03, 6/1/03, 6/3/03, 6/5/03, 6/6/03, 6/12/03, 6/13/03, 6/15/03, 6/18/03, 6/21/03, 6/22/03, 7/12/03, 7/14/03, 10/3/04, 10/5/04, 9/9/05, 9/11/05, 9/16/05, 5/16/06, 5/17/06, 5/19/06, 6/30/06, 7/23/06, 8/5/07, 6/30/08, 8/23/09, 8/24/09, 5/4/10, 5/7/10, 9/3/11, 9/4/11, 10/11/13, 10/17/14, 8/20/16
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,505
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    The Deeps and singles will never be done. So one might as well dream.
    For some dumb reason I think they'll make last singles really cool, but it'll still be awhile. Maybe one this winter?
    I also believe this.

    But I also believed that the Easy Street vinyl would be the whole show.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Snowball II
    Snowball II Posts: 38

  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,002
    They should give us the latest vault for free
  • DavidD
    DavidD Posts: 2,558
    Snowball II said:

    Yup! I agree. A bunch of tired ass donkeys. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    Snowball II said:

    Lol
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553

  • Tim Simmons
    Tim Simmons Posts: 9,739
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    The Deeps and singles will never be done.Spiritual_Chaos said:
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    NewJPage said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    I hope one DEEP is a Dave A issue, when he is the guest editor and gets to fill it up with his stories and stuff. Would be cool.

    A lot of the coolest videos from the Pearl Jam "camp" comes from him -- so I would guess he also have some cool stories, kept artifacts and memories from the studio sessions etc.
    Least likely suggestion possible 
    The Deeps and singles will never be done. So one might as well dream.
    For some dumb reason I think they'll make last singles really cool, but it'll still be awhile. Maybe one this winter?
    I also believe this.

    Huh? You don’t think they’ll ever be done but you think when they do come they’ll be awesome?
  • kramer73
    kramer73 Posts: 2,633
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    kramer73 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Can we get an official response from the Ten Club on this matter? They must have some kind of update. Even if they have no updates, they could at least tell us that they've passed on this frustration to the band. This is really shady of Pearl Jam and the Ten Club to treat paying customers like this.
    Here is a contact for you:

    https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
    That has nothing to do with his post.
    It's for the Better Business Bureau, so it absolutely has something to do with his post.  He says that Pearl Jam and the Ten Club are shady and we are paying customers.  If that's something he/she believes, that is the place to contact.
  • rictus58
    rictus58 Posts: 53
    edited August 2019
    kramer73 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    kramer73 said:
    JB16057 said:
    Can we get an official response from the Ten Club on this matter? They must have some kind of update. Even if they have no updates, they could at least tell us that they've passed on this frustration to the band. This is really shady of Pearl Jam and the Ten Club to treat paying customers like this.
    Here is a contact for you:

    https://www.bbb.org/consumer-complaints/file-a-complaint/get-started
    That has nothing to do with his post.
    It's for the Better Business Bureau, so it absolutely has something to do with his post.  He says that Pearl Jam and the Ten Club are shady and we are paying customers.  If that's something he/she believes, that is the place to contact.
    The BBB  is not a government agency. They have no sway to do anything. Complaining to Yelp would have the same effect. Contacting the consumer protection board for WA state might accomplish something. But I doubt it. 
  • JB16057
    JB16057 Posts: 1,269
    If you look on the BBB web site, you'll see there have been a couple of complaints against the Ten Club. The Ten Club responded to both complaints and it sounds like they were in the right. The BBB might not be a government agency, but they will approach the Ten Club and ask if the Ten Club wants to give an official response. 

    Another option is the Washington State Attorney General. I did file a complaint with them so we'll see if it goes anywhere. One big issue is that we pay the Ten Club for the membership. The Ten Club blames the band for not getting the single and DEEP ready. How is that fair? They are both at fault here but in the end, we aren't paying the band. The Ten Club has the ultimate responsibility of fulfilling what we've paid for. I've been "warned" through this message board that I'm not allowed to bring up a lawsuit because we aren't allowed to threaten the band or Ten Club. They silenced me by deleting my message. We have every right to sue the Ten Club. They took our money and we were supposed to receive something in return. They are 2 years behind on the singles and 2 years behind on DEEP. I feel that this has gone on long enough and they aren't providing any information on how this will be resolved. Are they still planning on sending out 2 singles and 2 copies of DEEP? We are now in 2019 so are they going to be sending 3 copies of DEEP? The band and the Ten Club have shined this on for too long. All I want is some communication and I won't accept excuses or the blame game.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    JB16057 said:
    If you look on the BBB web site, you'll see there have been a couple of complaints against the Ten Club. The Ten Club responded to both complaints and it sounds like they were in the right. The BBB might not be a government agency, but they will approach the Ten Club and ask if the Ten Club wants to give an official response. 

    Another option is the Washington State Attorney General. I did file a complaint with them so we'll see if it goes anywhere. One big issue is that we pay the Ten Club for the membership. The Ten Club blames the band for not getting the single and DEEP ready. How is that fair? They are both at fault here but in the end, we aren't paying the band. The Ten Club has the ultimate responsibility of fulfilling what we've paid for. I've been "warned" through this message board that I'm not allowed to bring up a lawsuit because we aren't allowed to threaten the band or Ten Club. They silenced me by deleting my message. We have every right to sue the Ten Club. They took our money and we were supposed to receive something in return. They are 2 years behind on the singles and 2 years behind on DEEP. I feel that this has gone on long enough and they aren't providing any information on how this will be resolved. Are they still planning on sending out 2 singles and 2 copies of DEEP? We are now in 2019 so are they going to be sending 3 copies of DEEP? The band and the Ten Club have shined this on for too long. All I want is some communication and I won't accept excuses or the blame game.
    My only hope is that your complaint leads to a congressional investigation.  This coverup has gone on too long and the truth needs to be known!
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    JB16057 said:
    If you look on the BBB web site, you'll see there have been a couple of complaints against the Ten Club. The Ten Club responded to both complaints and it sounds like they were in the right. The BBB might not be a government agency, but they will approach the Ten Club and ask if the Ten Club wants to give an official response. 

    Another option is the Washington State Attorney General. I did file a complaint with them so we'll see if it goes anywhere. One big issue is that we pay the Ten Club for the membership. The Ten Club blames the band for not getting the single and DEEP ready. How is that fair? They are both at fault here but in the end, we aren't paying the band. The Ten Club has the ultimate responsibility of fulfilling what we've paid for. I've been "warned" through this message board that I'm not allowed to bring up a lawsuit because we aren't allowed to threaten the band or Ten Club. They silenced me by deleting my message. We have every right to sue the Ten Club. They took our money and we were supposed to receive something in return. They are 2 years behind on the singles and 2 years behind on DEEP. I feel that this has gone on long enough and they aren't providing any information on how this will be resolved. Are they still planning on sending out 2 singles and 2 copies of DEEP? We are now in 2019 so are they going to be sending 3 copies of DEEP? The band and the Ten Club have shined this on for too long. All I want is some communication and I won't accept excuses or the blame game.
    Even assuming you only joined to get the singles, what is your time worth? How many hours of effort before you get to $80?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,601
    JB16057 said:
    If you look on the BBB web site, you'll see there have been a couple of complaints against the Ten Club. The Ten Club responded to both complaints and it sounds like they were in the right. The BBB might not be a government agency, but they will approach the Ten Club and ask if the Ten Club wants to give an official response. 

    Another option is the Washington State Attorney General. I did file a complaint with them so we'll see if it goes anywhere. One big issue is that we pay the Ten Club for the membership. The Ten Club blames the band for not getting the single and DEEP ready. How is that fair? They are both at fault here but in the end, we aren't paying the band. The Ten Club has the ultimate responsibility of fulfilling what we've paid for. I've been "warned" through this message board that I'm not allowed to bring up a lawsuit because we aren't allowed to threaten the band or Ten Club. They silenced me by deleting my message. We have every right to sue the Ten Club. They took our money and we were supposed to receive something in return. They are 2 years behind on the singles and 2 years behind on DEEP. I feel that this has gone on long enough and they aren't providing any information on how this will be resolved. Are they still planning on sending out 2 singles and 2 copies of DEEP? We are now in 2019 so are they going to be sending 3 copies of DEEP? The band and the Ten Club have shined this on for too long. All I want is some communication and I won't accept excuses or the blame game.
    I understand you frustration and I don't disagree that these business practices are poor, but this is a bridge too far, IMO.
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