Tool

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and after this long, I've honestly lost all interest in Tool now anyway. 

Understandable. Personally I never got tired of seeing them live, despite playing mostly the same stuff live for the last 12 years.

As limited as the catalog is, I still think they're one of the best acts of my life, and frankly too damn good to let this hiatus get in the way of my enjoyment of what they do. (which is just my opinion, I understand and respect yours)

it's mainly because I was never a huge fan to begin with. I had all their albums, for a period I listened to them quite often, but without the emotional component that ties my relationship to their music, they just don't do it for me anymore. Hell, I might feel the same had they released 3 albums during this time.

I saw them live once and they were phenomenal, but I don't have this great urge to see them again, knowing what you said, that they don't deviate the setlist much. I like bands that engage, not just a band that is performing math set to a rhythm.  

But they're so much more than just a band...to me, anyway.  I don't need or want Maynard to engage if that's not his thing.

After having seen them three times, plus once each for Puscifer and APC, I don't expect any surprises.  Just a fucking amazing band with phenomenal vocals and lyrics.

(I've heard there's some connection made with the logo and old-school syringes; makes sense, given the album title.)

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and after this long, I've honestly lost all interest in Tool now anyway. 

Understandable. Personally I never got tired of seeing them live, despite playing mostly the same stuff live for the last 12 years.

As limited as the catalog is, I still think they're one of the best acts of my life, and frankly too damn good to let this hiatus get in the way of my enjoyment of what they do. (which is just my opinion, I understand and respect yours)

it's mainly because I was never a huge fan to begin with. I had all their albums, for a period I listened to them quite often, but without the emotional component that ties my relationship to their music, they just don't do it for me anymore. Hell, I might feel the same had they released 3 albums during this time.

I saw them live once and they were phenomenal, but I don't have this great urge to see them again, knowing what you said, that they don't deviate the setlist much. I like bands that engage, not just a band that is performing math set to a rhythm.  

But they're so much more than just a band...to me, anyway.  I don't need or want Maynard to engage if that's not his thing.

After having seen them three times, plus once each for Puscifer and APC, I don't expect any surprises.  Just a fucking amazing band with phenomenal vocals and lyrics.

(I've heard there's some connection made with the logo and old-school syringes; makes sense, given the album title.)

I held out on Puscifer for a while, but the second album got me... they are so freaking good, as is APC. I don’t love 100% of their content, but will never pass up the opportunity to see either of them, OR Tool for that matter. 

Merkin Baller said:

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and after this long, I've honestly lost all interest in Tool now anyway. 

Understandable. Personally I never got tired of seeing them live, despite playing mostly the same stuff live for the last 12 years.

As limited as the catalog is, I still think they're one of the best acts of my life, and frankly too damn good to let this hiatus get in the way of my enjoyment of what they do. (which is just my opinion, I understand and respect yours)

it's mainly because I was never a huge fan to begin with. I had all their albums, for a period I listened to them quite often, but without the emotional component that ties my relationship to their music, they just don't do it for me anymore. Hell, I might feel the same had they released 3 albums during this time.

I saw them live once and they were phenomenal, but I don't have this great urge to see them again, knowing what you said, that they don't deviate the setlist much. I like bands that engage, not just a band that is performing math set to a rhythm.  

But they're so much more than just a band...to me, anyway.  I don't need or want Maynard to engage if that's not his thing.

After having seen them three times, plus once each for Puscifer and APC, I don't expect any surprises.  Just a fucking amazing band with phenomenal vocals and lyrics.

(I've heard there's some connection made with the logo and old-school syringes; makes sense, given the album title.)

I held out on Puscifer for a while, but the second album got me... they are so freaking good, as is APC. I don’t love 100% of their content, but will never pass up the opportunity to see either of them, OR Tool for that matter. 

Seeing APC from the first row at the Hollywood Bowl is one of the highlights of my concert experiences.

We watched the Rogan podcast last night; some great random stuff in there, plus just shooting the shit.  Love those men's brains.

As with every Tool release 10,000 Days takes a while to grow on you. It's like playing Pass The Parcel at a birthday party-every time you listen to it you peel off a layer. You find one bit you like, then another bit, then an awesome bit, then you realise that the way the songs are put together is amazing. It's rabbit hole stuff though and defo don't begrudge anyone's negative opinion of the band. Vicarious is epic, that and The Pot are the most immediate songs. There are two opuses on there-Wings/10,000 Days and Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned. I'd recommend Rosetta Stoned to someone familiar with Tool and musicians as that song is a mindfuck about the singer of Green Jelly on an acid trip. Danny Carey is for mine the best drummer in the world and his work on the middle sections of the song are possibly his best ever. Dude plays three time signatures at once.

As for Fear Inoculum, Adam is on the cover of Guitar World next month and you can already find the article online. 7 songs, the album has recurring themes of 7. Hopefully they are 7 amazing pieces. Hell it's out this month. Hugh I'd give it a go once or twice just to see how they've progressed musically-I've done that to other bands I became meh about. Might be lucky and happen to dig it.

I enjoyed 10,000 days right away but like it even more today. I will admit that I do not like their odd stuff that they throw into the albums and I skip them right away but as far as true songs go they do not have a bad one imo. 

hedonist said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Merkin Baller said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

and after this long, I've honestly lost all interest in Tool now anyway. 

Understandable. Personally I never got tired of seeing them live, despite playing mostly the same stuff live for the last 12 years.

As limited as the catalog is, I still think they're one of the best acts of my life, and frankly too damn good to let this hiatus get in the way of my enjoyment of what they do. (which is just my opinion, I understand and respect yours)

it's mainly because I was never a huge fan to begin with. I had all their albums, for a period I listened to them quite often, but without the emotional component that ties my relationship to their music, they just don't do it for me anymore. Hell, I might feel the same had they released 3 albums during this time.

I saw them live once and they were phenomenal, but I don't have this great urge to see them again, knowing what you said, that they don't deviate the setlist much. I like bands that engage, not just a band that is performing math set to a rhythm.  

But they're so much more than just a band...to me, anyway.  I don't need or want Maynard to engage if that's not his thing.

After having seen them three times, plus once each for Puscifer and APC, I don't expect any surprises.  Just a fucking amazing band with phenomenal vocals and lyrics.

(I've heard there's some connection made with the logo and old-school syringes; makes sense, given the album title.)

no, of course I don't want engagement that is fake. I just like engagement in my rock acts. youtube some Headstones live stuff for an idea of what my thing is. 

I enjoyed APC way more than Tool live. Seen APC twice. It's like MJK has different performing personalities. Way more engaged when I saw him with APC. 

And I generally need some type of relatability in my music. I just don't relate to Tool's lyrics or themes in any way. It's why "grunge" was so huge for me. I always knew the metal I liked was missing something, but I didn't know what it was. I loved the heavy rock, but the lyrics and comical/fantastical theatrics never did it for me. It's why I actually like post-black album metallica more than pre-black album metallica: they lyrics. Huge fan of St Anger. only person on the planet, apparently. LOL

HughFreakingDillon said:

JT167846 said:

As with every Tool release 10,000 Days takes a while to grow on you. It's like playing Pass The Parcel at a birthday party-every time you listen to it you peel off a layer. You find one bit you like, then another bit, then an awesome bit, then you realise that the way the songs are put together is amazing. It's rabbit hole stuff though and defo don't begrudge anyone's negative opinion of the band. Vicarious is epic, that and The Pot are the most immediate songs. There are two opuses on there-Wings/10,000 Days and Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned. I'd recommend Rosetta Stoned to someone familiar with Tool and musicians as that song is a mindfuck about the singer of Green Jelly on an acid trip. Danny Carey is for mine the best drummer in the world and his work on the middle sections of the song are possibly his best ever. Dude plays three time signatures at once.

As for Fear Inoculum, Adam is on the cover of Guitar World next month and you can already find the article online. 7 songs, the album has recurring themes of 7. Hopefully they are 7 amazing pieces. Hell it's out this month. Hugh I'd give it a go once or twice just to see how they've progressed musically-I've done that to other bands I became meh about. Might be lucky and happen to dig it.

oh I'll probably buy it on release day, you can be sure of that. as a massive music fan, I always keep an open mind. 

except for nickelback. 

Hater...

tempo_n_groove said:

JT167846 said:

As with every Tool release 10,000 Days takes a while to grow on you. It's like playing Pass The Parcel at a birthday party-every time you listen to it you peel off a layer. You find one bit you like, then another bit, then an awesome bit, then you realise that the way the songs are put together is amazing. It's rabbit hole stuff though and defo don't begrudge anyone's negative opinion of the band. Vicarious is epic, that and The Pot are the most immediate songs. There are two opuses on there-Wings/10,000 Days and Lost Keys/Rosetta Stoned. I'd recommend Rosetta Stoned to someone familiar with Tool and musicians as that song is a mindfuck about the singer of Green Jelly on an acid trip. Danny Carey is for mine the best drummer in the world and his work on the middle sections of the song are possibly his best ever. Dude plays three time signatures at once.

As for Fear Inoculum, Adam is on the cover of Guitar World next month and you can already find the article online. 7 songs, the album has recurring themes of 7. Hopefully they are 7 amazing pieces. Hell it's out this month. Hugh I'd give it a go once or twice just to see how they've progressed musically-I've done that to other bands I became meh about. Might be lucky and happen to dig it.

Perfect description.

Perfect.

Agreed!  Though I'd put Peart with Carey.  Same league, different styles.  When we spotted Danny at a small Puscifer show here in LA, the dude was friendly, down-to-earth, and literally stood head and shoulders over everyone else

Yeah, I'm really looking forward to this album, from the title alone.  Can't wait to delve into the lyrics.  Well, into the whole thing.

HFD, I didn't think I could relate much to the band when my husband first introduced me to them way back via a CD mix.  First up was Stinkfist and I thought "oh c'mon" at the opening.  By the time I got to H and then Prison Sex (only video ever to make me cry, it hit so fucking close to home), I was in for good.  The writing is always impeccable, poetic in its way, and ultimately honest.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/ckbzid/new_guitar_world/

exciting if this is true 

PJNB said:

pjsteelerfan said:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ToolBand/comments/ckbzid/new_guitar_world/

exciting if this is true 

I do not use Reddit. What is it?

You can read the thread, reddit is not private.  Outtakes of Adam Jones interview in Guitar world next month with talk of the album.  7 songs, 80 minutes long. Some speculation from fans. etc.