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    cutzcutz Posts: 11,547
    I've  listen to the CD a couple of times and it's not really grabbing me.  I've only played it in my Car , so i'll have to listen on my Home stereo system.
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    iammine16 said:
    Incredible packaging! Absolutely love this album!
    Don't you dare point that at me!
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Merkin Baller said:
    The slide guitar on Descending is f’ing awesome. 
    Reminds me of One of these days by Pink Floyd
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited September 2019
    I enjoyed Invincible more when I listened to it in isolation. Probably because I was fatigued by the time I got to it with my first 2 listens.
    Culling Voices I'm loving more and more
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited September 2019
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    cp3iversoncp3iverson Posts: 8,660
    Anyone got an extra copy?
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited September 2019
    There's something magical, something soothing, something spiritual about staring at the clouds against a blue sky and breathing the cool Spring breeze whilst Pneuma plays
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,892
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    Same here, the ATH-M50x!
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    given2fly23 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    Same here, the ATH-M50x!
    Mine are the ATH-M40x
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
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    darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,522
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    given2fly23 said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    Same here, the ATH-M50x!
    Mine are the ATH-M40x
    Also part of the ATH club...I think mine are the M50s.
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 3,012
    I have a pair of M50x, too. Compared to my Shure and Roland cans, the ATs are superior in nearly every way. 
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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,220
    edited September 2019
    PJNB said:
    pjl44 said:
    PJNB said:
    I am sure the info is right in front of me but can someone explain if it is worth it to do the Tool Army for the presale? 
    I've been in TA since they started it and honestly can't remember. Non-festival shows around me have been so infrequent and presales even more so. I fully expect their website to seize and die on Wednesday. 
    I need to look more into this. So its on their website? I do so more digging when I get home Monday from vacation. 

    It's now $50 a year to join TA and VIP is usually $500. So if Tool comes near your town once every 5 years that's a $750 committment for VIP. (Tool has not headlined in NYC since 2006, not counting shared stage festivals).

    I'd love to buy VIP tickets but not the $50 each year. $20/yr for a club  is plenty. Especially to have a great forum like this 

    In the past they have at times opened up VIP to all fans but you have to watch all the shows sell out first and hope they open up the VIP. Tool has generated such a huge buzz it looks like ticket availability will be in the Pearl Jam difficulty level to buy.

    Current tour info is very limited. How difficult is it to provide all options for fans in advance and let them know what seats they are buying at time of purchase? Reminds me of this other band...


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    manitoumanmanitouman In My Head Posts: 1,073
    Yea, got a feeling this is going to be a tough ticket to score.
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    RobbyD462RobbyD462 Victoria BC Posts: 4,796
    Hard to believe that there isn’t any screaming on this album.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,633
    At least 10c delivers on their commitment to making presale tickets available. This is the first time in over 10 years of being a member of Tool Army that I’ve seen them secure non VIP tickets for presale, which was the reason why I joined in the first place. Tool’s fanclub sucks. 

    If I wasn’t a lifetime member, I would have let my membership lapse years ago. 
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    given2fly23given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 5,892
    Merkin Baller said:
    Tool’s fanclub sucks. 

    If I wasn’t a lifetime member, I would have let my membership lapse years ago. 
    Wait, they offered a lifetime membership? Yeah, I can't fork over another $50 without even knowing how the pre-sale will go down. 
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    pjl44pjl44 Posts: 8,387
    given2fly23 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Tool’s fanclub sucks. 

    If I wasn’t a lifetime member, I would have let my membership lapse years ago. 
    Wait, they offered a lifetime membership? Yeah, I can't fork over another $50 without even knowing how the pre-sale will go down. 
    If you signed up before a certain date, you're in for good
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,633
    given2fly23 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Tool’s fanclub sucks. 

    If I wasn’t a lifetime member, I would have let my membership lapse years ago. 
    Wait, they offered a lifetime membership? Yeah, I can't fork over another $50 without even knowing how the pre-sale will go down. 
    I can’t recall if all memberships were lifetime or if that was just the package I selected when I joined (I think it was the former).

    A few years ago they announced that they were ending the lifetime membership option & changing to an annual membership, but the previously purchased lifetime memberships would still be honored. 
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 3,012
    I haven't seen Tool live but I have heard that they don't deviate from the studio versions of their songs.

    If so, that's kind of a bummer but it would still be nice to go for the A/V spectacle. 

    Those that have seen them: Is it worth the hundreds of dollars, the hassle of getting tickets and traveling to the show?
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    nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 7,923
    Merkin Baller said:
    mr bungle said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Tool, Pearl Jam & Faith No More are my all time favorites in no particular order. In the last 2.5 years I've been lucky enough to see them a combined ten times.

    I'm a very grateful fan. 

    Wow man!  You just nailed my top 3 also.  We must have been separated at birth.  Great taste Merkin!
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    HesCalledDyerHesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,423
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    By nature a CD is always going to be better quality than an iTunes download. A CD is uncompressed whereas iTunes Store is 256k AAC.
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    By nature a CD is always going to be better quality than an iTunes download. A CD is uncompressed whereas iTunes Store is 256k AAC.
    Thanks!
    What happens if I rip a CD to mp3?
    Does it lose its quality?
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    Thoughts_ArriveThoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Culling Voices is stuck in my head
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    eeriepadaveeeriepadave West Chester, PA Posts: 41,216
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9D2R69gVyZ0

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    dudemandudeman Posts: 3,012
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    darthvedder said:
    given2fly23 said:
    This is a sonic experience in full 24-bit quality on good headphones. Wow. 
    Agreed. This is the way to listen to the album. The drumming really shines in Hi-Res audio. I don't know why they bothered with the archaic CD format. If you're going to put out more than 80 minutes of music, it should be done digitally.
    The drumming really shines on my Audio Technica headphones.

    Is there any truth to the claim by one fan on Tool's Facebook page that the sound quality is better on the CD than the iTunes download?
    By nature a CD is always going to be better quality than an iTunes download. A CD is uncompressed whereas iTunes Store is 256k AAC.
    Thanks!
    What happens if I rip a CD to mp3?
    Does it lose its quality?
    Yes.
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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    edited September 2019
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen Tool live but I have heard that they don't deviate from the studio versions of their songs.

    If so, that's kind of a bummer but it would still be nice to go for the A/V spectacle. 

    Those that have seen them: Is it worth the hundreds of dollars, the hassle of getting tickets and traveling to the show?
    Tool is an experience like no other. To see 4 guys pull off that stuff live mixed with an unbelievable light show and video screens transports you to a different world. You are mesmerized from lights off to lights on. Worth every penny. Seen them maybe 8-10 times. First time in a small theater in 1996 or 97. Last time a couple years ago. Phenomenal every time. 
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    Mike D88Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 723
    Going off audience recordings, the new material is played way punchier live. And that GONG!
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    dudemandudeman Posts: 3,012
    pearljammr78 said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen Tool live but I have heard that they don't deviate from the studio versions of their songs.

    If so, that's kind of a bummer but it would still be nice to go for the A/V spectacle. 

    Those that have seen them: Is it worth the hundreds of dollars, the hassle of getting tickets and traveling to the show?
    Tool is an experience like no other. To see 4 guys pull off that stuff live mixed with an unbelievable light show and video screens transports you to a different world. You are mesmerized from lights off to lights on. Worth every penny. Seen them maybe 8-10 times. First time in a small theater in 1996 or 97. Last time a couple years ago. Phenomenal every time. 
    Thanks for that. I'll definitely try to get tickets if they come to my neck of the woods. 
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    Hi!Hi! Posts: 3,095
    edited September 2019
    dudeman said:
    pearljammr78 said:
    dudeman said:
    I haven't seen Tool live but I have heard that they don't deviate from the studio versions of their songs.

    If so, that's kind of a bummer but it would still be nice to go for the A/V spectacle. 

    Those that have seen them: Is it worth the hundreds of dollars, the hassle of getting tickets and traveling to the show?
    Tool is an experience like no other. To see 4 guys pull off that stuff live mixed with an unbelievable light show and video screens transports you to a different world. You are mesmerized from lights off to lights on. Worth every penny. Seen them maybe 8-10 times. First time in a small theater in 1996 or 97. Last time a couple years ago. Phenomenal every time. 
    Thanks for that. I'll definitely try to get tickets if they come to my neck of the woods. 
    I’ve only seen them once. If they came to my neck of the woods I might go again. I wouldn’t put in travel money or pay over face value to go. A PJ show blows Tool out of the water. Not even close.
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    pearljammr78pearljammr78 Posts: 1,613
    I can’t even compare the two. While PJ is my favorite band and the songs mean a lot more to me. They are not the visual experience that Tool are. PJ is better live but Tool is right up there. 
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