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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited May 2019
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    I don't think it's ageist to point out differences between generations (and I know you don't either). Maybe that is why no one has made that accusation?
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    njnancy said:
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    He had an even better response on Jimmy Fallon last night, which I suppose could be called elitist, but I found to be great...


    https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/buttigieg-laughs-off-trump-calling-him-alfred-e-neuman-59581509946


    And nice going with the woman at Tim's. If I was homeless, I'd probably go for the best if given the chance too. :smile:




    yeah, at first i was like "so that's how it's going to be, eh?", but then I thought what you just thought, and realized it wasn't a big deal. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    PJ_Soul said:
    I'm surprised no one has accused Pete's tweet as being ageist yet. 
    I don't think it's ageist to point out differences between generations (and I know you don't either). Maybe that is why no one has made that accusation?
    it was more of a comment in jest that I'm not at all surprised, based on who we're talking about. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,900
    Wow, I didn't know that.  Add that to how well coal is doing thanks to Trump (smh).
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    he's still touting that quote about "if the wind doesn't blow, you aren't watching tv that night". wtf. seriously no one can believe that. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    me neither
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

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    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
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  • njnancynjnancy Northern New Jersey Posts: 5,096
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
     This is not normal.  
  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    njnancy said:
    mfc2006 said:
    njnancy said:
    I’m not sure I have it in me to watch but if I need comedic relief, I may reconsider. You’ve been warned.

    https://apple.news/Ad5bWdbIqQbCXlejSMadQJw
    I read the article, I am not prepared to watch this lunacy right now. I actually can't watch him speak, it makes me crazy. 
    2+ years in, I still can't believe this is real life. 
    Same here.
     This is not normal.  
    Nowhere near normal.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,171
    hmm I thought media like that was supposed to at least offer equal time for candidates?    Maybe that doesn't apply in this case somehow?  
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    https://apple.news/AyaNNtdZ2Stmw3krvUX7Y
    basically telling Congress go screw yourselves and daring them to do something about it , the country is under control by a mob family and people better be ready for this to be the norm from now on ! The family will be in control for yrs to come 2020 will not make this stop ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,141
    edited May 2019
    I work at a mortgage company and spoke with a guy in Florida who has an adjustable rate that is adjusting in August. Rates have dipped recently but long term trend is for them to rise so it's a good time to take care of it now.

    Anyway, I was explaining this to the guy and was telling him this is a great time to get his rate fixed at a lower rate than his current adjustable and keep him on the same term yada yada yada.

    His response was something of the effect of "Well due to the great Trump economy I think rates are going to go down again so I'm gonna keep my adjustable." 

    I explained that when the economy is doing well, it usually means rates rise. Then he asked if that's true then why is the president is telling the fed to lower rates? I said I think it's either because he doesn't know how it works or it's just for political purposes. Then he says something like "well let's hope the democrats don''t take over and drive the economy into the ground like they did the last time." I was like "sir, that great recession occurred back in the Bush administration."

    Then he say curse word... I hang up!

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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,072
    Howard stern is the best interviewer in history. And that was a great interview with him. Thank you.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
    Fair! A few cheap shots, so maybe I'm wrong and he doesn't know who Alfred E. Neumann is. <sarcasm> I suppose he's not worthy of a vote then. </sarcasm>
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,867
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
    Fair! A few cheap shots, so maybe I'm wrong and he doesn't know who Alfred E. Neumann is. <sarcasm> I suppose he's not worthy of a vote then. </sarcasm>
    You keep skewing the narratives.

    It was just a simple question from me, to you.
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited May 2019
    WHAT. THE. FUCK??!!

    White House escalates war against Facebook, Google and Twitter with a campaign asking users to share stories of censorship


    The White House on Wednesday escalated its war against social media when it announced an unprecedented campaign asking Internet users to share stories of when they thought they were censored by Facebook, Google’s YouTube and Twitter, tapping into President Trump’s long-running claim that tech giants are biased against conservatives.

    The effort, which the White House said on Twitter was directed at users “no matter your views,” seeks to collect names, contact information and other details from Americans. The survey asks whether they have encountered problems on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter or other social media sites — companies the president frequently takes aim at for alleged political censorship.

    “Too many Americans have seen their accounts suspended, banned, or fraudulently reported for unclear ‘violations’ of user policies,” the survey claims.

    In seeking supporters’ contact information, the White House also asked for permission to send email newsletters about “President Trump’s fight for free speech.”

    The companies have long denied that they engage in political censorship. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Facebook and Google also did not immediately respond. In a statement, Twitter stressed it enforces its rules “impartially for all users, regardless of their background or political affiliation.”

    The effort marks Trump’s latest attack on the tech industry, which he has threatened to regulate in response to allegations that they censor right-leaning users and websites online. But it comes on the same day that the White House opted against supporting an international campaign to crack down on hate speech and other forms of extremism online out of concerns that even the symbolic pact could create free-speech headaches. The Christchurch call is named after a city in New Zealand where an attacker inspired by online hate killed 50 people.

    The form asks people to detail whether Facebook, Twitter, Google-owned YouTube or others “took action against your account,” and asked for user names or links to users’ profiles or specific posts, such as tweets, that may have been flagged by one of the tech companies. The White House also asked to see copies of notifications that social-media sites sent to users when they take action against their posts, photos or videos.




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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    Wowee.

    Trump signs order to protect U.S. networks from foreign espionage, a move that appears to target China



    Amid a deepening trade war with China, President Trump on Wednesday declared a “national emergency” to protect U.S. communications networks in a move that gives the federal government broad powers to bar American companies from doing business with certain foreign suppliers — including the Chinese firm Huawei.

    Trump declared the emergency in the form of an executive order that says foreign adversaries are exploiting vulnerabilities in U.S. telecommunications technology and services. It points to economic and industrial espionage as areas of particular concern.

    “The President has made it clear that this Administration will do what it takes to keep America safe and prosperous, and to protect America from foreign adversaries who are actively and increasingly creating and exploiting vulnerabilities in information and communications technology infrastructure and services in the United States,” White House press secretary Sarah Sanders said in a statement.

    The order authorizes the commerce secretary to block transactions involving communications technologies built by companies controlled by a foreign adversary that put U.S. security at “unacceptable” risk — or pose a threat of espionage or sabotage to networks that underpin the day-to-day running of vital public services.

    Wednesday’s announcement was expected nearly a year ago and comes as neither Washington nor Beijing appears willing to back down in their ongoing economic dispute. The National Economic Council, which had blocked the move for months, dropped its objection as trade talks hit an impasse, one official said.

    Trump on China trade war: ‘We always win’

    President Trump on May 14 called the escalating trade fight between the United States and China “a little squabble.” (Photo: Jabin Botsford/The Washington Post)

    Trump’s executive order does not immediately exclude any specific companies or countries but certainly will not lessen tensions with Beijing. It is consistent with an increasingly aggressive tack against China in which Trump has used tariffs as economic weapons, a tactic that he believes to be popular with his political base.

    The move also boosts the administration’s somewhat uphill effort to persuade allies and partners in Europe to bar Huawei, which officials say is beholden to the Chinese government, from their next-generation 5G wireless networks.

    The order is not restricted to any one technology, such as 5G, but instead covers a swath of information communications technologies. That could invite a legal challenge from companies who believe it is overly broad, officials and analysts say.

    Trump declared the emergency under the International Emergency Economic Powers Act, a 1977 law used by every president since Jimmy Carter to impose sanctions on countries such as Iran and Russia. It gives the president broad authority over economic activity.

    Pompeo: Each country can make up own mind about 5G technology

    A reporter in London asked Secretary of State Mike Pompeo how working with Huawei could affect the "special relationship" between Britain and the United States. (Reuters)

    Trump’s executive order instructs the commerce secretary to develop an enforcement regime and permits the secretary to name companies or technologies that could be barred, according to officials.

    Should that happen, said Paul Rosenzweig, a former homeland security official in the George W. Bush administration, the banned firm “would assuredly sue.” Rosenzweig, now a senior fellow with the R Street Institute, a policy group that advocates free markets, said congressional action to bar a specific company probably would have a better chance at withstanding legal scrutiny.

    The order says that, although an open investment climate is generally positive, the United States needs to do more to protect the security of its networks. The idea is to have an “in case of emergency, break glass” authority, said one U.S. official who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the order before it was released...... (continued in next post)





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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,473
    edited May 2019

    (continued from last post) ... And though the president already can veto proposed acquisitions of American companies by foreign buyers if he believes they endanger national security, the government lacks the authority to intervene in specific transactions deemed to pose such a risk.

    “There are other levers we have, based more on contracting influence and power of the purse, but this would be more of an explicit exclusionary authority,” said an official familiar with the matter.

    Last year Trump signed a law that barred the federal government and its contractors from doing business with Huawei and several other Chinese companies, on national security grounds. And the country’s four major telecom carriers have committed to the federal government that they will not use Huawei equipment in their networks.

    But this new order, once implemented, would establish a national policy applying to commercial entities outside the U.S. government and permits the commerce secretary to name the countries and organizations subject to the restrictions, as well as the technologies at issue. The order also would permit the secretary to direct the timing and manner of how U.S. companies would cease using such equipment, officials said.

    A number of rural carriers use Huawei in their networks as a lower-cost alternative to European companies such as Nokia and Ericsson. The Federal Communications Commission is preparing a rule that is likely to restrict federal subsidies for carriers that use Huawei gear, and the rural carriers have told the government that replacing Huawei is a cost they cannot afford.

    A number of European officials in recent months have expressed consternation that the United States is pressing them to block Huawei from their planned 5G networks while not having officially banned the company. This order helps counter that objection, officials said.

    Security officials say the issue is one of national security, not trade. But the two inevitably have become linked as China’s quest to dominate advanced technologies in the global market has prompted significant concerns about the potential for espionage or sabotage.

    Trump, unlike most previous presidents, has frequently relied on national security arguments in his bid to reshape U.S. trading relationships, demonstrating a willingness to stretch legal authorities beyond their customary bounds.

    Last year, for instance, he cited a little-used national security provision of a 1962 law to impose tariffs on imported steel and aluminum. He also has ordered the Commerce Department to investigate doing the same on foreign-made automobiles and auto parts.

    The national emergency declaration comes a day after a congressional hearing in which senators from both parties joined administration officials in calling out the risks of doing business with a company such as Huawei. They emphasized that the problem was less about the company than the authoritarian country whose system of laws, which lacks due process and transparency, it must obey.

    “It’s not about overseeing Huawei. It’s about overseeing China,” Sen. Lindsey O. Graham (R-S.C.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said during the hearing on 5G security.

    “This is a single-party government,” said Christopher Krebs, director of the Department of Homeland Security’s Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency. “Everything that flows from the central party is a manifestation of their philosophy.’


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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    benjs said:
    benjs said:
    C’mon Pete. If true it’s nit that generational. Please. And I like Pete, but this is stupid 
    Yeah a better response would be something like "My friends called me Alfred E. Neuman in middle school. So real clever, Mr. President."

    It's crazy, but this sort of thing actually counts in the age of Trump; how you respond to insults. This response by Pete, is the third instance I can think of where Trump made an insult, and the democrat on the receiving end either didn't respond or responded in a typical politican way.....because they're professional and Trump is so immature. It makes them look afraid of him. It's sad to watch. 

    2016 Debate
    Hillary: It's a good thing that someone with the temperament of Donald Trump isn't in charge of the laws in this country.
    Trump: Because you'd be in jail.
    Hilary: [Smug smirk because it's beneath her to respond to that]

    Better response: "You know something, Donald? YOU are the one that should be in jail. You rip off contractors, your rip of investors, and you cheat on your taxes!"

    Trump posts a video of Joe Biden talking, with another Biden creepily massaging the first Biden's neck.
    Biden tweet in response: "I see that you are on the job and presidential, as always."

    Better response: "Yeah massages are one thing but at least I don't grab women by the pussy!"

    Alright maybe he shouldn't have said EXACTLY that, but give me something! On the job and presidential as always? What's next? Sticks and stones may break my bones but names will never hurt me? 

    That's one thing I'll give Elizabeth Warren, she seems up for a fight. Sanders too. The rest of them? I'm not so sure...

    I don’t see this as him responding as if he’s afraid, I see it as him responding in a way that highlights Trump’s age and makes him look less relevant. I don’t have an issue with it. 
    The idea seemed to be to push his "Im a new generation, the first president to grow in in the post 9/11/school shooting US" thing. 

    But it also made him come off as someone who never had friends, and just studied all day in his room with his taped glasses growing up. Which to me will be his problem to normal folks - "look at me I know seven languages and studied at Harvard".

    You can never write a good character in fiction without writing in flaws. 


    Not knowing about MAD magazine?
    This is a smart dude, who has been consistent in unwillingness to play 'the game' with Trump. I think this is more about that than not knowing who Neumann is. 
    Here's (in my opinion) a better response - is he "playing the game" ?

    https://youtu.be/R5Xk7q01SSQ
    Fair! A few cheap shots, so maybe I'm wrong and he doesn't know who Alfred E. Neumann is. <sarcasm> I suppose he's not worthy of a vote then. </sarcasm>
    You keep skewing the narratives.

    It was just a simple question from me, to you.
    I was actually serious with the start of my sentence, I was saying I may be wrong and agreeing with you that he demonstrated not being above playing the game. That was my simple answer to your simple question, no narrative attached.

    My sarcastic comment was more me incredulously wondering why we're discussing this still, or why any moderately intelligent human should be swayed one way or another by such an insignificant event. Nothing against you personally by the way - I just get sad at how pathetically petty we've all become, myself included.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    i'm 44 and had to look up who alfred e neumann was. i was never a mad magazine guy. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    I work at a mortgage company and spoke with a guy in Florida who has an adjustable rate that is adjusting in August. Rates have dipped recently but long term trend is for them to rise so it's a good time to take care of it now.

    Anyway, I was explaining this to the guy and was telling him this is a great time to get his rate fixed at a lower rate than his current adjustable and keep him on the same term yada yada yada.

    His response was something of the effect of "Well due to the great Trump economy I think rates are going to go down again so I'm gonna keep my adjustable." 

    I explained that when the economy is doing well, it usually means rates rise. Then he asked if that's true then why is the president is telling the fed to lower rates? I said I think it's either because he doesn't know how it works or it's just for political purposes. Then he says something like "well let's hope the democrats don''t take over and drive the economy into the ground like they did the last time." I was like "sir, that great recession occurred back in the Bush administration."

    Then he say curse word... I hang up!

    AMERICA!
    CARTRIGHT!!!!
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    PJ_Soul said:
    WHAT. THE. FUCK??!!

    White House escalates war against Facebook, Google and Twitter with a campaign asking users to share stories of censorship


    The White House on Wednesday escalated its war against social media when it announced an unprecedented campaign asking Internet users to share stories of when they thought they were censored by Facebook, Google’s YouTube and Twitter, tapping into President Trump’s long-running claim that tech giants are biased against conservatives.

    The effort, which the White House said on Twitter was directed at users “no matter your views,” seeks to collect names, contact information and other details from Americans. The survey asks whether they have encountered problems on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter or other social media sites — companies the president frequently takes aim at for alleged political censorship.

    “Too many Americans have seen their accounts suspended, banned, or fraudulently reported for unclear ‘violations’ of user policies,” the survey claims.

    In seeking supporters’ contact information, the White House also asked for permission to send email newsletters about “President Trump’s fight for free speech.”

    The companies have long denied that they engage in political censorship. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Facebook and Google also did not immediately respond. In a statement, Twitter stressed it enforces its rules “impartially for all users, regardless of their background or political affiliation.”

    The effort marks Trump’s latest attack on the tech industry, which he has threatened to regulate in response to allegations that they censor right-leaning users and websites online. But it comes on the same day that the White House opted against supporting an international campaign to crack down on hate speech and other forms of extremism online out of concerns that even the symbolic pact could create free-speech headaches. The Christchurch call is named after a city in New Zealand where an attacker inspired by online hate killed 50 people.

    The form asks people to detail whether Facebook, Twitter, Google-owned YouTube or others “took action against your account,” and asked for user names or links to users’ profiles or specific posts, such as tweets, that may have been flagged by one of the tech companies. The White House also asked to see copies of notifications that social-media sites sent to users when they take action against their posts, photos or videos.




    That is all kinds of stupid.

    His base will love it.
  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,926
    I work at a mortgage company and spoke with a guy in Florida who has an adjustable rate that is adjusting in August. Rates have dipped recently but long term trend is for them to rise so it's a good time to take care of it now.

    Anyway, I was explaining this to the guy and was telling him this is a great time to get his rate fixed at a lower rate than his current adjustable and keep him on the same term yada yada yada.

    His response was something of the effect of "Well due to the great Trump economy I think rates are going to go down again so I'm gonna keep my adjustable." 

    I explained that when the economy is doing well, it usually means rates rise. Then he asked if that's true then why is the president is telling the fed to lower rates? I said I think it's either because he doesn't know how it works or it's just for political purposes. Then he says something like "well let's hope the democrats don''t take over and drive the economy into the ground like they did the last time." I was like "sir, that great recession occurred back in the Bush administration."

    Then he say curse word... I hang up!

    AMERICA!
    That’s funny shit. I’m in the same business and have had similar conversations trying to educate someone who clearly knows it all. You can’t fix stupid, regardless of political affiliation. But regarding Trump, pushing the Fed to artificially lower rates is comical.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    PJ_Soul said:
    WHAT. THE. FUCK??!!

    White House escalates war against Facebook, Google and Twitter with a campaign asking users to share stories of censorship


    The White House on Wednesday escalated its war against social media when it announced an unprecedented campaign asking Internet users to share stories of when they thought they were censored by Facebook, Google’s YouTube and Twitter, tapping into President Trump’s long-running claim that tech giants are biased against conservatives.

    The effort, which the White House said on Twitter was directed at users “no matter your views,” seeks to collect names, contact information and other details from Americans. The survey asks whether they have encountered problems on Facebook, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter or other social media sites — companies the president frequently takes aim at for alleged political censorship.

    “Too many Americans have seen their accounts suspended, banned, or fraudulently reported for unclear ‘violations’ of user policies,” the survey claims.

    In seeking supporters’ contact information, the White House also asked for permission to send email newsletters about “President Trump’s fight for free speech.”

    The companies have long denied that they engage in political censorship. The White House did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Facebook and Google also did not immediately respond. In a statement, Twitter stressed it enforces its rules “impartially for all users, regardless of their background or political affiliation.”

    The effort marks Trump’s latest attack on the tech industry, which he has threatened to regulate in response to allegations that they censor right-leaning users and websites online. But it comes on the same day that the White House opted against supporting an international campaign to crack down on hate speech and other forms of extremism online out of concerns that even the symbolic pact could create free-speech headaches. The Christchurch call is named after a city in New Zealand where an attacker inspired by online hate killed 50 people.

    The form asks people to detail whether Facebook, Twitter, Google-owned YouTube or others “took action against your account,” and asked for user names or links to users’ profiles or specific posts, such as tweets, that may have been flagged by one of the tech companies. The White House also asked to see copies of notifications that social-media sites sent to users when they take action against their posts, photos or videos.




    jesus. i guess no one in the white house has a fucking clue what free speech actually covers. good to know. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




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