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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    If you’re ever subpoenaed or asked to provide documents or other evidence, just tell law enforcement that Lindsay Graham and CYA Barr made it clear you don’t have to comply.
    Will that work for Canadians as well?  
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    If you’re ever subpoenaed or asked to provide documents or other evidence, just tell law enforcement that Lindsay Graham and CYA Barr made it clear you don’t have to comply.
    Will that work for Canadians as well?  
    You can try it but I don’t think Canada has lost its legal moral compass yet?
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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,430
    wasnt gonna start a new thread just for this, so it falls here being an administration thing in my book.

    Steven Mnuchin has his name PRINTED OUT  as his signature on bills produced on his watch. Tacky as fuck.....
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mickeyrat said:
    wasnt gonna start a new thread just for this, so it falls here being an administration thing in my book.

    Steven Mnuchin has his name PRINTED OUT  as his signature on bills produced on his watch. Tacky as fuck.....
    Wow, that’s a bit lazy and separated in my book.
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,625
    lol the Precious Constitution is dead a meaningless piece of paper , he has trampled it to death and Democrats have no answers they are cooked and he will be re-elected at least three more terms and then Jr will be next ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    edited May 2019
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
    Seriously, do you or would you claim Team Trump Treason as your president? Because before today, I hadn’t publicly stated as such, although it should be obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention,  and yet I, and I’m assuming you haven’t either, has said as much. That leaves one to assume things about other posters and/or the casual reader who doesn’t post. I don’t like assuming things about other people and if I remember correctly, only one poster I know of has posted that they voted for Team Trump Treason. I’m sorry that my posting of my opinions on a band’s forum appears to offend you? Enjoy your Friday night. I’ve got to dim the lights and adjust the brightness on my monitor.        
                                   
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
    Seriously, do you or would you claim Team Trump Treason as your president? Because before today, I hadn’t publicly stated as such, although it should be obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention,  and yet I, and I’m assuming you haven’t either, has said as much. That leaves one to assume things about other posters and/or the casual reader who doesn’t post. I don’t like assuming things about other people and if I remember correctly, only one poster I know of has posted that they voted for Team Trump Treason. I’m sorry that my posting of my opinions on a band’s forum appears to offend you? Enjoy your Friday night. I’ve got to dim the lights and adjust the brightness on my monitor.                                      
    Far from it. You're amusing. And I haven't given you the "you live in your parent's basement and sit on your computer all day" treatment like others have so I don't know why you went with that "dim the lights, adjust the monitor" line. 
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  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
    Seriously, do you or would you claim Team Trump Treason as your president? Because before today, I hadn’t publicly stated as such, although it should be obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention,  and yet I, and I’m assuming you haven’t either, has said as much. That leaves one to assume things about other posters and/or the casual reader who doesn’t post. I don’t like assuming things about other people and if I remember correctly, only one poster I know of has posted that they voted for Team Trump Treason. I’m sorry that my posting of my opinions on a band’s forum appears to offend you? Enjoy your Friday night. I’ve got to dim the lights and adjust the brightness on my monitor.                                      
    Far from it. You're amusing. And I haven't given you the "you live in your parent's basement and sit on your computer all day" treatment like others have so I don't know why you went with that "dim the lights, adjust the monitor" line. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    dignin said:

    Trump Administration to LGBT Couples: Your ‘Out of Wedlock’ Kids Aren’t Citizens

    Children of U.S. citizens are falling victim to a policy that de-recognizes their parents’ marriage—and strips them of their birthright citizenship.

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/state-department-to-lgbt-married-couples-your-out-of-wedlock-kids-arent-citizens

    complete insanity 
    My president would never do such a thing. Anyone still doubting the nazi/fascist comparisons? Hey, but Team Trump Treason is okay with Pete’s husband being up on stage with him so it all works out. Even Steven.
    Who are you even talking to? You know I think those comparisons are fair, and that nearly everyone else here does to. This goes back to me comparing you to a talking-head in the other thread. You're preaching to people that don't even disagree. 
    Seriously, do you or would you claim Team Trump Treason as your president? Because before today, I hadn’t publicly stated as such, although it should be obvious to anyone who’s been paying attention,  and yet I, and I’m assuming you haven’t either, has said as much. That leaves one to assume things about other posters and/or the casual reader who doesn’t post. I don’t like assuming things about other people and if I remember correctly, only one poster I know of has posted that they voted for Team Trump Treason. I’m sorry that my posting of my opinions on a band’s forum appears to offend you? Enjoy your Friday night. I’ve got to dim the lights and adjust the brightness on my monitor.                                      
    Far from it. You're amusing. And I haven't given you the "you live in your parent's basement and sit on your computer all day" treatment like others have so I don't know why you went with that "dim the lights, adjust the monitor" line. 
    Why thank you, thank you, thank you very much. I’ll be here all week. And in a basement near you soon. Cleary, IN the week of June 3rd, followed by Rivington, NJ the week of the 10th and Beacon, NY the week of the 17th. Back home on the podcast the week of the 24th. Download it from iTunes.

    I try but I have to tell you that this is serious shit with the ability to forever alter politics and elections, for the worse, for generations. If Team Trump Treason gets away with this shit, and congress and the courts allow it, I fear what future Administrations might do, both repub and dem. This investigation and complicity will be studied in poly sci classes for years to come. Shit ain’t good and it’s getting worse and it’s being met with “meh.” Hitler took 15 years. We’re 2-3 years in.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited May 2019
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,235
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
    I don’t have faith in the American electorate, particularly with the all out stops the repubs will pull, to solve the problem. They gave us Team Trump Treason the first time so it’s safe to say they could “whoops” do it again. The dem congress needs to do its constitutionally mandated job, period.
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
    I don’t have faith in the American electorate, particularly with the all out stops the repubs will pull, to solve the problem. They gave us Team Trump Treason the first time so it’s safe to say they could “whoops” do it again. The dem congress needs to do its constitutionally mandated job, period.
    Well remember that most prominent republicans fought Trump tooth-and-nail before he won the primary. They didn't want him, but they wanted their side to win. You can criticize the repubs' morality for doing a 180 and bowing down to Trump, but politically, ya can't blame them. If a loon hijacked the democratic primary, I think the dems would fall in line the same way the repubs have.

    I personally put more blame on the democrats for Trump than I do the republicans for two reasons. 1) For losing the 2016 election. I don't care about excuses anyone may have (Russian interference, sexism against Hillary, etc.). They still should have beaten Trump. 2) As you point out, their inability (or refusal....or fear) to do their constitutionally mandated job
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  • ikiT
    ikiT USA Posts: 11,059
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
    I don’t have faith in the American electorate, particularly with the all out stops the repubs will pull, to solve the problem. They gave us Team Trump Treason the first time so it’s safe to say they could “whoops” do it again. The dem congress needs to do its constitutionally mandated job, period.
    Well remember that most prominent republicans fought Trump tooth-and-nail before he won the primary. They didn't want him, but they wanted their side to win. You can criticize the repubs' morality for doing a 180 and bowing down to Trump, but politically, ya can't blame them. If a loon hijacked the democratic primary, I think the dems would fall in line the same way the repubs have.

    I personally put more blame on the democrats for Trump than I do the republicans for two reasons. 1) For losing the 2016 election. I don't care about excuses anyone may have (Russian interference, sexism against Hillary, etc.). They still should have beaten Trump. 2) As you point out, their inability (or refusal....or fear) to do their constitutionally mandated job
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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,994
    edited May 2019
    ikiT said:
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
    I don’t have faith in the American electorate, particularly with the all out stops the repubs will pull, to solve the problem. They gave us Team Trump Treason the first time so it’s safe to say they could “whoops” do it again. The dem congress needs to do its constitutionally mandated job, period.
    Well remember that most prominent republicans fought Trump tooth-and-nail before he won the primary. They didn't want him, but they wanted their side to win. You can criticize the repubs' morality for doing a 180 and bowing down to Trump, but politically, ya can't blame them. If a loon hijacked the democratic primary, I think the dems would fall in line the same way the repubs have.

    I personally put more blame on the democrats for Trump than I do the republicans for two reasons. 1) For losing the 2016 election. I don't care about excuses anyone may have (Russian interference, sexism against Hillary, etc.). They still should have beaten Trump. 2) As you point out, their inability (or refusal....or fear) to do their constitutionally mandated job
    Yeah, I don't.
    Yeah, that's fine. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    ikiT said:
    On second thought, maybe not THAT amusing.

    I agree with your second paragraph for the most part. Concerning the "meh" feeling you're saying people have towards all of this, while some people just love Trump and don't care, I think most understand everything that's going on and are concerned. But for those people, I don't think it's a "Meh, who cares that Trump did INSERT ILLEGAL ACTION HERE" sort of thing. I think it's a "Meh, every liberal said that this Mueller was going to take Trump down and that didn't happen. Guess I'll just wait to vote against him in 2020." 
    I don’t have faith in the American electorate, particularly with the all out stops the repubs will pull, to solve the problem. They gave us Team Trump Treason the first time so it’s safe to say they could “whoops” do it again. The dem congress needs to do its constitutionally mandated job, period.
    Well remember that most prominent republicans fought Trump tooth-and-nail before he won the primary. They didn't want him, but they wanted their side to win. You can criticize the repubs' morality for doing a 180 and bowing down to Trump, but politically, ya can't blame them. If a loon hijacked the democratic primary, I think the dems would fall in line the same way the repubs have.

    I personally put more blame on the democrats for Trump than I do the republicans for two reasons. 1) For losing the 2016 election. I don't care about excuses anyone may have (Russian interference, sexism against Hillary, etc.). They still should have beaten Trump. 2) As you point out, their inability (or refusal....or fear) to do their constitutionally mandated job
    Yeah, I don't.
    Yeah, that's fine. 
    I understand your point,  but that is absolving the voters and politicians for eliminating morality from the equation.  It makes no sense to blame the Democrats who voted for Hillary,  for Trump.  Blame the ones that stayed home,  particularly the Bernie backers if anything. 
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