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PJ_Soul said:This stuff legitimately scares me. I wish more people would start thinking of this kind of rhetoric as a serious problem and not just a ridiculous joke. I understand the temptation to stick with the latter, but it's bad news to not take it seriously IMO. This shit is being spewed on what is for some reason called by many a legit news network. Many many millions are truly going for it.Lou Dobbs says Trump is God's choice. Mentions war. Rants about Mueller report. Video included.Lou Dobbs used his Fox Business show on Thursday to rant about the Mueller report, which contained a number of damning revelations about President Donald Trump.
He then suggested that Trump could have been sent by God.
“This is a war,” said the host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” during a discussion with contributor Tammy Bruce about the release of the redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible Trump campaign collusion.
“The president likes to call it a hoax but this was a conspiracy to overthrow the president of the United States,” Dobbs continued. “And this is bad stuff. And, to your point, any other person in the White House would have folded up like a cheap lawn chair amongst the last several presidents.”
Dobbs, a staunch supporter of the president, then made his divine claim:
Pastor Robert Jeffress always talks about this president. God sent this president. He is a person of providence. And I’ll tell you the evidence is accumulating mightily to support the pastor’s views.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made a similar claim earlier this week.
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It's gonna be a long weekend for Don Trump.
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Who here hasn’t taken this seriously? Other than Team Trump Treason supporters?PJ_Soul said:This stuff legitimately scares me. I wish more people would start thinking of this kind of rhetoric as a serious problem and not just a ridiculous joke. I understand the temptation to stick with the latter, but it's bad news to not take it seriously IMO. This shit is being spewed on what is for some reason called by many a legit news network. Many many millions are truly going for it.Lou Dobbs says Trump is God's choice. Mentions war. Rants about Mueller report. Video included.Lou Dobbs used his Fox Business show on Thursday to rant about the Mueller report, which contained a number of damning revelations about President Donald Trump.
He then suggested that Trump could have been sent by God.
“This is a war,” said the host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” during a discussion with contributor Tammy Bruce about the release of the redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible Trump campaign collusion.
“The president likes to call it a hoax but this was a conspiracy to overthrow the president of the United States,” Dobbs continued. “And this is bad stuff. And, to your point, any other person in the White House would have folded up like a cheap lawn chair amongst the last several presidents.”
Dobbs, a staunch supporter of the president, then made his divine claim:
Pastor Robert Jeffress always talks about this president. God sent this president. He is a person of providence. And I’ll tell you the evidence is accumulating mightily to support the pastor’s views.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made a similar claim earlier this week.
Unfortunately, I do anticipate some kind of violence occurring in an effort to save the Messiah as the investigations continue and Team Trump Treason becomes further unhinged. I’m personally really looking forward to congressional hearings and presidential debates. Guaranteed Team Trump Treason won’t debate unless they take the Team Mueller report off the table.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I’d put money on Trump not debating at all this election, mueller report or not.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who here hasn’t taken this seriously? Other than Team Trump Treason supporters?PJ_Soul said:This stuff legitimately scares me. I wish more people would start thinking of this kind of rhetoric as a serious problem and not just a ridiculous joke. I understand the temptation to stick with the latter, but it's bad news to not take it seriously IMO. This shit is being spewed on what is for some reason called by many a legit news network. Many many millions are truly going for it.Lou Dobbs says Trump is God's choice. Mentions war. Rants about Mueller report. Video included.Lou Dobbs used his Fox Business show on Thursday to rant about the Mueller report, which contained a number of damning revelations about President Donald Trump.
He then suggested that Trump could have been sent by God.
“This is a war,” said the host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” during a discussion with contributor Tammy Bruce about the release of the redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible Trump campaign collusion.
“The president likes to call it a hoax but this was a conspiracy to overthrow the president of the United States,” Dobbs continued. “And this is bad stuff. And, to your point, any other person in the White House would have folded up like a cheap lawn chair amongst the last several presidents.”
Dobbs, a staunch supporter of the president, then made his divine claim:
Pastor Robert Jeffress always talks about this president. God sent this president. He is a person of providence. And I’ll tell you the evidence is accumulating mightily to support the pastor’s views.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made a similar claim earlier this week.
Unfortunately, I do anticipate some kind of violence occurring in an effort to save the Messiah as the investigations continue and Team Trump Treason becomes further unhinged. I’m personally really looking forward to congressional hearings and presidential debates. Guaranteed Team Trump Treason won’t debate unless they take the Team Mueller report off the table.Detroit 2000, Detroit 2003 1-2, Grand Rapids VFC 2004, Philly 2005, Grand Rapids 2006, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2006, Lollapalooza 2007, Detroit Eddie Solo 2011, Detroit 2014, Chicago 2016 1-2, Chicago 2018 1-2, Ohana Encore 2021 1-2, Chicago Eddie/Earthlings 2022 1-2, Nashville 2022, St. Louis 2022
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I wasn't talking about anyone here specifically, bit FWIW, team trump treason supporters are people too, lol. They actually count. They more than anyone aren't taking thisnshit seriously, and that is the biggest problem. But I was talking in general. People at large absolutely aren't taking it seriously enough IMO. Not nearly enough. I think the majority of people still have their heads buried in the sand, and just waiting for all the craziness to pass. Many are more laughing nervously at this stuff or feeling annoyed than they are really taking it seriously as something that has true potential to alter America permanently.Halifax2TheMax said:
Who here hasn’t taken this seriously? Other than Team Trump Treason supporters?PJ_Soul said:This stuff legitimately scares me. I wish more people would start thinking of this kind of rhetoric as a serious problem and not just a ridiculous joke. I understand the temptation to stick with the latter, but it's bad news to not take it seriously IMO. This shit is being spewed on what is for some reason called by many a legit news network. Many many millions are truly going for it.Lou Dobbs says Trump is God's choice. Mentions war. Rants about Mueller report. Video included.Lou Dobbs used his Fox Business show on Thursday to rant about the Mueller report, which contained a number of damning revelations about President Donald Trump.
He then suggested that Trump could have been sent by God.
“This is a war,” said the host of “Lou Dobbs Tonight” during a discussion with contributor Tammy Bruce about the release of the redacted version of special counsel Robert Mueller’s report into Russian interference in the 2016 election and possible Trump campaign collusion.
“The president likes to call it a hoax but this was a conspiracy to overthrow the president of the United States,” Dobbs continued. “And this is bad stuff. And, to your point, any other person in the White House would have folded up like a cheap lawn chair amongst the last several presidents.”
Dobbs, a staunch supporter of the president, then made his divine claim:
Pastor Robert Jeffress always talks about this president. God sent this president. He is a person of providence. And I’ll tell you the evidence is accumulating mightily to support the pastor’s views.
Former Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) made a similar claim earlier this week.
Unfortunately, I do anticipate some kind of violence occurring in an effort to save the Messiah as the investigations continue and Team Trump Treason becomes further unhinged. I’m personally really looking forward to congressional hearings and presidential debates. Guaranteed Team Trump Treason won’t debate unless they take the Team Mueller report off the table.
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Why no mention of “totally exonerated?”
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And it’s going to be a wonderful May Day with Putin on the ritz dancing around the May pole.
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From the White House Office of Propaganda:
Mainstream Media Doubles Down on Trump Conspiracies
“Mainstream media coverage of the Russia-collusion story has been dead wrong for two years, yet the effort to smear President Trump continues — even after Thursday’s release of the Mueller report,” David Harsanyi writes in the New York Post.
“In a responsible media environment, journalists who had been misled by their partisan sources for years would be clamoring to find out how the entire country could be plunged into a 22-month-long destabilizing investigation that amounted to nothing more than a now-debunked conspiracy theory . . . Instead, they’re doubling down.”
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“President Trump has every right to feel liberated. What the report shows is that he endured a special-counsel probe that was relentlessly, at times farcically, obsessed with taking him out,” Kimberly Strassel writes in The Wall Street Journal. “What stands out is just how diligently and creatively the special counsel’s legal minds worked to implicate someone in Trump World on something Russia- or obstruction-of-justice-related. And how—even with all its overweening power and aggressive tactics—it still struck out.”
“While the Democrats continue to cling to the fantasy that evidence of collusion really is lurking somewhere in the dark recesses of the Mueller report, the report itself makes it clearer than ever what any unbiased observer of the Russia story has been able to see for more than a year: Robert Mueller knew very early on in his investigation that there was no collusion,” former U.S. Attorney Joseph diGenova writes in Fox News.
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I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.0 -
Wow, that is really disheartening to hear. I don't like Bernie, but good god, to say you'd vote Trump, again, over him? Yikes! Sorry, I know you are about to get flamed in here, but I can't understand your rationale.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.It's a hopeless situation...0 -
Nothing surprises me coming from you , I feel for you !mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
His lack of a moral compass shield be disqualifying.tbergs said:
Wow, that is really disheartening to hear. I don't like Bernie, but good god, to say you'd vote Trump, again, over him? Yikes! Sorry, I know you are about to get flamed in here, but I can't understand your rationale.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
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Just touching on the first part, you have misunderstood the state of the evidence and the reasons for not proceeding with obstruction charges. If you really did watch a lot of coverage and you still don’t understand why, I don’t know how else to explain it to you.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
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So the fact he benefited by something that, according to the report, he had no part of is impeachable? Is that what you're saying? How does that make sense?mrussel1 said:
His lack of a moral compass shield be disqualifying.tbergs said:
Wow, that is really disheartening to hear. I don't like Bernie, but good god, to say you'd vote Trump, again, over him? Yikes! Sorry, I know you are about to get flamed in here, but I can't understand your rationale.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
His desire to capitalize politically on a crime by an adversarial govt is impeachable even if not criminal.
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I don't think anyone (other than his most devoted fans) would disagree that he's impeachable. It's just not worth broaching while the GOP controls the senate.mrussel1 said:
His lack of a moral compass shield be disqualifying.tbergs said:
Wow, that is really disheartening to hear. I don't like Bernie, but good god, to say you'd vote Trump, again, over him? Yikes! Sorry, I know you are about to get flamed in here, but I can't understand your rationale.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
His desire to capitalize politically on a crime by an adversarial govt is impeachable even if not criminal.
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Because as the candidate for POTUS his first duty is to protect the integrity of our democracy and protect the citizens. He failed to do that. That's impeachable.mace1229 said:
So the fact he benefited by something that, according to the report, he had no part of is impeachable? Is that what you're saying? How does that make sense?mrussel1 said:
His lack of a moral compass shield be disqualifying.tbergs said:
Wow, that is really disheartening to hear. I don't like Bernie, but good god, to say you'd vote Trump, again, over him? Yikes! Sorry, I know you are about to get flamed in here, but I can't understand your rationale.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
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No this is incorrect. There was plenty of evidence that there was collusion. It is a lot of the same stuff that has been documented by the so called fake news over the last two years. What there wasn't evidence of is proof of conspiracy, which is the legal standard for a crime.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
And Mueller documented an abundance of evidence about his efforts to obstruct justice. Did you read the report? There are 10 instances laid out in explicit detail. Mueller also says the reason he didn't charge him was not because there wasn't evidence but simply because of the DOJ rules against charging a sitting president--meaning if he wasn't the president, he likely would've been charged. This means he was leaving it up to congress to decide if it's an impeachable offense. Kind of the same thing that happened with Nixon.
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Trump is just hoping people watch Fox News instead of reading the actual report.oftenreading said:
Just touching on the first part, you have misunderstood the state of the evidence and the reasons for not proceeding with obstruction charges. If you really did watch a lot of coverage and you still don’t understand why, I don’t know how else to explain it to you.mace1229 said:I feel like I must be missing something here. I watched a lot of MSNBC and CNN yesterday and was thoroughly entertained by it. I know there are a lot of idiots on FOX, but I don't know why they are the only ones ever singled out, there's crazies on every cable news channel who are equally biased.
From what everyone can agree on that I can tell is Trump was exonerated from the collusion accusations and there was not enough evidence to support or disprove the obstruction accusations. Where do so many get this is going to get him impeached? I watched a segment of Rachel Maddow last night and she went on a rant about how not being able to disprove obstruction was proof that there was obstruction. Really? Since when is not proving your innocence actually proof of your guilt? Pretty much every host from CNN to MSNBC said something similar, and how this is going to bring Trump down. I just don't see it, there was nothing in the reports that I've hear to support any of that.
I think Trump is embarrassing as a president and I would like to see someone else in office next term. But this just smells like desperation at this point, that so many channels were holding out for such a bomb to drop, and when this is all they have they run with the story they wanted, not with the one they have. I hope both sides stop focusing on Trump and put some efforts into their own agendas other than focusing on taking Trump down, because if my only choices are Trump or a failed 2016 candidate (Sanders, I'm looking at you), I will probably go with Trump again.
And I am not at all surprised by the last part.www.myspace.com0
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