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  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,821
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    The little fly by is as amusing as ever!
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    Kat said:
    So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?

    why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
    Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.

    You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President.   I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.  

    One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump.  The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul?    If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes.  I knew that going into it.

    Kat said:
    So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?

    why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
    Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.

    You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President.   I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.  

    One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump.  The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul?    If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes.  I knew that going into it.

    Get worse? There’s going to be further hill investigory hearings that will likely lead to an impeachment vote. If Team Trump Treason isn’t disgraced like Nixon, he’s at least disgraced as much as or more than Bill Clinton, something that never happened to Obama. I’m not sure his fragile ego couldn’t handle it. He might nuke Nancy’s district.

    Sorry, but I don’t equate buying a shoe chewing dog with voters knowingly voting for a candidate that would violate the law during the campaign and while in office and be under 14 separate investigations as a result. The process is slow and deliberate as it should be. Remember Benghazi? Now, that was a witch hunt.
    1. Further hearings would lead to an impeachment vote, which would pass in the House, then proceed to the Senate, where the majority are Republicans who are allegiant to the voters, who are overwhelmingly distrusting of Democrats and trusting of Trump (often to the point of blind acceptance), so it then dies, and Democrats lose what meagre power they have, country gets further divided, the cesspool grows.

    2. There have been an absurd amount of opportunities to bruise Trump's ego. Fuck, all he'd have to do was search his name on Google, or watch any non-Fox channel. I haven't detected any differences in Trump's behaviours two years in, with enough opportunities for him to have felt 'disgraced'. Narcissism of Trump's degree will not allow him to see attacks as anything but 'people who aren't smart like me and just don't understand my very great direction' or 'they just don't see that the ends justify the means'. 

    Curious to hear your thoughts.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    14 ongoing investigations and an unredacted report on its way to congress. This shit is as about done as that pizza waiting for pizza dough still sitting in the 50 pound bag of flour while the oil and water and yeast wait in the mixing bowl, waiting for the dough hook to be installed.
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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,929
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    I don’t expect anything while in office but I look forward to justice being served after he’s left office. 

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    14 ongoing investigations and an unredacted report on its way to congress. This shit is as about done as that pizza waiting for pizza dough still sitting in the 50 pound bag of flour while the oil and water and yeast wait in the mixing bowl, waiting for the dough hook to be installed.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    What are you outraged about ? Whoa I guess you watched the FOX channel coverage , so I ask do you trust this president wholeheartedly and will you vote for him again in 2020 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    benjs said:
    Kat said:
    So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?

    why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
    Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.

    You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President.   I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.  

    One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump.  The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul?    If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes.  I knew that going into it.

    Kat said:
    So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?

    why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
    Team Mueller punted to Congress on the obstruction charge because Team Mueller followed DOJ policy regarding indicting a sitting president. 14 ongoing criminal investigations. This is only going to get worse.

    You keep saying this but nothing seems to get worse for the President.   I hope Trump goes to jail but at this rate it will be long after he ends his term as President.  

    One of the problems with this obstruction and impeachment is that no one expected better from Trump.  The Republicans knew they "hired" a person without a soul so why would they fire a person for acting like they have no soul?    If I get a dog whose breed is known to chew on shoes, I'm not going to get rid of it when it chews on shoes.  I knew that going into it.

    Get worse? There’s going to be further hill investigory hearings that will likely lead to an impeachment vote. If Team Trump Treason isn’t disgraced like Nixon, he’s at least disgraced as much as or more than Bill Clinton, something that never happened to Obama. I’m not sure his fragile ego couldn’t handle it. He might nuke Nancy’s district.

    Sorry, but I don’t equate buying a shoe chewing dog with voters knowingly voting for a candidate that would violate the law during the campaign and while in office and be under 14 separate investigations as a result. The process is slow and deliberate as it should be. Remember Benghazi? Now, that was a witch hunt.
    1. Further hearings would lead to an impeachment vote, which would pass in the House, then proceed to the Senate, where the majority are Republicans who are allegiant to the voters, who are overwhelmingly distrusting of Democrats and trusting of Trump (often to the point of blind acceptance), so it then dies, and Democrats lose what meagre power they have, country gets further divided, the cesspool grows.

    2. There have been an absurd amount of opportunities to bruise Trump's ego. Fuck, all he'd have to do was search his name on Google, or watch any non-Fox channel. I haven't detected any differences in Trump's behaviours two years in, with enough opportunities for him to have felt 'disgraced'. Narcissism of Trump's degree will not allow him to see attacks as anything but 'people who aren't smart like me and just don't understand my very great direction' or 'they just don't see that the ends justify the means'. 

    Curious to hear your thoughts.
    Seemed pretty bruised and cowed walking to the chopper today. His base is what you described. The other 9%-12% of indies, blue dog dems and butt hurt Bernie bros? They be disappointed and aren’t likely to vote for Team Trump Treason again in 2020, particularly if the house does its job. Do the American people really want an Administration that lies and deceives and wrecks the institutions of governance to this degree? I don’t think they do. And repubs like Romney and any others that have a soul and a conscience are going to have to make a very difficult choice because someday it might be a dem as POTUS coordinating with Cuba, Venezuela and Iran to throw an election or abuse their power and obstruct justice. Precedent can really suck.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,712
    Mueller needs to testify. And preferably before Barr does on I think May 2nd
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    Mueller needs to testify. And preferably before Barr does on I think May 2nd
    And tRUmp. His written answers were insufficient and need follow up.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    "devastating for the president..."
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  • mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,368
    To say “this shit is done” is ridiculous. If you honestly believe that, you aren’t paying attention.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mfc2006 said:
    To say “this shit is done” is ridiculous. If you honestly believe that, you aren’t paying attention.
    For real, vice hasn't even finished reading it yet!

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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,524
    mfc2006 said:
    To say “this shit is done” is ridiculous. If you honestly believe that, you aren’t paying attention.
    Just trollers being trolls in honor of the troll-in-chief being the most exonerated person in the history of exonerated people ever.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,303
    Kat said:
    Kat said:
    So if there are no impeachment proceedings after learning these findings, what does it say about our rule of law, about what a future president can do and get away with? If nothing is done, this is the level at which the bar is set, isn't it?

    why would you try to impeach when the findings are inconclusive, legally speaking?
    Impeachment is not a legal action; it's a political action. Something has to be done or this sets a bar for the country...a very sad bar. :(

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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,490
    If I had a $1 for every time I heard "this is the thing that will finally bring Trump down" I would be a billionaire.  This Mueller report is the closest thing we'll probably get but I doubt anything happens.   The Republicans in Congress are too chicken to upset their base.  Trump is their best chance to win the WH in 2020. 
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    Now why would the senate GOP do this if they believed Team Trump Treason was Fully exonerated or it was all a witch hunt?

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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mfc2006 said:
    To say “this shit is done” is ridiculous. If you honestly believe that, you aren’t paying attention.
    Just trollers being trolls in honor of the troll-in-chief being the most exonerated person in the history of exonerated people ever.

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,136
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,136
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    What are you outraged about ? Whoa I guess you watched the FOX channel coverage , so I ask do you trust this president wholeheartedly and will you vote for him again in 2020 
    I’m not outraged at all, I was being sarcastic.  As a trump supporter I enjoy the constant whining and frustration he causes those who are trying to take him down.  It’s fun to watch him wriggle out of all the attempts, like political jiu jitsu.  I think today was one of the best days for our country in a while.  I don’t trust anyone wholeheartedly, but if the election was today I would vote for him, yes.  In 2020, I don’t know,  that depends how I feel in 2020.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,136
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,258
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Yep you’re definitely a Baffoon supporter 

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  • RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,136
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Yep you’re definitely a Baffoon supporter 

    and you’re bitter.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Go USA.  Super job there, patriot.  

    The Steele dossier wasn't criminal, nor was it used by the campaign.  The emails were criminal.  Those are two clear lines.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Go USA.  Super job there, patriot.  

    The Steele dossier wasn't criminal, nor was it used by the campaign.  The emails were criminal.  Those are two clear lines.  
    Somebody ok with dirty politics complaining about the Steele Dossier and opposition research. Priceless. Maybe roles needs a bubble?
     
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,602
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Go USA.  Super job there, patriot.  

    The Steele dossier wasn't criminal, nor was it used by the campaign.  The emails were criminal.  Those are two clear lines.  
    Somebody ok with dirty politics complaining about the Steele Dossier and opposition research. Priceless. Maybe roles needs a bubble?
     
    I wouldn't say he complained, but it's false equivalency.  
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,481
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    Go USA.  Super job there, patriot.  

    The Steele dossier wasn't criminal, nor was it used by the campaign.  The emails were criminal.  Those are two clear lines.  
    Somebody ok with dirty politics complaining about the Steele Dossier and opposition research. Priceless. Maybe roles needs a bubble?
     
    I wouldn't say he complained, but it's false equivalency.  
    I wonder how the Team Trump Treason supporters would feel had Comey announced in June or July that Team Trump Treason was under FBI investigation when he announced opening an investigation into Hillary’s missing emails? 

    Well, he called the Steele Dossier bullshit despite claims within being verified. Sounds like sour grapes to me.
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via Chicago Posts: 6,786
    mrussel1 said:
    benjs said:
    You’d think that after several
    years of made up bullshit you’d stop but you just keep on looking like a crazy guy on the corner screaming at traffic. 

    This shit’s done.  The only thing that’s about to get ugly is Barr when he starts bringing down the hammer on those who started this whole joke.
    Honest question for you. No one on this thread has certainty of anything going on (since no one on this thread has access to the truth), so what do you put the odds of nefarious acts related to corruption at with respect to Trump? 
    I’d say 4/1, or 20%.  I don’t blindly think he’s innocent of everything or on the other end that he’s guilty of anything, but I do think that 70% of politicians are dirty, and he’s no exception.

    i think that the circus of division and hate brought on by his opposition because he was elected is uncalled for and tiring.  
    So do you think it is highly unethical and unpatriotic for his campaign (and him) to have knowledge of a crime against the rival political party, by an adversarial gov't, and then try to leverage that crime to their advantage, and not informing the FBI? 
    No I don’t think it’s unethical or unpatriotic at all.  No more so than Clinton paying for Steele to write his bullshit that he won’t even stand by anymore.  Politics is dirty, if you want it to be clean you’ll need to get into a bubble.
    But but but whatabout Clinton???

    So Clinton fighting dirty is ok now???


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