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  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    njnancy said:
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
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  • mfc2006
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    njnancy said:
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
    And this redacted report certainly isn’t the end of the investigation(s).
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    njnancy said:
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
    when did he say this???
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    njnancy said:
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
    when did he say this???
    Page 288, after the appointment of Team Mueller.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    holy shit. what was the context?
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  • OnWis97
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    holy shit. what was the context?
    No worries.  It wasn't about a crime.

    It was a diagnosis of dementia.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    holy shit. what was the context?
    From Notes taken by chief of staff for attorney McGann of when Team Trump Treason was told Team Mueller had been appointed as SC.
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  • njnancy
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    njnancy said:
     'Oh my God' 'This is the end of my Presidency' 'I'm f*ked'

    Not the words of an innocent man.
    when did he say this???
    When Sessions came into his office and told him that a Special Counsel had been appointed - this was Trump's response.
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    ok, I just read the context online. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    see, this is the issue with things being taken out of context. after reading what he was reacting to, it doesn't seem to me to be something that only a criminal would say. he was saying once a special counsel is appointed to investigate a president, his presidency is ground to a halt, effectively "ending" said presidency. 
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  • njnancy
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    CM189191 said:
    https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1118893292387803136
    I meant to say thank you for the link - I was able to download it easily. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    see, this is the issue with things being taken out of context. after reading what he was reacting to, it doesn't seem to me to be something that only a criminal would say. he was saying once a special counsel is appointed to investigate a president, his presidency is ground to a halt, effectively "ending" said presidency. 
    Please. He had a repub congress for two years and had he lead, could have had a ton of legislation passed. Or, had everyone involved been truthful, Team Mueller would have been finished in six months. It’s not the reaction of someone who is innocent, particularly if,

    “There was no collusion.”
    ”I don’t know any Russians.”
    ”I have nothing to hide.”
    ”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    ”We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
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  • njnancy
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    see, this is the issue with things being taken out of context. after reading what he was reacting to, it doesn't seem to me to be something that only a criminal would say. he was saying once a special counsel is appointed to investigate a president, his presidency is ground to a halt, effectively "ending" said presidency. 
    The Special Counsel was appointed to look into Russia's interference with the 2016 election. As the President, his response should have been 'hell yeah, let's get those bastards for messing with our country'. Why would he think that he personally would be f"ked if there was nothing connected to him. Why would that end his presidency?

    In another section Trump his fuming about the SC and says (paraphrased) that the investigation was not allowing him to do things with the Russians, he wanted to do things with the Russians... if I'm being generous I could attribute your interpretation to that statement. But not to considering that a cyber attack on the US should be ignored and the investigation was horrible for him. 

    And he has not to this day actually acknowledged that the Russians did what they did. 

    (I'm sure Halifax can give you the actual quote of my second paragraph, I can't go look back at the document at the moment).
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    see, this is the issue with things being taken out of context. after reading what he was reacting to, it doesn't seem to me to be something that only a criminal would say. he was saying once a special counsel is appointed to investigate a president, his presidency is ground to a halt, effectively "ending" said presidency. 
    Please. He had a repub congress for two years and had he lead, could have had a ton of legislation passed. Or, had everyone involved been truthful, Team Mueller would have been finished in six months. It’s not the reaction of someone who is innocent, particularly if,

    “There was no collusion.”
    ”I don’t know any Russians.”
    ”I have nothing to hide.”
    ”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
    ”We do everything by the book.”
    “Only the guilty plea the fifth.”
    “Very legal, very cool.”
    “Fully exonerated.”

    Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.
    I honestly think it's possible that he was/is so ignorant as to the powers of the presidency that he thought being investigated meant he had legislative shackles on him. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    njnancy said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    see, this is the issue with things being taken out of context. after reading what he was reacting to, it doesn't seem to me to be something that only a criminal would say. he was saying once a special counsel is appointed to investigate a president, his presidency is ground to a halt, effectively "ending" said presidency. 
    The Special Counsel was appointed to look into Russia's interference with the 2016 election. As the President, his response should have been 'hell yeah, let's get those bastards for messing with our country'. Why would he think that he personally would be f"ked if there was nothing connected to him. Why would that end his presidency?

    In another section Trump his fuming about the SC and says (paraphrased) that the investigation was not allowing him to do things with the Russians, he wanted to do things with the Russians... if I'm being generous I could attribute your interpretation to that statement. But not to considering that a cyber attack on the US should be ignored and the investigation was horrible for him. 

    And he has not to this day actually acknowledged that the Russians did what they did. 

    (I'm sure Halifax can give you the actual quote of my second paragraph, I can't go look back at the document at the moment).
    According to the report, "The President returned to the consequences of the appointment and said, 'Everyone tells me if you get one of these independent counsels it ruins your presidency. It takes years and years and I won't be able to do anything. This is the worst thing that ever happened to me.'"
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  • my2hands
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    I see that msnbc has had that splashed across their screen for an hour, acting like it's a smoking gun lol

    488 pages and thats the story? 
  • HughFreakingDillon
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    my2hands said:
    I see that msnbc has had that splashed across their screen for an hour, acting like it's a smoking gun lol

    488 pages and thats the story? 
    same with CNN. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 
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  • mfc2006
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    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the bigger story is that Trump TRIED to obstruct justice, but only didn't because those he asked to carry out his bidding refused to do so, knowing full well it was illegal. 
    Which is why those people were not charged. 
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