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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    It is not OK for an adult to give minor drugs...just because you felt like you might have been mature enough doesn't mean it should be tolerated, young people are impressionable.  The good news is he will be locked out of opening a Cannabis store in Ontario because of his criminal past.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    It is not OK for an adult to give minor drugs...just because you felt like you might have been mature enough doesn't mean it should be tolerated, young people are impressionable.  The good news is he will be locked out of opening a Cannabis store in Ontario because of his criminal past.
    I didn't say it was okay.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Canada's chronic shortage of legal cannabis expected to drag out for years

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195

    No.  You mean a government controlled business has a shortage?  Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.

    Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand.  I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    Canada's chronic shortage of legal cannabis expected to drag out for years

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195

    No.  You mean a government controlled business has a shortage?  Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.

    Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand.  I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
    I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada's chronic shortage of legal cannabis expected to drag out for years

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195

    No.  You mean a government controlled business has a shortage?  Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.

    Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand.  I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
    I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
    Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain.  But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate.  Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years.  I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side.  The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.

    The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis.  And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.

    It's called growing pains.  That's to be expected.  Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.  

    I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file.  She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic.  The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...

    And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada's chronic shortage of legal cannabis expected to drag out for years

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195

    No.  You mean a government controlled business has a shortage?  Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.

    Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand.  I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
    I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
    Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain.  But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate.  Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years.  I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side.  The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.

    The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis.  And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.

    It's called growing pains.  That's to be expected.  Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.  

    I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file.  She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic.  The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...

    And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
    Hahaha so to sum that up, 
    "Your pot seller likely has no idea what's going on, but listen up my pot seller says..."


    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    Canada's chronic shortage of legal cannabis expected to drag out for years

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/canada-cannabis-shortage-years-1.4988195

    No.  You mean a government controlled business has a shortage?  Maybe the should have left the entire operation to the private sector.

    Of course, common sense says put off adding edibles until you figure how to supply the demand.  I bet the black market has no shortage of weed.
    I went to a private cannabis store over the weekend and asked one of the owners about this. She says no, the issue they are dealing is NOT really about supply. The issue is that right now, the growers basically have no idea what they're doing. I asked her if this issue would be solved, and she confidently said yes, once we see the craft growers come in, over the next year or so, the whole market would straighten itself out. She said she felt confident that the quality and consistency of product, which right now is not very good, so it's actually that the most desirable product is in short supply while the market is glutted with less desirable product, will improve over time, and doesn't expect it to take more than a year or so.
    Some clerk working at a retail shop likely has no real idea what the issue is in the supply chain.  But to say growers do not know what they are doing is extremely inaccurate.  Most of Ontario's supply comes from growers who have been in business supplying medical marijuana for years.  I spoke with my own supplier before legalization and was assured that we medicinal customers still come first and foremost and they have an excellent idea at how much inventory is needed to keep supplying the medical side.  The issue that they feel will be the biggest is that they may not know for a year or 2 just how much supply will be needed to supply the recreational side of these.

    The representative I spoke with said they expect the recreational sales will be very strong at first and should level off going into year 2, this should give them an idea at how much recreational weed is needed on a month to month basis.  And as he pointed, they could easily grow enough within 6 months so they there would be no shortage, but what business wants to be stuck with 2 much inventory.

    It's called growing pains.  That's to be expected.  Until they sort out the supply issue, they should hold off on edibles.  

    I've already contacted my MP to voice my concerns about edibles coming online too soon, she will raise this with the minister in charge of the file.  She also did not think edibles will be legalized in 2019 with an election cooming, she thinks 2020 is more realistic.  The house will probably break in June and will not be recalled until after the election, she makes sense...

    And once again the advice I got is from one of Canada's largest growers...
    I told you is was the owner of the shop, not a clerk. And yes, the owner said that growers who are now supplying BCLDB with weed are not the growers who produced the best weed when it wasn't legal.
    I'm going to trust the owner of a BC cannabis store about weed being sold in BC on this one before trusting your non-professional perspective coming out of Ontario.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Legalizing medical marijuana gets strong 'no' from SC Attny General, infuriating advocates

    https://wlos.com/news/local/legalizing-medical-marijuana-gets-strong-no-from-sc-attny-general-infuriating-advocates?fbclid=IwAR0Q2Al54LLHMFkT5EjiMUt4_e-erv9ruLvSwFPkXyT6YotWXxHf6REg4ZU

    “It is the most dangerous drug because it is the most misunderstood drug,” Wilson said.

    “Attorney General Alan Wilson stood up at that press conference and said things like ‘doped and stoned’ don’t apply to medicine. Well, he’s obviously never seen people that are doped up on opioids because that’s exactly what they are.”

    Another fucking idiot politician...American politicians are some corrupt ass backward politicians on the planet...

    Here a tip for that asshole lawyer, it's OUR BODY.


    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    There was an armed robbery at one of the 3 new private pot shops in Vancouver on the weekend. One customer was shot! (he'll be okay). Obviously these places really need to invest in security measures... pisses me off though - we don't want these places to be like those jewelry pawn shops with the cages inside the doors.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    edited January 2019
    PJ_Soul said:
    There was an armed robbery at one of the 3 new private pot shops in Vancouver on the weekend. One customer was shot! (he'll be okay). Obviously these places really need to invest in security measures... pisses me off though - we don't want these places to be like those jewelry pawn shops with the cages inside the doors.
    The thieves figure it's easy money and easy targets.  I assume most of these places have floor safes and keep limited cash on hand.  I am happy to report not 1 pot shop in Ontario has been robbed...oh wait, we don't have any physical pot shops.  What a clusterfuck in Ontario.  Of all the license's issued for this region, none will be opening here in the initial openings, but Niagra Fucking Falls is getting 4.  All kinds of solutions have been offered, from allowing the LCBO and The Beer Store to sell Cannabis to allowing the producers to open stores on their premises.  Ontario will always be backwards this way.

    By the way, before legalization, there was a real nice dispensary down the road from me...reasonable prices.  They are proof that the government shouldn't be involved.  If they can open a store and keep it stocked, why can't the government stores do the same?
    Post edited by Meltdown99 on
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    'Greed' fueled Insys founder's opioid bribe scheme: prosecutor

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-insys-opioids-idUSKCN1PM11F?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c4f4b6404d301544e6027ea&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1u0gCHa-vE7EBvupIA8IyqHesGu1-f7leqgJ9hzP4CKeQPR6GNK7uUsVo

    Aren't opiods great.  I bet they spent decades in a lab before lazy government apporoves a drug that is killing thousands weekly.  You know what has been barely tested in a lab for decades, Cannabis...and people are not dropping dead from it, and there are 1000's of people who know the benefit to this weed.  Yet the US federal government keeps it illegal, because scum like this has likely lobbied a bunch of puke politicians to keep cannabis banned.
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    'Greed' fueled Insys founder's opioid bribe scheme: prosecutor

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-insys-opioids-idUSKCN1PM11F?utm_campaign=trueAnthem:+Trending+Content&utm_content=5c4f4b6404d301544e6027ea&utm_medium=trueAnthem&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1u0gCHa-vE7EBvupIA8IyqHesGu1-f7leqgJ9hzP4CKeQPR6GNK7uUsVo

    Aren't opiods great.  I bet they spent decades in a lab before lazy government apporoves a drug that is killing thousands weekly.  You know what has been barely tested in a lab for decades, Cannabis...and people are not dropping dead from it, and there are 1000's of people who know the benefit to this weed.  Yet the US federal government keeps it illegal, because scum like this has likely lobbied a bunch of puke politicians to keep cannabis banned.
    And the doctors involved need to be investigated as well...
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,523
    Legalizing medical marijuana gets strong 'no' from SC Attny General, infuriating advocates

    https://wlos.com/news/local/legalizing-medical-marijuana-gets-strong-no-from-sc-attny-general-infuriating-advocates?fbclid=IwAR0Q2Al54LLHMFkT5EjiMUt4_e-erv9ruLvSwFPkXyT6YotWXxHf6REg4ZU

    “It is the most dangerous drug because it is the most misunderstood drug,” Wilson said.

    “Attorney General Alan Wilson stood up at that press conference and said things like ‘doped and stoned’ don’t apply to medicine. Well, he’s obviously never seen people that are doped up on opioids because that’s exactly what they are.”

    Another fucking idiot politician...American politicians are some corrupt ass backward politicians on the planet...

    Here a tip for that asshole lawyer, it's OUR BODY.


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    The business of legal pot is a clanking, wheezing, government-created Rube Goldberg machine: Neil Macdonald
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/opinion/cannabis-shortages-1.4997903?fbclid=IwAR3mDMKLxQVk3LAEUIjv3VXXCIehAbaDY0I9KHluOFBn1-ZZivnzlCjo30c

    I know a pot dealer in Montreal. He's been dealing weed and hash for decades. He's an efficient capitalist; he guarantees customer satisfaction. Quality product and fast, free delivery. He's never been busted, either, to my knowledge, which I guess makes him a pretty smart dealer.

    In any case, you'd think with legalization, and all the new competition he's facing, he'd be a worried fellow. Well, he's not.

    "Are you nuts?" he laughs. "It's the government."




    Give Peas A Chance…
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,650
    I doubt he'll be in the same spot 3 years from now.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    In Ontario, if you are not a medicinal user, the only place for legal weed is online...so I kept my medicinal licence, and when I saw how fucked up Ontario is currently I renewed 6 months early...my dr is 75 and has no problem with cannabis.  So not all old people are dinosaurs...lol

    He does not like opioids and has a very strict opioid policy.  You violate his policy, no questions asked he will fire his patients.

    It is true what Neil said in the article.  I googled weed and my area, a whole page pop up of dealers guaranteeing 2-hour free delivery.  That was a month ago.  
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  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    California proposes slashing pot taxes to help regulated industry compete with black market
    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/28/calif-bill-introduced-to-slash-pot-taxes-as-legal-industry-struggles.html

    If they want to compete with Black Market they should allow Grub Hub delivery.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Some of the dispensaries here have done away with taxes (ie, eat them) altogether, and a couple are absorbing the 15% tax.  I limit myself to those places for delivery, plus they're reputable and reliable.

    One could buy a shitload of cannabis with the amount spent on taxes.