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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.
    Hard to take someone seriously who actually believes that.

    By the way, it was The Great Wall Of Dallas that made the offence function the way it did.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.


    By the way, it was The Great Wall Of Dallas that made the offence function the way it did.
    So you agree Aikman wasn't that vital to the team's success.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    Meltdown99 said:
    Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    I guess I touched a nerve when I pointed out how pedestrian the Ache Man really was.
    For those who like to say Belichick is responsible for Brady, well then certainly Jimmy Johnson is responsible for BoyTroy. And Troy had the NFL's all time rushing leader to lean on. Talk about your system QB. Ryan Leaf could have won Super Bowls with that team.
    Hard to take someone seriously who actually believes that.

     
    That's a bit of exaggeration to prove a point, Clearly Leaf would have lost to Young annually in the NFC title game.
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    Meltdown99 said:
    You can not compare QB's from the early '90s to today's wussified QB's ...
    Should we only compare Troy to his peers for Wobbie then?
    Behind guys like Chris Chandler, Rich Gannon, and Mark Brunell (won't even get into how far behind the likes of Kelly, Elway, Young and others he is). =)
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  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501

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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,082
    edited January 2019
    HesCalledDyer said:

    you forgot more likely to cheat on a pregnant girlfriend
     
    and more likely to lose to Nick Foles in the Super Bowl (100%)
  • HesCalledDyer
    HesCalledDyer Maryland Posts: 16,501
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
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  • HesCalledDyer
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
    No arguments from me.
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,082
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    HesCalledDyer said:
    Eli Manning has done it twice as many times as Foles.
    Neither of which diminsih TB as GOAT.
    No arguments from me.
    nor me.  
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,018
    edited January 2019
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
    This is just fucking sad. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
    This is just fucking sad. 
    For thread integrity, whats just fucking sad is the Kapernick situation and the whole kneeling before the anthem controversy, never mind the concussion protocol and the way the NFL treats the players.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
    This is just fucking sad. 
    For thread integrity, whats just fucking sad is the Kapernick situation and the whole kneeling before the anthem controversy, never mind the concussion protocol and the way the NFL treats the players.
    I'm talking about your creative juices coming up with "Troy Acheman" and "Tony Blowmo." Yikes.

    Getting back to football, as for Kaepernick, I don't think he's "blackballed" due to his kneeling thing. He's not in the league for the same reason Tim Tebow isn't in the league: the circus that comes with him just isn't worth the trouble. If Kaepernick was as good a player as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, forget kneeling, he could piss on the flag and his team's owner wouldn't give a shit about it. But he's not that good. It's a shame too because if there are about 90 QBs in the league, Tebow and Kaepernick are better than more than half of them. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 18,108
    Kaepernick maybe, Tebow...sorry no, Dude can't throw with any accuracy.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 43,311
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
    This is just fucking sad. 
    For thread integrity, whats just fucking sad is the Kapernick situation and the whole kneeling before the anthem controversy, never mind the concussion protocol and the way the NFL treats the players.
    I'm talking about your creative juices coming up with "Troy Acheman" and "Tony Blowmo." Yikes.

    Getting back to football, as for Kaepernick, I don't think he's "blackballed" due to his kneeling thing. He's not in the league for the same reason Tim Tebow isn't in the league: the circus that comes with him just isn't worth the trouble. If Kaepernick was as good a player as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, forget kneeling, he could piss on the flag and his team's owner wouldn't give a shit about it. But he's not that good. It's a shame too because if there are about 90 QBs in the league, Tebow and Kaepernick are better than more than half of them. 
    I prefer the term “poetic license.” I’m not the first to use it so liberally.
     
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  • Wobbie
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    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Wobbie said:
    I know all the fucking stats, Mr. Poncier. I still don’t feel like I’m seeing “greatness.” efficiency, yes. consistency, yes. QB IQ, yes. greatness, no.

    you and halifax should set up a circle jerk over old SB DVDs.
    Look at his stats from age 35 on. How old were Troy acheman and Tony Blowmo when they retired? How do they compare from age 35 on?
    This is just fucking sad. 
    For thread integrity, whats just fucking sad is the Kapernick situation and the whole kneeling before the anthem controversy, never mind the concussion protocol and the way the NFL treats the players.
    I'm talking about your creative juices coming up with "Troy Acheman" and "Tony Blowmo." Yikes.

    Getting back to football, as for Kaepernick, I don't think he's "blackballed" due to his kneeling thing. He's not in the league for the same reason Tim Tebow isn't in the league: the circus that comes with him just isn't worth the trouble. If Kaepernick was as good a player as Aaron Rodgers or Tom Brady, forget kneeling, he could piss on the flag and his team's owner wouldn't give a shit about it. But he's not that good. It's a shame too because if there are about 90 QBs in the league, Tebow and Kaepernick are better than more than half of them. 
    I prefer the term “poetic license.” I’m not the first to use it so liberally.
     
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  • Meltdown99
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    Give Peas A Chance…
  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,300
    We need another Rams - Chiefs game

    but I think it’s gonba be Chiefs/Saints
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    Meltdown99 said:

    They’re the bestest friends.

    You gottta love guys that love Donald Trump if you think McDonald is awesome. Trump supporters are people too!
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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:
    Meltdown99 said:

    They’re the bestest friends.

    You gottta love guys that love Donald Trump if you think McDonald is awesome. Trump supporters are people too!
    lol.  
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