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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    That's a friggin' haul for Wilson.
    Bet GB feels stupid for signing Wroggers now instead of trading him to Denver.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    CROJAM95 said:
    What's the fascination with the Broncos? Rodgers considered it, now Russ is going there. They haven't made the playoffs since 2015 and as noted above, the AFC West is tough-living these days. I actually thought the Steelers would be a better place for him. But whatever. 
    amazing fan base, always have a D, RB Williams looks like the real deal, receivers

    Peyton won there with more int's than tds
    Yeah seven years ago. They don't have THAT defense anymore. 

    Either way, it just makes the AFC even stronger. And my Dolphins will probably continue to miss the playoffs with a record that's the same or better than at least two NFC playoff teams. 
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    top 10 D last year with QB Play that was some of the worst in the league is pretty good. Having a terrible offense makes the D work harder, Wilson wont put them in as many bad spots, D will put him in better spots


  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Calvin Ridley suspension seems a tad ridiculous. 
    C’mon, it’s the NFL.
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  • MayDay10MayDay10 Posts: 11,727
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    People's perceptions of Wilson seem to be a lot lower than they should be (people around Philly who didn't even want to entertain the idea of a trade included). He had one of his worst seasons this year, yet still ranked in top 10 in most of the stats people look at to determine best qb's in the league. 
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    Yeah, I'd put him 3rd behind Mahomes and Allen or maybe 4th also behind Burrow.
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
  • MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
    Should be happier than GB fans.  

    Was a steep price, though.
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,882
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
    But who’s a better option? I assume you’d rather have Wilson than Lock right? And with Rodgers saying in GB, who else is there? I think you can get five good years out of Russ. 
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  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
    But who’s a better option? I assume you’d rather have Wilson than Lock right? And with Rodgers saying in GB, who else is there? I think you can get five good years out of Russ. 
    They have only drafted one good QB in franchise history so free agency and trades have done them well at times, I would love for them to draft right one more time...
  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
    But who’s a better option? I assume you’d rather have Wilson than Lock right? And with Rodgers saying in GB, who else is there? I think you can get five good years out of Russ. 
    They have only drafted one good QB in franchise history
    Tebow?
  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,529
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    People's perceptions of Wilson seem to be a lot lower than they should be (people around Philly who didn't even want to entertain the idea of a trade included). He had one of his worst seasons this year, yet still ranked in top 10 in most of the stats people look at to determine best qb's in the league. 
    Yet his QBR was the same as Carson Wentz last year and the perception of Wentz is far worse.  and yet you think Wentz stinks.
  • tempo_n_groovetempo_n_groove Posts: 40,355
    DewieCox said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Wilson is like the 8th best QB in the AFC.
    Herbert, Allen, Mahomes, maybe Burrow....who else?
    Yeah frankly I’d have him 3rd at best behind Allen and Mahomes, and 5th at worst behind the guys you listed. I can’t fathom having Lamar over him at this point. Certainly not Baker or Carr. Though at his best, Carr’s pretty good. I’d still rather have Wilson though. 
    I’m a Broncos fan and I am not happy with this signing..
    But who’s a better option? I assume you’d rather have Wilson than Lock right? And with Rodgers saying in GB, who else is there? I think you can get five good years out of Russ. 
    They have only drafted one good QB in franchise history
    Tebow?
    Ohhhhhhh, burn.

    Elway dammit.  The Colts should have never picked him, lol.
  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,173
    Wentz!
    If I had known then what I know now...

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    edited March 2022
    Wobbie said:
    Wentz!
    Commander Wentz! 

    Perfect franchise for him.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,020
    Go back to from Wentz you came!
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  • CROJAM95CROJAM95 Posts: 9,870
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 20,275
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.

    He had consistently bad judgement when he got in trouble. If a sack was imminent he had this little ball toss thing that he did instead of taking the sack. In the last several games it cost us. One was a pick six that I remember, another just a turnover. Just really stupid play.

    I never understood why he continued to do that. SUrely the QB coach would have told him to just take the fucking sack.
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  • JeBurkhardtJeBurkhardt Posts: 4,857
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.

    He had consistently bad judgement when he got in trouble. If a sack was imminent he had this little ball toss thing that he did instead of taking the sack. In the last several games it cost us. One was a pick six that I remember, another just a turnover. Just really stupid play.

    I never understood why he continued to do that. SUrely the QB coach would have told him to just take the fucking sack.
    Watching 49er games was fun yelling at Jimmy G to throw the ball to a cheerleader instead of the brain lock decisions he would make under pressure. 
  • CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.

    He had consistently bad judgement when he got in trouble. If a sack was imminent he had this little ball toss thing that he did instead of taking the sack. In the last several games it cost us. One was a pick six that I remember, another just a turnover. Just really stupid play.

    I never understood why he continued to do that. SUrely the QB coach would have told him to just take the fucking sack.
    Watching 49er games was fun yelling at Jimmy G to throw the ball to a cheerleader instead of the brain lock decisions he would make under pressure. 
    I would say out loud, on occasion, "Dont do it, Jimmy!"

    Makes some awful decisions when under pressure.
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  • WobbieWobbie Posts: 30,173
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.


    I read that Irsay really wanted him gone.

    As many talking heads pointed out, 27 TD/7 INT looks decent but he threw for less than 200 yds in 8 games….that’s NOT decent.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.

    He had consistently bad judgement when he got in trouble. If a sack was imminent he had this little ball toss thing that he did instead of taking the sack. In the last several games it cost us. One was a pick six that I remember, another just a turnover. Just really stupid play.

    I never understood why he continued to do that. SUrely the QB coach would have told him to just take the fucking sack.
    We saw stuff like that for years with the Eagles. He has the talent, but just doesn't seem to have "it" to be a true franchise qb worth the money he's making. The story yesterday about the Colts being concerned about his leadership abilities, being resistant to hard coaching, and then making these kinds of mistakes you're talking about are the same exact stories we heard here. If that situation in Indy with the coach who previously unlocked his potential didn't work out, I have a feeling Washington won't as well. 
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  • DewieCoxDewieCox Posts: 11,429
    Sounds like Reich wanted him gone too, or is at least smart enough to distance himself. Reich apologized to Irsay for stumping for Wentz.
  • Jumb0Jumb0 Posts: 910
    The problem with Wentz is he will give you 3-3/12 quarters of good football but then make a couple of boneheaded plays so bad you wonder if he's ever played football before
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Jumb0 said:
    The problem with Wentz is he will give you 3-3/12 quarters of good football but then make a couple of boneheaded plays so bad you wonder if he's ever played football before
    Can confirm as accurate. lol
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  • PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,921
    Wobbie said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.


    I read that Irsay really wanted him gone.
     
    It's just savvy football business. Colts turned a 1st and a 3rd into two 3rds, who wouldn't do that? (Shocking that a great football mind like Irsay travels around with a cache of drugs in the trunk of his car isn't it?)
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  • Poncier said:
    Wobbie said:
    CROJAM95 said:
    He must be a real Pill for the Colts to cut & run after a year.
    He isn't the worst. Honestly I thought the Colts would give him another year.


    I read that Irsay really wanted him gone.
     
    It's just savvy football business. Colts turned a 1st and a 3rd into two 3rds, who wouldn't do that? (Shocking that a great football mind like Irsay travels around with a cache of drugs in the trunk of his car isn't it?)
    Hahahaha.
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