US Christian Missionary endanger the lives of inhabitants on isolated Indian island

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  • LongestRoad
    LongestRoad Posts: 477
    edited November 2018
    Annafalk said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation. 
    I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. 
    I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on. 
    On a serious note, the island had been invaded and some were kidnapped previously. They’re protecting themselves from that and what if someone goes in and kills half of them from some illness. It’s not like he wasn’t aware of the danger. He chose to go, So he was ok with whatever Gods will. 
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Annafalk said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation. 
    I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. 
    I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on. 
    I understand what you're saying :-) 
    Not right for sure but it's how it is sadly.
    I am very curious about this tribe, I wish there can be some more non violent contact without the risk of disease being spread to the island.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited November 2018

    Annafalk said:
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    They are very primitive, it's a simple out-group seen as a threat to their safety situation. 
    I understand, I was only a bit concerned about people seem to cheer for murderers, I can understand why they did it but I wouldn't say they did right like some seem to think. 
    I feel like I'm reapeting myself, it's ok if no one understands me move on. 
    I understand what you're saying :-) 
    Not right for sure but it's how it is sadly.
    I am very curious about this tribe, I wish there can be some more non violent contact without the risk of disease being spread to the island.
    Thank you, it feels like it would be almost like time travel to see their way of life. I understand your curiosity, something tells me they are not so Interested in us as we are in them.
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,394
    I used to be an adventurer like you...then I took an arrow in the knee.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,105
    If only a good guy with gun could of been there , you know the rest !
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    josevolution said:
    If only a good guy with gun could of been there , you know the rest !
    hahaha.
    There are a lot of 'bad hombres' on that island.
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 32,105
    Thoughts_Arrive said:
    josevolution said:
    If only a good guy with gun could of been there , you know the rest !
    hahaha.
    There are a lot of 'bad hombres' on that island.
    Si lol 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited November 2018
    Jason P said:
    I used to be an adventurer like you...then I took an arrow in the knee.
    Not enough gamers on here I think, to get your jokes. Haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    In what way was he naive? 

    The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.

    So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this. 

    His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder. 

    There is nothing naive about it. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,656
    edited November 2018
    Annafalk said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Annafalk said:
    I understand that they have no knowledge. They could have just ignored him though, why justify them killing him. 
    but they have extreme fear of something they don't know. that's how primitive tribes work. you tresspass on their land, they kill you. I know it doesn't make sense to us, otherwise we'd all be murdering our mailmen, but to them, he is there to kill them, so they kill him first. 
    I it was a pack of wolves I would agree with you. I understand what you're saying I'm just saying I think they did wrong.
    What differentiates their situation from that of a pack of wolves, on your eyes?
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    edited November 2018
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    In what way was he naive? 

    The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.

    So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this. 

    His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder. 

    There is nothing naive about it. 
    He was naive to think he could go there to this violent tribe and convert them to Christianity so easily.

    I don't think he was thinking about the eventual risks of diseases, as he probably wasn't feeling sick.

    As I said before I think it was terrible wrong of him to go there.

    (If we wouldn't have Christian missionaries like Ansgar coming over to Scandinavia about 1000 years ago maybe we still would believe in Tor, Oden, Freja :) The first one was apparently killed.
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  • Annafalk
    Annafalk Sweden Posts: 4,004
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Annafalk said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Annafalk said:
    I understand that they have no knowledge. They could have just ignored him though, why justify them killing him. 
    but they have extreme fear of something they don't know. that's how primitive tribes work. you tresspass on their land, they kill you. I know it doesn't make sense to us, otherwise we'd all be murdering our mailmen, but to them, he is there to kill them, so they kill him first. 
    I it was a pack of wolves I would agree with you. I understand what you're saying I'm just saying I think they did wrong.
    What differentiates their situation from that of a pack of wolves, on your eyes?
    The obvious that they are humans and they should know murder is wrong, they also killed two fishermen that was lost before. Even if they did wrong, I can understand them doing it.

  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Annafalk said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Annafalk said:
    I think they did wrong, it's not ok to arrow down an unarmed defenseless man. It's sad that he was so naive but I would never say they did the right thing. 
    In what way was he naive? 

    The first thing you'll read about this tribe or similiar ones is the danger of disease and how we have wiped many of them them out before in history from us forcing our diseases on them.

    So there is no chance he would know of them, and how to reach them -- without knowing this. 

    His disgusting Christian missrionary-bullshit trumped the risk of mass murder. 

    There is nothing naive about it. 
    He was naive to think he could go there to this violent tribe and convert them to Christianity so easily.

    I don't think he was thinking about the eventual risks of diseases, as he probably wasn't feeling sick.

    As I said before I think it was terrible wrong of him to go there.

    (If we wouldn't have Christian missionaries like Ansgar coming over to Scandinavia about 1000 years ago maybe we still would believe in Tor, Oden, Freja :) The first one was apparently killed.
    Or we would have turned healthy atheist even quicker :)

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  • mickeyrat
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  • my2hands
    my2hands Posts: 17,117
    This is a perfect example of "shit white people do"... dude paddled up with a bible & cross lol

  • Annafalk
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    Even if he was very very naive, it's incredible that he dared to do that all alone. 
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    Jesus loves you and plastic footballs. Sorry to sound so harsh , but fuck him.

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  • OnWis97
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    LongestRoad said:
    From what I’ve read some were kidnapped as an experiment a long time ago. The adults got sick and died. They returned the children. They remember and aren’t going to let that happen again. He knew the danger but went anyway on a mission. If the bible got to them,  it was a success. It’s now up to them what to do with it. The guys parents even understand the danger that he chose to ignore. He’s ok with it. The parents accept it. 
    What they do with the Bible?  What is the chance it’s in a language they can read.
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  • Jason P
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    what about the fishermen who ferried the dumb dumb to the island of death for what probably was pizza money on a NFL sunday afternoon here in the states?  they were either willing to kill off an entire population of islanders via the plague or watch someone with mental issues get shot to death with arrows.
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  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    OnWis97 said:
    LongestRoad said:
    From what I’ve read some were kidnapped as an experiment a long time ago. The adults got sick and died. They returned the children. They remember and aren’t going to let that happen again. He knew the danger but went anyway on a mission. If the bible got to them,  it was a success. It’s now up to them what to do with it. The guys parents even understand the danger that he chose to ignore. He’s ok with it. The parents accept it. 
    What they do with the Bible?  What is the chance it’s in a language they can read.
    Exactly. What a stupid fuck that guy was.
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