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 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. hippiemom = goodness0 hippiemom = goodness0
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            cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll."It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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 It’s hostile in here today.HughFreakingDillon said:
 cincy said nothing about "oh well or too bad", nor that it bothered him that you won't accept it. he merely stated an opinion on the state of politics in the US currently, which I agree with.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 obama was right about yet another thing.brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            i just watched the segment on cuomo with rodman. all i can say is....wow.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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            HughFreakingDillon said:
 obama was right about yet another thing.brianlux said:cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll.Ohhhhhh yeah! Beer? Ah, yes, beer. Maybe that's how this will all shake out. As the world becomes smaller and smaller, we will all drink beer together (or whatever rolls your socks) and no one will have any desire to waste time with war. Think about it: Beer/war. War/beer. Beer will win.Saving the world, One beer at a time. I see it now. That converted ambulance I saw yesterday was a sign, a prophecy.Let the good times roll.Ohhhhhh yeah! "It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 "It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0
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            And just like that, Team Trump Treason declares his meeting a complete success, time to move on to the next crisis. Hey guess what? While you were sleeping there’s no longer an opioid crisis! Problem solved! Suckers.
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 Or kids in captivity without their parents!Halifax2TheMax said:And just like that, Team Trump Treason declares his meeting a complete success, time to move on to the next crisis. Hey guess what? While you were sleeping there’s no longer an opioid crisis! Problem solved! Suckers.
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 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 Alexxxander Keith’s for me please.mcgruff10 said:
 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA; 09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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 I never drank a beer from halifax before; the search is on!!Halifax2TheMax said:
 Alexxxander Keith’s for me please.mcgruff10 said:
 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. 
 have you tried the fundy wipa? I never had a white ipa before.Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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 “Somebody want to go and get a six pack, eight pack or whatever? Somebody get the truck, we’ll all go. C’mon!” Or words to that effect.my2hands said:Alexander Keith's is delicious stuff!!!
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 “Fundy Wipa?” That sounds dirty. But no, have not.mcgruff10 said:
 I never drank a beer from halifax before; the search is on!!Halifax2TheMax said:
 Alexxxander Keith’s for me please.mcgruff10 said:
 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. 
 have you tried the fundy wipa? I never had a white ipa before.
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 whites are great. but unforunately for me (and my family), I end up a balloon on slow release.mcgruff10 said:
 I never drank a beer from halifax before; the search is on!!Halifax2TheMax said:
 Alexxxander Keith’s for me please.mcgruff10 said:
 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. 
 have you tried the fundy wipa? I never had a white ipa before.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0
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 “Fundy Wipa?” That sounds dirty. But no, have not.mcgruff10 said:
 I never drank a beer from halifax before; the search is on!!Halifax2TheMax said:
 Alexxxander Keith’s for me please.mcgruff10 said:
 I am an IPA kind of guy and halifax drinks molson XXX.cincybearcat said:
 Depends on the beerHalifax2TheMax said:
 That’s okay, don’t take it personally as I certainly don’t. Maybe beer would help? Me, you and Mcgruff can solve NK. Given enough beer.cincybearcat said:
 No frustrated. You aren’t understanding what I’m saying at all. It’s not worth it anymore.Halifax2TheMax said:
 You mad, bro?cincybearcat said:
 You still are completely missing my point. I never said it was ok. But feel free to focus your faux outrage on me some more if it helps you sleep better tonight.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Do you not see the glaring hypocracy of the repubes since Team Trump Treason's election? Do you accept Team Trump Treason's 6 lies, on average, per day? Are you okay with that? The repubes sure seem to be as they don't call him out for it, ever. The fact that you took umbrage with my pointing this out, in effect, normalizes Team Trump Treason's behavior. It didn't always used to be this way.cincybearcat said:
 I don't think I'm normalizing anything. I'm saying it has been evolving this way and keeps getting worse and it's awful. Again you are completely missing what I;m trying to say....just an analogy...how politics is moving more towards the way sports are with unwavering support for "your team" and hatred for the "other team".Halifax2TheMax said:
 You seem to have taken offense at my pointing out the glaring hypocracy of the right. Thats what's bad, that you seem to normalize it. Its never been this bad. Hell, i"ve voted for repubes that I agree with. There used to be bipartisanship. Now? On every issue the repupes used to go apeshit over, if they do it under Team Trump Treason, its a shoulder shrug and MAGA. Again, I don't equate politics with sports. One has a direct impact on your day to day quality of life, the other sends you into a depression for a day or two. If that's how you rationalize and excuse Team Trump Treason, so be it but it ain't me. How else to explain what's occured in the past 24 hours? PTape? And illegal foreign campaign finance contributions?cincybearcat said:
 Cause clearly I was saying that politics are sports in their effect....c'mon. Put your PTape away, it's distracting you from reading.Halifax2TheMax said:
 Sorry, but government policy and governance are not sports. If the Patriots lose the super bowl because they traded Gronk to the victors, it doesn’t impact my life one iota. Team Trump Treason doing Russia’s and China’s bidding while being so obviously clueless while also getting a pass from the repubes in Congress, has the potential to get me killed.cincybearcat said:
 It's just such low hanging fruit and obvious. Kinda like the player that if he is on your team you love him and if he plays for another team you hate him. Happens all the timeHalifax2TheMax said:
 Have you watched the Faux news comparison of coverage of Team Trump Treason and Obama that someone posted? The right's hypocrasy knows no bounds. And some are suckers for it. Sometimes it needs to be pointedly pointed out. So maybe when Team Trump Treason stops doing shit that the repubes allow to go by without comment that they would have had a stroke over if done by Hillary or Obama, I'll stop pointing it out. So yea, never.cincybearcat said:
 When are we going to stop with the "just imagine if this was obama....or hillary" stuff? I'm guessing never.Halifax2TheMax said:Just close your eyes for a moment, just for a moment, and imagine Hillary or Obama doing any of this. Announcing a willingness to meet, scheduling a meeting, issuing a commerative coin, canceling the meeting, putting it back on, going to Singapore without any prep or specifics, meeting one on one without any aides present and showing a propaganda piece on an iPad. Imagine that for just a minute. Heads would explode and Washington would be in an uproar. Then to hold a press conference and openly admit that if they fail, they'd jsut make up an excuse, while shrugging their shoulders in an Alfred P. Newman kind of way. Now, imagine that.
 "The future is in Singapore and not Quebec." 
 What I am saying is we've seen this all the time in sports and now Americans are treating politics like sports. They pick a team and then only support the team, instead of the country. It's awful. And to state..."If the other team's person did this...." No shit. It's be like that for a while and as I said, it's awful. Only principle left is power.....
 So - I'm normalizing and rationalizing Trump by pointing this out huh? Weird. You are so against this team that anytime someone doesn't go apeshit on them you accuse them of being with them...normalizing...rationalizing.... It's bs.
 I see your analogy and I don't accept it. In sports, its fine. In politics, its not and it smacks of normalization, "look politics has become like sports, nothing I can do, oh well or too bad." I'll continue to call out the hypocracy of the repubes in accepting the abhorrent behavior of Team Trump Treason and I won't accept it as a sports analogy. I'm sorry that bothers you. 
 have you tried the fundy wipa? I never had a white ipa before.
 
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