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  • OffSheGoes35OffSheGoes35 Posts: 2,814
    Hi! said:
    I dont lie. Lol, i just gave Rodman a hug and told him i loved him! Lol!
    Awesome! Thank you for including us in the happy moment. Made me happy too.  :)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    But I thought Little Rocket Man was “very honorable?” What happened? Oh yea, Team Trump Treason got elected.

    Trump just canceled Pompeo’s big trip to North Korea. That’s a really bad sign. - Vox https://apple.news/A8tmH5UjETFqJDnlKMGdKPw
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    “Big trip?” Suckers 
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717
    Just send Rodman over to negotiate ... Putin has Segal as a special envoy to the US.  Trump can make Rodman a special envoy to NK ... and that likely wouldn't be the most bazaar thing Trump has done...
  • dignindignin Posts: 8,642

    Mattis Warns U.S. Drills May Restart Without Progress on North Korea


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/mattis-warns-us-drills-may-restart-without-progress-on-north-korea

    Suckers!!
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    Little Rocket Man give up his nukes yet? Team Trump Treason is a master negotiator, what gives?
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  • JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    MayDay10 said:
    Does anyone else suspect that this NK "deal" is the part of some sort of set-up by China/NK/Russia to give Trump a tee-ball and further legitimize/strengthen his hold on the USA?

    I suspected that they were being fed the materials and technologies to upgrade their delivery systems and weapons from China and/or Russia (I said this a few years ago). There was a huge uptick in progress and testing frequency, as well as rhetoric.

    And then the sudden 180 turn by a "leader" who was the product of generations of despotic and isolationist family members.... who seemed to be even more brazen than his father and grandfather. Him and Trump traded various irresponsible and childish barbs... All of the sudden, "poof" Kim wants to meet, all smiles, starts dismantling/decommissioning nuclear sites. Hugging SK leadership. Meeting with the American president, apparently ready to hammer out a deal (and reports say they may have already made most of the progress without meeting yet)... 

    It just seems very fishy and easy.
    Putin on the ritz pulling strings for a PTape or Pcubed. Not to be confused with 3D.
    #nowayjose
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    And Team Trump Treason wants another summit with little Rocket Man because, well, the first time was so successful, he thought he’d do it again.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-missile-base/index.html
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,336
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    And Team Trump Treason wants another summit with little Rocket Man because, well, the first time was so successful, he thought he’d do it again.

    https://www.cnn.com/2018/12/05/politics/north-korea-satellite-images-missile-base/index.html
    Why not!  All they need is love, love, love.  :lol:



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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    Love, and only love, will break it down.....
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Victoria, BCPosts: 11,456
    This should come as no surprise to anyone paying attention:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-us-nuclear-negotiations-deadlocked_us_5c1b44ade4b0407e907725a9

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Thursday it will never unilaterally give up its nuclear weapons unless the United States first removes what Pyongyang called a nuclear threat. The surprisingly blunt statement jars with Seoul’s rosier presentation of the North Korean position and could rattle the fragile trilateral diplomacy to defuse a nuclear crisis that last year had many fearing war.

    The latest from North Korea comes as the United States and North Korea struggle over the sequencing of the denuclearization that Washington wants and the removal of international sanctions desired by Pyongyang. The statement carried by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency also raises credibility problems for the liberal South Korean government, which has continuously claimed that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is genuinely interested in negotiating away his nuclear weapons as Seoul tries to sustain a positive atmosphere for dialogue.

    The North’s comments may also be seen as proof of what outside skeptics have long said: that Kim will never voluntarily relinquish an arsenal he sees as a stronger guarantee of survival than whatever security assurances the United States might provide. The statement suggests North Korea will demand the United States withdraw or significantly reduce the 28,500 American troops stationed in South Korea, a major sticking point in any disarmament deal.


    ..... article continued in link

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    oftenreading said:
    This should come as no surprise to anyone paying attention:

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/north-korea-us-nuclear-negotiations-deadlocked_us_5c1b44ade4b0407e907725a9

    SEOUL, South Korea (AP) — North Korea said Thursday it will never unilaterally give up its nuclear weapons unless the United States first removes what Pyongyang called a nuclear threat. The surprisingly blunt statement jars with Seoul’s rosier presentation of the North Korean position and could rattle the fragile trilateral diplomacy to defuse a nuclear crisis that last year had many fearing war.

    The latest from North Korea comes as the United States and North Korea struggle over the sequencing of the denuclearization that Washington wants and the removal of international sanctions desired by Pyongyang. The statement carried by the North’s official Korean Central News Agency also raises credibility problems for the liberal South Korean government, which has continuously claimed that North Korean leader Kim Jong Un is genuinely interested in negotiating away his nuclear weapons as Seoul tries to sustain a positive atmosphere for dialogue.

    The North’s comments may also be seen as proof of what outside skeptics have long said: that Kim will never voluntarily relinquish an arsenal he sees as a stronger guarantee of survival than whatever security assurances the United States might provide. The statement suggests North Korea will demand the United States withdraw or significantly reduce the 28,500 American troops stationed in South Korea, a major sticking point in any disarmament deal.


    ..... article continued in link

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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717

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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    That slow ass train cracks me up... this dude cant fly? Lol
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,336
    Meltdown99 said:

    He's so cute.  I want a Kim teddy bear!
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  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BCPosts: 48,085
    So this I absolutely did not know. Apparently pretty much everyone in North Korea is a meth head. This is actually kind of mind blowing to me. The NK government is literally keeping the population under control by directly facilitating meth addiction. Holy crap.




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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717
    Meth is a cheap drug.  Drugs are everywhere, in every society...

    Any country that denies having drug problems are just lying.

    Of course, they are going to turn a blind eye to the problem, drugged and starving people don't take to the street trying to overthrow chia dictator.  



  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain.Posts: 32,336
    North Korea has to be today's quintessential fucked up country.  The average person living there at any time in the last (at least) 50 years has had to endure trials, tribulations, pain and suffering most of us can only vaguely imagine by reading about the place (and there are only a relatively few about NK that tell it like it really is.)  How terrible it must be to live in that country.  Even the elite, dare they say the wrong words or make a wrong move, may find themselves in one of the many torturous prison work camps there.  It must be hell on earth.
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    I have a bad feeling NK is going to help Trump get re-elected by agreeing to de-nuke in some grand agreement sometime in 2020 .... with the assist coming from you know who

    Think about that for a second.... 
  • Jason PJason P Posts: 18,762
    kind of crazy that some americans would rather have NK go full nuke crazy and also have the US economy go to hell just for a chance that king clown may not get re-elected (pending his ghost getting impeached in 28 years when the Mueller report is finally finished)
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 25,614
    Jason P said:
    kind of crazy that some americans would rather have NK go full nuke crazy and also have the US economy go to hell just for a chance that king clown may not get re-elected (pending his ghost getting impeached in 28 years when the Mueller report is finally finished)
    Little Rocket Man ain’t giving up his nukes. He saw what happened to Iraq and Iran. Team Trump Treason is being played like a fiddle at a Putin on the ritz wedding. The economy is cyclical and you’ve already got the business world talking recession. Talk about a bubble.
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717
    Jason P said:
    kind of crazy that some americans would rather have NK go full nuke crazy and also have the US economy go to hell just for a chance that king clown may not get re-elected (pending his ghost getting impeached in 28 years when the Mueller report is finally finished)
    lol...that's about how some lawyers work.
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717
    Are you serious, we might have a recession...unbelievable.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    Jason P said:
    kind of crazy that some americans would rather have NK go full nuke crazy and also have the US economy go to hell just for a chance that king clown may not get re-elected (pending his ghost getting impeached in 28 years when the Mueller report is finally finished)
    I don't... but I don't think NK would ever use a nuke anyway so I've never been worried about them, it's all wag the dog.... I am concerned they will pull a rope-a-dope in 2020, will announce an agreement has been reached with Trump the great negotiator to de-nuke (in cahoots with China & Russia) to help Trump win re-election, with no real intention of following through.... 

    That would not surprise me... there are powerful forces that would love Trump to stick around, inside of America and outside of it 
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business...Posts: 7,717
    Have you seen the NK generals, just fly over with giant magnet...war won.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 18,751
    my2hands said:
    I have a bad feeling NK is going to help Trump get re-elected by agreeing to de-nuke in some grand agreement sometime in 2020 .... with the assist coming from you know who

    Think about that for a second.... 
    Why in the world would NK ever agree to de-nuke?  It's suicide for Kim.  
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    mrussel1 said:
    my2hands said:
    I have a bad feeling NK is going to help Trump get re-elected by agreeing to de-nuke in some grand agreement sometime in 2020 .... with the assist coming from you know who

    Think about that for a second.... 
    Why in the world would NK ever agree to de-nuke?  It's suicide for Kim.  


    keep reading.... 2 posts above... who says there has to be actual follow through? he only needs a few points bump heading into November.... i can see the rallys and victory lap now


    Xi wants Trump in there until 2024... Putin wants him in there until 2024... lots of people want him in there until 2024, including some powerful western folks whether people realize it or not... and he will give away the farm to do it.....   


    the rope-a-dope is coming........ just a hunch

  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118

    and its not suicide even if they really did de-nuke.... that card is way overplayed....


    Libya and Iraq didn't have the protection of border allies China and Russia..... nobody is taking out NK or Kim without that greenlight, and that includes the US.... he's not going anywhere until Xi wants him to go somewhere

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