Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?
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Worse in that they should know better. We elected a petulant child but did not directly ask for checks and balances to disappear.JimmyV said:As bad as Trump has been, Congress has been worse. I guess that shouldn't surprise me but it still does a little.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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Haha, that dude was just told by a judge that he has to hand over that Wu Tang Clan album - he isn't allowed to keep it or sell it because of his crimes.ConorKavanagh said:Come back George Bush, all is forgiven. At this stage I'd welcome that motherfucker who bought the Wu Tang Clan album. Well, maybe not quite.
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he is actually worse than i thought he would be. i thought he would surround himself with people who know the ropes and people that he would listen to and people that would check him if he did something stupid. i thought the congressional gop would keep him in check. instead they let him to fuckall whatever he wants and still support him.
man, the term comedy of errors does not even scratch the surface when describing this administration. the degree of criminal activity is beyond comprehension and it is something that nobody has ever seen before. in the end bobby 3 sticks is going to bring this whole thing to a spectacular end. i just hope it is not too late when he does."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
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Seriously? People would take Bush back over Trump? I don't get it. Bush was the fucking worst.
Potential is there for things to get worse under Trump, but come on with all the bullshit Bush nostalgia. Bush was straight up psychopath. Ill take 100 Trumps over any Bush.Detroit 2000, Detroit 2003 1-2, Grand Rapids VFC 2004, Philly 2005, Grand Rapids 2006, Detroit 2006, Cleveland 2006, Lollapalooza 2007, Detroit Eddie Solo 2011, Detroit 2014, Chicago 2016 1-2, Chicago 2018 1-2, Ohana Encore 2021 1-2, Chicago Eddie/Earthlings 2022 1-2, Nashville 2022, St. Louis 2022
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How is it that we've gone from a president who couldn't compose one well constructed sentence in 8 years to one who was so well spoken and intelligent, to one who is so un-presidential in so many ways it boggles the mind? What kind of wacky schizoid country are we?
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Bush was a freaking puppet with no ideas or plans of his own. His strings were pulled by the true axis of evil......Hi! said:Seriously? People would take Bush back over Trump? I don't get it. Bush was the fucking worst.
Potential is there for things to get worse under Trump, but come on with all the bullshit Bush nostalgia. Bush was straight up psychopath. Ill take 100 Trumps over any Bush.
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Why do you ask? Just to bait someone into saying yes, then they can get flamed...
By the way I don't support Trump, or any politician for that matter...all politicians are crooked and leach off the productivity of others..
But I do support his renegotiating of free trade, I was hoping he'd scrap it, doubt that'll happen, the US corporations will get to him.
I also support his stance on tariffs on steel...Canadian CEO supports Trump's steel tariffs, wishes they were even higher
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/barry-zekelman-steel-tariff-trump-1.4563140
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If that’s directed at me, I asked because I’m genuinely interested in whether Team Trump Treason supporters have buyer’s remorse or not. Have you seen any flaming thus far?Meltdown99 said:Why do you ask? Just to bait someone into saying yes, then they can get flamed...
By the way I don't support Trump, or any politician for that matter...all politicians are crooked and leach off the productivity of others..
But I do support his renegotiating of free trade, I was hoping he'd scrap it, doubt that'll happen, the US corporations will get to him.
I also support his stance on tariffs on steel...Canadian CEO supports Trump's steel tariffs, wishes they were even higher
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As others have stated Trump is actually worse than I thought he would be. His insults and man child behavior are very scary. Calling ANYTHING that disagrees or paints him in a bad light fake news reeks of a dictatorship. He the worst. The turnover in his administration says it all.0
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I didn't vote for Trump. And I wouldn't vote for him today.
I did, however, have some hope that he would dial it back, use a business approach (not emotion) and allow us to move forward on t=some issues that had stalled for DECADES due to partisan politics. I thought he would not bring an Us-Them attitude. More of a Trump vs them all attitude. But unfortunately, it seems that while at times he appears to be the middle voice...he always bends to the christian conservative side. And in some cases, he is stuck in 1950's thought. I do think we needed tax reform...but all we got was a weird tax break...not reform. I do think we needed comprehensive immigration reform. But what we got was enforcing the currently law, but based on a situation of decades of not enforcing it it should have been fixed for today's environment. Lots of failures. And Gun safety will be the next failure of Trumps. To be fair, in most of these cases, I consider a lot of past politicians to have failed as well. But Trump has brought a new personal low of name-calling, sexism, and racism to go along with his failure. Yuck.
If the election was tomorrow, there are very few people I would not vote for instead of Donald Trump. I still wouldn't vote for Trump, but in some cases I just wouldn't vote.hippiemom = goodness0 -
Well the Russians who helped him get the job still support him, I don't doubt.
How anybody who isn't anti-America could support him I don't know.0 -
You are genuinely interested?Halifax2TheMax said:
If that’s directed at me, I asked because I’m genuinely interested in whether Team Trump Treason supporters have buyer’s remorse or not. Have you seen any flaming thus far?Meltdown99 said:Why do you ask? Just to bait someone into saying yes, then they can get flamed...
By the way I don't support Trump, or any politician for that matter...all politicians are crooked and leach off the productivity of others..
But I do support his renegotiating of free trade, I was hoping he'd scrap it, doubt that'll happen, the US corporations will get to him.
I also support his stance on tariffs on steel...Canadian CEO supports Trump's steel tariffs, wishes they were even higher
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/barry-zekelman-steel-tariff-trump-1.4563140
I haven't read every post.
But its almost a certainty if someone truly genuinely supports Trump (they will be flamed)
I don't support trump, but some policies I get being, like re-negotiating free trade, and definitely support increased tariffs on steel.Give Peas A Chance…0 -
He is worse than George Bush the 2nd. How long was W president before he committed young men and woman to go fight a war and die in these wars over oil? So far Trump hasn't invaded anyone yet...thats a plus...Abe Froman said:As others have stated Trump is actually worse than I thought he would be. His insults and man child behavior are very scary. Calling ANYTHING that disagrees or paints him in a bad light fake news reeks of a dictatorship. He the worst. The turnover in his administration says it all.
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Yes, I am.Meltdown99 said:
You are genuinely interested?Halifax2TheMax said:
If that’s directed at me, I asked because I’m genuinely interested in whether Team Trump Treason supporters have buyer’s remorse or not. Have you seen any flaming thus far?Meltdown99 said:Why do you ask? Just to bait someone into saying yes, then they can get flamed...
By the way I don't support Trump, or any politician for that matter...all politicians are crooked and leach off the productivity of others..
But I do support his renegotiating of free trade, I was hoping he'd scrap it, doubt that'll happen, the US corporations will get to him.
I also support his stance on tariffs on steel...Canadian CEO supports Trump's steel tariffs, wishes they were even higher
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/barry-zekelman-steel-tariff-trump-1.4563140
I haven't read every post.
But its almost a certainty if someone truly genuinely supports Trump (they will be flamed)
I don't support trump, but some policies I get being, like re-negotiating free trade, and definitely support increased tariffs on steel.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So you support steel tariffs as does Team Trump Treason. Care to explain how and why that’s good for US consumers? Team Trump Treason’s trade policy guy, forgot his official title, resigned because he disagreed with the tariffs. A name to replace him has been floated, Kudlow, a CNBC economic talking head. He also opposes tariffs. How do you square that? And do you really believe a trade war headed up by Team Trump Treason is any match for the Asian, EU and other NAFTA representatives? This is an Administration that put a 24 yo with no previous experience in charge of addressing the opioid crisis. We’re about to get our clocks cleaned.Meltdown99 said:
You are genuinely interested?Halifax2TheMax said:
If that’s directed at me, I asked because I’m genuinely interested in whether Team Trump Treason supporters have buyer’s remorse or not. Have you seen any flaming thus far?Meltdown99 said:Why do you ask? Just to bait someone into saying yes, then they can get flamed...
By the way I don't support Trump, or any politician for that matter...all politicians are crooked and leach off the productivity of others..
But I do support his renegotiating of free trade, I was hoping he'd scrap it, doubt that'll happen, the US corporations will get to him.
I also support his stance on tariffs on steel...Canadian CEO supports Trump's steel tariffs, wishes they were even higher
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/windsor/barry-zekelman-steel-tariff-trump-1.4563140
I haven't read every post.
But its almost a certainty if someone truly genuinely supports Trump (they will be flamed)
I don't support trump, but some policies I get being, like re-negotiating free trade, and definitely support increased tariffs on steel.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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I voted for him and there have been many times that I wish I hadn't and just didn't vote for either. I despise Hillary and hoped after she got beat by Obama she was done. I supported and voted for Kasich during the primaries and really hoped he had won. Like others I thought once in office Trump would surround himself with knowledgeable smart people and actually act presidential. Boy was I wrong!
I'm really worried for the 2020 election. I have no idea who is going to win the ticket for the Democrats but hopefully its someone who can swing the pendulum to get some republican votes. Maybe we'll get lucky and Trump won't run for a 2nd term. Maybe some of you can answer this but can the sitting President be denied the chance to run for a second term? Can the Republican party put someone up against him to try and get him out?Columbus-2000
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he can be primaried, but it's rare. it's only happened once or twice in history. and he is running. he's already submitted the paperwork and is actively campaigning. of course, he may change his mind, or might choke to death on a KFC double down, but we'll have to wait and see.KC138045 said:I voted for him and there have been many times that I wish I hadn't and just didn't vote for either. I despise Hillary and hoped after she got beat by Obama she was done. I supported and voted for Kasich during the primaries and really hoped he had won. Like others I thought once in office Trump would surround himself with knowledgeable smart people and actually act presidential. Boy was I wrong!
I'm really worried for the 2020 election. I have no idea who is going to win the ticket for the Democrats but hopefully its someone who can swing the pendulum to get some republican votes. Maybe we'll get lucky and Trump won't run for a 2nd term. Maybe some of you can answer this but can the sitting President be denied the chance to run for a second term? Can the Republican party put someone up against him to try and get him out?By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
Yeah, I think an incumbent can be ousted in a primary but I can't think of a time it has happened. If Trump manages to hold the office the full four years, I could see this happening to him. Fairly big IF as far as making it the full four years though.HughFreakingDillon said:
he can be primaried, but it's rare. it's only happened once or twice in history. and he is running. he's already submitted the paperwork and is actively campaigning. of course, he may change his mind, or might choke to death on a KFC double down, but we'll have to wait and see.KC138045 said:I voted for him and there have been many times that I wish I hadn't and just didn't vote for either. I despise Hillary and hoped after she got beat by Obama she was done. I supported and voted for Kasich during the primaries and really hoped he had won. Like others I thought once in office Trump would surround himself with knowledgeable smart people and actually act presidential. Boy was I wrong!
I'm really worried for the 2020 election. I have no idea who is going to win the ticket for the Democrats but hopefully its someone who can swing the pendulum to get some republican votes. Maybe we'll get lucky and Trump won't run for a 2nd term. Maybe some of you can answer this but can the sitting President be denied the chance to run for a second term? Can the Republican party put someone up against him to try and get him out?
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