Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?
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lol so all the lying or just him not knowing anything about diplomacy or the one thing he said he wouldn’t do cause he would be to busy working to do Golfing every weekend ...mcgruff10 said:
How? What is surprising that he has done that he didn’t indicate while running for office?josevolution said:
Really damn dude he's way worse than anything i expected ...mcgruff10 said:I didn't vote for him but I definitely don't think he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Given his bizarre behavior, he seems a little more exposed to being primaried than any other incumbent in our lifetime. Of course the GOP, both in Washington and the general public, seems to have his back to the point that I am doubting that. Unless we see a lot more momentum of Republicans who want to move on from this circus, I don't see it happening. Who knows, though; maybe a couple more years of this nonsense could create a critical mass.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting0 -
I think a better question would be "Knowing what you know now, would you still have supported Hillary?"0
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She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
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Feel free to start a thread.mace1229 said:I think a better question would be "Knowing what you know now, would you still have supported Hillary?"09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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God forbid a lawyer do what they went to school for and are paid to do. Hope you never need an attorney, for whatever the issue is. How do you explain Team Trump Treason's attorney negotiating and agreeing to a settlement without his client's knowledge? If you believe Team Trump Treason didn't know about the settlement or that it had already been arbitrated? Care to list the worst cities run by democrats?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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And I could go through each sentence and essentially debunk what you’re saying or put it up against trump’s personality or position on things and there’s no objective way to say trump is better. And what does Clinton have to do with the status of any city?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting0 -
Trump's approval rating still sits at something like 38%. I don't know how many people that is but it has to be in the millions, right? Now stop and think about that: Millions of people still support Trump. Can you think of anything more bizarre?
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God forbid a lawyer do what they went to school for and are paid to do. Hope you never need an attorney, for whatever the issue is. How do you explain Team Trump Treason's attorney negotiating and agreeing to a settlement without his client's knowledge? If you believe Team Trump Treason didn't know about the settlement or that it had already been arbitrated? Care to list the worst cities run by democrats?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting
Yes, you can easily make the same or similar arguments against Trump. They were both horrible candidates and as I said earlier I wish I hadn't voted for either but I made a choice and voted for Trump. I think Trump and Hillary have more similarities to each other than differences and if Hillary wasn't a women I don't think she would of had any where near the support she got.Go Beavers said:
And I could go through each sentence and essentially debunk what you’re saying or put it up against trump’s personality or position on things and there’s no objective way to say trump is better. And what does Clinton have to do with the status of any city?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
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I try not to think about it for too long of a stretch. The number that’s even worse is that 6 out of 10 of his supporters said they will support him no matter what he does! That’s about 20% of the country. I know people hate the fascism reference, but that 20% number is how that shit happens.brianlux said:Trump's approval rating still sits at something like 38%. I don't know how many people that is but it has to be in the millions, right? Now stop and think about that: Millions of people still support Trump. Can you think of anything more bizarre?0 -
I am more and more convinced that many people in the U.S. are stark raving mad!Go Beavers said:
I try not to think about it for too long of a stretch. The number that’s even worse is that 6 out of 10 of his supporters said they will support him no matter what he does! That’s about 20% of the country. I know people hate the fascism reference, but that 20% number is how that shit happens.brianlux said:Trump's approval rating still sits at something like 38%. I don't know how many people that is but it has to be in the millions, right? Now stop and think about that: Millions of people still support Trump. Can you think of anything more bizarre?
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she would have gotten more.KC138045 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
God forbid a lawyer do what they went to school for and are paid to do. Hope you never need an attorney, for whatever the issue is. How do you explain Team Trump Treason's attorney negotiating and agreeing to a settlement without his client's knowledge? If you believe Team Trump Treason didn't know about the settlement or that it had already been arbitrated? Care to list the worst cities run by democrats?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting
Yes, you can easily make the same or similar arguments against Trump. They were both horrible candidates and as I said earlier I wish I hadn't voted for either but I made a choice and voted for Trump. I think Trump and Hillary have more similarities to each other than differences and if Hillary wasn't a women I don't think she would of had any where near the support she got.Go Beavers said:
And I could go through each sentence and essentially debunk what you’re saying or put it up against trump’s personality or position on things and there’s no objective way to say trump is better. And what does Clinton have to do with the status of any city?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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You really think so? That's another interesting side discussion on this topic. I think a lot of her support was from people enamored withe the idea of a women president. Just like Obama getting the black vote from black's who rarely or never voted before.Halifax2TheMax said:
she would have gotten more.KC138045 said:Halifax2TheMax said:
God forbid a lawyer do what they went to school for and are paid to do. Hope you never need an attorney, for whatever the issue is. How do you explain Team Trump Treason's attorney negotiating and agreeing to a settlement without his client's knowledge? If you believe Team Trump Treason didn't know about the settlement or that it had already been arbitrated? Care to list the worst cities run by democrats?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
People openly state they HATE Hillary, but usually can't explain why they have such strong feelings against her. I find that interesting
Yes, you can easily make the same or similar arguments against Trump. They were both horrible candidates and as I said earlier I wish I hadn't voted for either but I made a choice and voted for Trump. I think Trump and Hillary have more similarities to each other than differences and if Hillary wasn't a women I don't think she would of had any where near the support she got.Go Beavers said:
And I could go through each sentence and essentially debunk what you’re saying or put it up against trump’s personality or position on things and there’s no objective way to say trump is better. And what does Clinton have to do with the status of any city?KC138045 said:
She's a hypocrite and just a horrible person in my opinion. Like many democrats she pandered to the minorities to get votes and yet does nothing for them. Most of the worse cities in America are ran by Democrats. She claimed to stand for women's rights, women's lib, and feminism yet stood by her husband during all his shit and ridiculed and insulted his accusers. She defended a rapist when she was a lawyer and there's tape of her laughing about successfully defending him in court.my2hands said:Years and years of anti-clinton propaganda paid off
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You said you "despised" Hillary and that "she's a horrible person... strong words... and backed it up by saying she's a fake feminist essentially... her husband cheated on her... and that she takes minority votes for granted... while at the same time you voted for the guy who grabs them by the kitty cat and is a world class sexist POS, including towards his own daughter, and based his entire campaign on racism and xenophobia...
The propaganda worked... because your argument is totally bunk my friend... it sounds like you have no idea why you "despise" her and think she's a "horrible person"
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Obviously, I didn't support Team Trump Treason but I also knew that as soon as he announced, he was in way over his head. Personally, I think he ran because of the Obama jokes at the Press Club Dinner and because his empire was failing and failing miserably. Think about it, he never released his tax returns, which may have lead to discovery of how leaveraged he is, his "University" was an abject failing and The Apprentice was in the dumps for ratings. What better way to drum up business at your properties and polish your brand than by running for president? And even after he won, as disappointed as I was, I felt the same way as I did with Bush, okay, its the presidency, he'll settle in and do an okay job, not to my liking but its the presidency, he has to take it seriously. Nope. In way over his head, uncouth with the educated political class, crass, disgusting, unaware of how compromise, negotiation and manners play in diplomacy, whether with the Congress or world leaders, unaware of the alliances and the history and basically treating every interaction as a zero sum game where he has to win or else, he'll change his mind to claim victory (South Korea doesn't have a US ambassador nor has one been forwared to the senate for consideration. Think about that, no US ambassador to South Korea). He's doing unparalleled damage to the US and like his business dealings, he'll be an abject failure. I also believe he'll be impeached and when the early reporting came out about Russian collusion, and if you followed his career since the 80s and read a wide range of reporting about him, it wouldn't have come as a surprise. The Team Trump Treason "success" is a myth. And 60+ million Americans fell for it.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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The midterm elections will be the key to whether he is impeached or not.Halifax2TheMax said:Obviously, I didn't support Team Trump Treason but I also knew that as soon as he announced, he was in way over his head. Personally, I think he ran because of the Obama jokes at the Press Club Dinner and because his empire was failing and failing miserably. Think about it, he never released his tax returns, which may have lead to discovery of how leaveraged he is, his "University" was an abject failing and The Apprentice was in the dumps for ratings. What better way to drum up business at your properties and polish your brand than by running for president? And even after he won, as disappointed as I was, I felt the same way as I did with Bush, okay, its the presidency, he'll settle in and do an okay job, not to my liking but its the presidency, he has to take it seriously. Nope. In way over his head, uncouth with the educated political class, crass, disgusting, unaware of how compromise, negotiation and manners play in diplomacy, whether with the Congress or world leaders, unaware of the alliances and the history and basically treating every interaction as a zero sum game where he has to win or else, he'll change his mind to claim victory (South Korea doesn't have a US ambassador nor has one been forwared to the senate for consideration. Think about that, no US ambassador to South Korea). He's doing unparalleled damage to the US and like his business dealings, he'll be an abject failure. I also believe he'll be impeached and when the early reporting came out about Russian collusion, and if you followed his career since the 80s and read a wide range of reporting about him, it wouldn't have come as a surprise. The Team Trump Treason "success" is a myth. And 60+ million Americans fell for it.Columbus-2000
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I think more depends on Team Mueller's report. If that comes out really, really damning, as I suspect it will, regardless of who holds the house, they will have to vote for impeachment. Failure to do so will forever stain the institution, the white house and the republican party. That said, I think the dems take control, based upon Team Mueller's report, initiate impeachment and the senate, regardless, will have to convict because of the overwhelming evidence of law breaking by Team Trump Treason before, during and after the campaign and when he took the oath of office.KC138045 said:
The midterm elections will be the key to whether he is impeached or not.Halifax2TheMax said:Obviously, I didn't support Team Trump Treason but I also knew that as soon as he announced, he was in way over his head. Personally, I think he ran because of the Obama jokes at the Press Club Dinner and because his empire was failing and failing miserably. Think about it, he never released his tax returns, which may have lead to discovery of how leaveraged he is, his "University" was an abject failing and The Apprentice was in the dumps for ratings. What better way to drum up business at your properties and polish your brand than by running for president? And even after he won, as disappointed as I was, I felt the same way as I did with Bush, okay, its the presidency, he'll settle in and do an okay job, not to my liking but its the presidency, he has to take it seriously. Nope. In way over his head, uncouth with the educated political class, crass, disgusting, unaware of how compromise, negotiation and manners play in diplomacy, whether with the Congress or world leaders, unaware of the alliances and the history and basically treating every interaction as a zero sum game where he has to win or else, he'll change his mind to claim victory (South Korea doesn't have a US ambassador nor has one been forwared to the senate for consideration. Think about that, no US ambassador to South Korea). He's doing unparalleled damage to the US and like his business dealings, he'll be an abject failure. I also believe he'll be impeached and when the early reporting came out about Russian collusion, and if you followed his career since the 80s and read a wide range of reporting about him, it wouldn't have come as a surprise. The Team Trump Treason "success" is a myth. And 60+ million Americans fell for it.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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So why don't you start that thread ? I'll answer you , yes i would still vote for her over the idiot you voted for ....mace1229 said:I think a better question would be "Knowing what you know now, would you still have supported Hillary?"jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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