Knowing What You Know Now, Would You Still Support Trump for President?
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I agree with this for sure.my2hands said:Funny, I think he's far worse than most Americans realize...
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Really damn dude he's way worse than anything i expected ...mcgruff10 said:I didn't vote for him but I definitely don't think he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I give you credit , you at least admit to have voted for a total idiot , sexual predator , pathological liar , russian pupet ...Not to bad for an American lolelvistheking44 said:I voted Trump. I knew he was an idiot. I knew he had serious character flaws. I somehow figured he would curb his ways a bit once he was finally in the White House, I was wrong. Do I regret it at times, certainly. Would I vote for Hilary if I had to do it over. Absolutely Not.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
How? What is surprising that he has done that he didn’t indicate while running for office?josevolution said:
Really damn dude he's way worse than anything i expected ...mcgruff10 said:I didn't vote for him but I definitely don't think he's as bad as everyone makes him out to be.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I never supported him becoming the President in the first place. But also I'm not from the U.S.A so I was just casually observing the shit show unfold.Dublin 2006
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What shit show has unfolded from an international point of view?ConorKavanagh said:I never supported him becoming the President in the first place. But also I'm not from the U.S.A so I was just casually observing the shit show unfold.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.Dublin 2006
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I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
As I said, I'm a casual observer so don't follow closely every movement on the news. However the exaggerations about the inauguration were memorable.Dublin 2006
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He conducts himself poorly when meeting with other politicians, he insults people, he mischaracterizes (or maybe just outright lies) about policy, legislation, trade issues and the like, and in general is viewed as childish.mcgruff10 said:
What shit show has unfolded from an international point of view?ConorKavanagh said:I never supported him becoming the President in the first place. But also I'm not from the U.S.A so I was just casually observing the shit show unfold.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
Basically you said it better than I could have, oftenreading. I was just treading carefully there in case I was offending one of his supporters here.Dublin 2006
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I really don’t see how thinking Clinton was worse will hold up over time.elvistheking44 said:I voted Trump. I knew he was an idiot. I knew he had serious character flaws. I somehow figured he would curb his ways a bit once he was finally in the White House, I was wrong. Do I regret it at times, certainly. Would I vote for Hilary if I had to do it over. Absolutely Not.0 -
Are you comfortable with the POTUS not reading the PDB and the message that sends to the intelligence agencies, just for starters?mcgruff10 said:
I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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I m a big boy, go full 100% not for starters. Again didn’t vote for the guy but what surprised you about him?Halifax2TheMax said:
Are you comfortable with the POTUS not reading the PDB and the message that sends to the intelligence agencies, just for starters?mcgruff10 said:
I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
I think my biggest surprise is how stupid he seems. I thought most of the gibberish he spouted on the campaign trail was to just "identify with the commoners". Turns out he's actually the lowest common denominator. And that's scary, especially since all his decisions seem to be based on the last person he speaks to.mcgruff10 said:
I m a big boy, go full 100% not for starters. Again didn’t vote for the guy but what surprised you about him?Halifax2TheMax said:
Are you comfortable with the POTUS not reading the PDB and the message that sends to the intelligence agencies, just for starters?mcgruff10 said:
I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.
there are parts of me that occasionally think "ok, but this is just how it is during a republican presidency; the media on the left is always in meltdown mode". It can't be "BREAKING NEWS" 24/7, but somehow it is. But he is unhinged.
if he wasn't on twitter.....this wouldn't be a fraction as bad as it seems/is now. he just loves to throw fuel on the fire.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
It was a yes or no question answered with a question. For starters. I’ll answers yours regardless when I have the time and patience. Going 100% would lead to chronic exhaustion and a debilitating mental breakdown of which I may never recover.mcgruff10 said:
I m a big boy, go full 100% not for starters. Again didn’t vote for the guy but what surprised you about him?Halifax2TheMax said:
Are you comfortable with the POTUS not reading the PDB and the message that sends to the intelligence agencies, just for starters?mcgruff10 said:
I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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^^^^^^^ and I’ve probably forgotten 3/4s to 7/8s of the shit I’d point out.
Or I could just go to YouTube and post a video of a madlib going off the rails rather than formulate and express my original opinion. Which would you prefer?Post edited by Halifax2TheMax on09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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There have been a number of international embarrassments. We have lost our standing as a world leader in various organizations. Merkel and Macron have assumed that role for the West. Trump has no understanding of treaties or agreements previously made, as evidenced in phone calls he has had with world leaders. He was embarrassing when talking with the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Australia early on. See here for an overview - there also a link to the WaPo where the transcripts can be read. The State Department has many unstaffed, important positions unfilled, and we've completely neglected our relationships internationally. Trump has repeatedly insulted our allies overseas, and is trying to start trade wars with our most important trade partners. He is damaging trade relationships with our 2 North American neighbors. He has become a laughing stock (and consequently so has our country) throughout the world. He picks petulant, juvenile fights with an impotent North Korea, yet wants to be buddies with a dangerous former KGB operative who is openly hostile to our country. I'm sure outsiders looking in are astonished that someone so kooky and inept could ascend to the presidency of the US.oftenreading said:
He conducts himself poorly when meeting with other politicians, he insults people, he mischaracterizes (or maybe just outright lies) about policy, legislation, trade issues and the like, and in general is viewed as childish.mcgruff10 said:
What shit show has unfolded from an international point of view?ConorKavanagh said:I never supported him becoming the President in the first place. But also I'm not from the U.S.A so I was just casually observing the shit show unfold.
I think Drumpf has been way more damaging to our country than I ever imagined. I thought he'd just be an idiot, we'd have a few laughs, and we'd elect a real leader next time. But he has been an abortion and I sure wish we didn't have to wait until "next time". Hopefully these mid-term elections change the balance of power in Congress and he can be properly and quickly disposed of.
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My biggest surprise is how indifferent he is to the welfare of the people/country he's supposed to be serving. Going in I thought he was kinda dumb, but I did not realized what a narcissist he was. "What a crowd!" "I'd have run in there without a gun." "My reality show was more successful than his." Everything seems to be about his ego. I honestly think that through all of this, he's indifferent toward the country. His supporters like to say "FINALLY a president who loves America" (gee I wonder what that's based on) but, remembering back to Reagan, I think this is the first president who doesn't. He's not trying to destroy America. But I'm not convinced he's not trying to not destroy America.HughFreakingDillon said:
I think my biggest surprise is how stupid he seems. I thought most of the gibberish he spouted on the campaign trail was to just "identify with the commoners". Turns out he's actually the lowest common denominator. And that's scary, especially since all his decisions seem to be based on the last person he speaks to.mcgruff10 said:
I m a big boy, go full 100% not for starters. Again didn’t vote for the guy but what surprised you about him?Halifax2TheMax said:
Are you comfortable with the POTUS not reading the PDB and the message that sends to the intelligence agencies, just for starters?mcgruff10 said:
I agree that he sucks at Twitter but what else? No argument here eitherConorKavanagh said:The guy is behaving like Kanye West on Twitter most of the time. I'm not looking to get into and argument, but he seems to be fairly clueless like.
there are parts of me that occasionally think "ok, but this is just how it is during a republican presidency; the media on the left is always in meltdown mode". It can't be "BREAKING NEWS" 24/7, but somehow it is. But he is unhinged.
if he wasn't on twitter.....this wouldn't be a fraction as bad as it seems/is now. he just loves to throw fuel on the fire.1995 Milwaukee 1998 Alpine, Alpine 2003 Albany, Boston, Boston, Boston 2004 Boston, Boston 2006 Hartford, St. Paul (Petty), St. Paul (Petty) 2011 Alpine, Alpine
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As bad as Trump has been, Congress has been worse. I guess that shouldn't surprise me but it still does a little.
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