Hillary won more votes for President

tonifig8 said:

Message from Brother West:

"You know, I’ve never been tied to one party or one candidate or even one institution. And that’s true even with one church as a Christian. I’m committed to truth and justice. I know you are, too.

I came late to the Green Party, but right on time; I was a tireless supporter and surrogate for Brother Bernie Sanders … he was the standard-bearer for truth and justice during the primary at a national level, at a highly visible level. Maybe you supported him, too.

But once he endorsed Hillary Clinton, I had to endorse Jill and Ajamu.

Why? Because Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal disaster.

What I mean by neoliberal disaster is someone who generates a mass incarceration regime, who deregulates banks and markets, who promotes chaos of regime change in Libya, supports military coups in Honduras, undermines some of the magnificent efforts in Haiti of working people, and so forth.

She’s an imperialist. She’s a militarist. She could take us into war with Russia. She could take us into war with Iran. I believe she’s dangerous in terms of her neoliberal ideology—not as a woman, because I’m supporting, of course, my dear sister Jill Stein.

Jill is not a spoiler. You know, a lot of people use that term "spoiler."

But truth is, If Hillary Clinton can’t make the case to progressives, she doesn’t deserve our vote."

Brother West is an honest man. Any thoughts

I pretty much agree with everything he said until the last 2 bits there.

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

tonifig8 said:

Message from Brother West:

"You know, I’ve never been tied to one party or one candidate or even one institution. And that’s true even with one church as a Christian. I’m committed to truth and justice. I know you are, too.

I came late to the Green Party, but right on time; I was a tireless supporter and surrogate for Brother Bernie Sanders … he was the standard-bearer for truth and justice during the primary at a national level, at a highly visible level. Maybe you supported him, too.

But once he endorsed Hillary Clinton, I had to endorse Jill and Ajamu.

Why? Because Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal disaster.

What I mean by neoliberal disaster is someone who generates a mass incarceration regime, who deregulates banks and markets, who promotes chaos of regime change in Libya, supports military coups in Honduras, undermines some of the magnificent efforts in Haiti of working people, and so forth.

She’s an imperialist. She’s a militarist. She could take us into war with Russia. She could take us into war with Iran. I believe she’s dangerous in terms of her neoliberal ideology—not as a woman, because I’m supporting, of course, my dear sister Jill Stein.

Jill is not a spoiler. You know, a lot of people use that term "spoiler."

But truth is, If Hillary Clinton can’t make the case to progressives, she doesn’t deserve our vote."

Brother West is an honest man. Any thoughts

As a center-left person, I completely disagree on multiple levels.
1. The crime bill had unintended consequences but it also brought to us the assault weapons ban, the sexual offender list and increased penalties for those offenders. Also, which West fails to mention... SANDERS VOTED FOR THE BILL TOO.
2. I dont' know if she supported Glass, but I do know she voted for the CPA, so West's statement is at least partially false.
3. The Obama admin didn't "support" regime change in Honduras. They dealt with the aftermath which was new elections. You deal with the situation you have on the ground. I would think West is smarter than that.
4. I don't know what it means to undermine the people of Haiti.
5. I really, really don't think we are going to war with Russia in teh military sense. We are on our way to a proxy or cold war again, played out economically. Good. We'll win again and send Putin back to his dustbin.

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

To a certain point, as I said. Once you cross those bounds, which Trump has exploded through, they have an obligation to speak out. In my opinion, we are in this position today, partly... because the media did not denounce his appalling behavior earlier. Country first. Period.

rssesq said:

lets not forget that star of david as well. lmao

You mean like these?