Hillary won more votes for President

Go Beavers

Why is he using the term 'neoliberal' when he's just describing conservatives? Just call her a conservative.

rgambs

tonifig8 said:

Message from Brother West:

"You know, I’ve never been tied to one party or one candidate or even one institution. And that’s true even with one church as a Christian. I’m committed to truth and justice. I know you are, too.

I came late to the Green Party, but right on time; I was a tireless supporter and surrogate for Brother Bernie Sanders … he was the standard-bearer for truth and justice during the primary at a national level, at a highly visible level. Maybe you supported him, too.

But once he endorsed Hillary Clinton, I had to endorse Jill and Ajamu.

Why? Because Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal disaster.

What I mean by neoliberal disaster is someone who generates a mass incarceration regime, who deregulates banks and markets, who promotes chaos of regime change in Libya, supports military coups in Honduras, undermines some of the magnificent efforts in Haiti of working people, and so forth.

She’s an imperialist. She’s a militarist. She could take us into war with Russia. She could take us into war with Iran. I believe she’s dangerous in terms of her neoliberal ideology—not as a woman, because I’m supporting, of course, my dear sister Jill Stein.

Jill is not a spoiler. You know, a lot of people use that term "spoiler."

But truth is, If Hillary Clinton can’t make the case to progressives, she doesn’t deserve our vote."

Brother West is an honest man. Any thoughts

I pretty much agree with everything he said until the last 2 bits there.

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

HughFreakingDillon

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

Gern Blansten

http://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/300568-bush-epa-dot-officials-back-clinton

I agree with these guys....I don't agree with you keyboard jockeys

mrussel1

tonifig8 said:

Message from Brother West:

"You know, I’ve never been tied to one party or one candidate or even one institution. And that’s true even with one church as a Christian. I’m committed to truth and justice. I know you are, too.

I came late to the Green Party, but right on time; I was a tireless supporter and surrogate for Brother Bernie Sanders … he was the standard-bearer for truth and justice during the primary at a national level, at a highly visible level. Maybe you supported him, too.

But once he endorsed Hillary Clinton, I had to endorse Jill and Ajamu.

Why? Because Hillary Clinton is a neoliberal disaster.

What I mean by neoliberal disaster is someone who generates a mass incarceration regime, who deregulates banks and markets, who promotes chaos of regime change in Libya, supports military coups in Honduras, undermines some of the magnificent efforts in Haiti of working people, and so forth.

She’s an imperialist. She’s a militarist. She could take us into war with Russia. She could take us into war with Iran. I believe she’s dangerous in terms of her neoliberal ideology—not as a woman, because I’m supporting, of course, my dear sister Jill Stein.

Jill is not a spoiler. You know, a lot of people use that term "spoiler."

But truth is, If Hillary Clinton can’t make the case to progressives, she doesn’t deserve our vote."

Brother West is an honest man. Any thoughts

As a center-left person, I completely disagree on multiple levels.
1. The crime bill had unintended consequences but it also brought to us the assault weapons ban, the sexual offender list and increased penalties for those offenders. Also, which West fails to mention... SANDERS VOTED FOR THE BILL TOO.
2. I dont' know if she supported Glass, but I do know she voted for the CPA, so West's statement is at least partially false.
3. The Obama admin didn't "support" regime change in Honduras. They dealt with the aftermath which was new elections. You deal with the situation you have on the ground. I would think West is smarter than that.
4. I don't know what it means to undermine the people of Haiti.
5. I really, really don't think we are going to war with Russia in teh military sense. We are on our way to a proxy or cold war again, played out economically. Good. We'll win again and send Putin back to his dustbin.

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

rssesq

Brooke isn't nearly as outright anti trump as Alysin(?) Camerota. The Clinton's LOVE HER almost as much as Donna (mama superior) Brazile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUbjoCePpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1wvarpbFSs

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

HughFreakingDillon

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

dignin

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

Boxes&Books

rssesq said:

Brooke isn't nearly as outright anti trump as Alysin(?) Camerota. The Clinton's LOVE HER almost as much as Donna (mama superior) Brazile.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rUbjoCePpQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1wvarpbFSs

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Host: "Well let's talk about the emails(Clinton)..... Do you want to see Donald trump release his taxes?"

Hahaha

HughFreakingDillon

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

HughFreakingDillon

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

rssesq

lets not forget that star of david as well. lmao

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

To a certain point, as I said. Once you cross those bounds, which Trump has exploded through, they have an obligation to speak out. In my opinion, we are in this position today, partly... because the media did not denounce his appalling behavior earlier. Country first. Period.

JC29856

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

It's more entertainment than news. Look at all of the outlets dedicated to entertainment.

mrussel1

rssesq said:

lets not forget that star of david as well. lmao

You mean like these?

Gern Blansten

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

To a certain point, as I said. Once you cross those bounds, which Trump has exploded through, they have an obligation to speak out. In my opinion, we are in this position today, partly... because the media did not denounce his appalling behavior earlier. Country first. Period.

Agreed....the media should be knowledgeable about the subjects being discussed and they should challenge statements made by politicians in order to get to the truth.

Chuck Todd said a year or so ago something to the effect of "if I challenge someone they won't be on my show again"....that's bullshit. They need to be visible and the media need to hold them accountable. Both sides.

Boxes&Books

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

dignin said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

JC29856 said:

Given what is learned from the emails leaked I can understand why people refer to cnn as Clinton news network.

I was watching Brooke Baldwin yesterday on my lunch, and I was a little turned off by how obviously partisan she is. when she was talking about the Trump Tapes, she referred to the comments as "his disgusting comments". Journalists should report the facts, not use adjectives to comment on them personally.

Your giving her too much credit with journalist

I suppose. I don't watch much TV so I don't know much about her. But anyone holding a chair on a major news network (and it not being a person's own show with obvious biases), you should carry yourself as non-partisan. Just my opinion.

The non partisans probably don't get chairs at major news networks. I don't watch any tv, it's insulting.

it's just so much different than in canada. I've never heard Peter Mansbridge say anything partisan ever.

I don't see how finding comments about sexual assault disgusting is partisan? Do only liberals find those comments disgusting?

maybe partisan was the wrong word to use. although, if clinton said something like that and fox news called it "disgusting comments", it could be contstrued as partisan. All I'm saying is she should remain impartial. just report the facts, don't use personal comments when reporting what happened.

I don't know.. I hear you when it comes to discussing tax policy, choice, Russia policy or something like that. But Trump has broken through the floor of 'normalcy' with his comments on immigrants, Judge Curiel, Alyssa Machado, his retweeting of that racist anti-black meme, and so much more. It deserves condemnation to avoid normalizing the language and behavior.

I just think it's the job of the news to report the incident, not comment on it.

To a certain point, as I said. Once you cross those bounds, which Trump has exploded through, they have an obligation to speak out. In my opinion, we are in this position today, partly... because the media did not denounce his appalling behavior earlier. Country first. Period.

Agreed....the media should be knowledgeable about the subjects being discussed and they should challenge statements made by politicians in order to get to the truth.

Chuck Todd said a year or so ago something to the effect of "if I challenge someone they won't be on my show again"....that's bullshit. They need to be visible and the media need to hold them accountable. Both sides.

For example:
Challenging Clinton with tough questions? But how? She wasn't talking directly to the press for over 9 months! And you, and the rest of the clintonites, we're in full support. Some
Of you would label it at smart! Remember? She's still not doing it- unless it's for a quick comment about her debate performance.