Hillary won more votes for President

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Post edited by unsung on
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes but Hillary is looking like the one who actually could do just that. She remains a terrible candidate but it doesn't matter. It never has. She will be President.
    ___________________________________________

    "...I changed by not changing at all..."
  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    We are ALL guilty in creating this mess. No self-respecting person would put themselves through what we put our candidates through.

    Please, step right up. Let's see if you are presidential material. Post your medical records, your tax records, your divorce papers, your college transcripts right here on this thread. Let us all judge your private flaws and then share the links all over the Internet. Send me a picture so I can create an ugly meme with your face on it and share it all over social media. Give me your email and IP address so I can hire a hacker and create a wiki with every shitty thing you've said over the years. Hmmm, give me a list of your associates so I can get them interviewed on TV about what a dick you are.

    None of us would volunteer for that. Yet just about ALL of us consume it and perpetuate it with our actions.

    So who in the world do we think will run for office under these conditions? You're surprised that our politicians are narcissistic sociopaths when WE have created an environment where only seriously disordered people thrive? When the whole world is bent on destroying your reputation, that's what it takes. Candidates who are so ambitious they don't care what others think of them.

    I have character. . . But there is no way I would open myself up to the facts of my imperfect life for public consumption. Who here would? Lay it out there if you're willing.

    Orherwise, you can't have it both ways. You can't spend your entire purpose as a voter tearing down candidates and then expect other people to volunteer for it when you yourself never would.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    JimmyV said:

    Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes but Hillary is looking like the one who actually could do just that. She remains a terrible candidate but it doesn't matter. It never has. She will be President.

    Of course she will, she has the Gruber voters and is owned by the real operators of the United States, the banks.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Juanita Broaddrick
    How many times must it be said? Actions speak louder than words. DT said bad things! HRC threatened me after BC raped me.
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    Words speak louder than actions.

    Isn't that how the saying goes?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Harper v Virginia re: the Equal Protection Clause explicitly declares poll taxes unconstitutional (literacy tests, etc.) By contrast, D.C vs Heller, while allowing gun ownership in the District, explicitly states that gun ownership is NOT unlimited.

    It's a bitch when the facts get in the way. Our system of laws is a total bitch.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    edited October 2016
    unsung said:

    JimmyV said:

    Trump said he could shoot someone and not lose any votes but Hillary is looking like the one who actually could do just that. She remains a terrible candidate but it doesn't matter. It never has. She will be President.

    Of course she will, she has the Gruber voters and is owned by the real operators of the United States, the banks.
    You know Gruber isn't even a word. Gratuitous insults might be more effective if they make sense.
    BTW - I've worked in banking and finance for 20 years. Sounds like this is all good news for me. As a disciple of Ayn Rand, I'm sure you wish you were one of us since we're the operators.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Last couple days...

    DC Leaks released emails from HRC's inner circle, Capricia Marshall, and Clinton Foundation.

    Wikileaks released emails of HRC chairman John Podesta.

    The US state department released over 270 emails from Hillary Clinton's server.

    Trump talks about trying to bang Nancy O'Dell and grabbing p*ssy
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,668
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    pjhawks said:

    Free said:
    the canadian dollar is worth .75 of the american dollar. yup he's nailing it
    Dumbest comment on the boards today. Bravo.
    Know why the loonie fell? Because Stephen Harper made Canada's economy way too dependent on oil and didn't diversify enough, like the jackass with no foresight that he is.
    Second dumbest comment on these boards.
    Really?

    http://www.financialpost.com/m/wp/news/economy/blog.html?b=business.financialpost.com/news/economy/canadian-dollar-falls-below-69-cents-loonies-longest-losing-streak-since-1971-portends-more-losses

    http://m.huffpost.com/ca/entry/8925320
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The media creates the charade. They're not going to end it when their consumers endlessly recycle their stories by sharing the links, re-tweeting, posting, etc. That's how they make their money, for God's sake. Why would they stop reporting the way they do when their current model is making them filthy rich?

    Just like with the clown story. The police have asked the public to quit sharing the threats because
    1. It makes it almost impossible for them to get to the real source
    2. It creates unnecessary hysteria
    That's what I've seen as the major themes in this campaign. Mass hysteria. People saying shit but having no idea where it came from.

    The election of either candidate is not going to stop that when we have an entire nation scientifically proven to be addicted to their devices and the rush of adrenaline they get when they click the buttons. Heck, we have members of this thread who think that with every link they share, they are going to take down our current system of government. That is some really interesting thinking, to say the least.

    Every candidate has a durable floor of support. Basically no matter what they do, the votes are locked. Hillary's is probably 43/44%. I was thinking Trumps was about 40%. He is close to that now. I am very curious to see if Trump can consistently shatter down into the 30's. If this doesn't do it, then he literally could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it.
    I'm not so sure yet he's going to lose much support from Joe Public. My sister-in-law, a Trump voter, told me last weekend that what upsets her the most is that the "establishment" is abandoning party voters who chose Trump. She feels that if the party voters picked Trump, the leaders need to honor their wish. Time will tell how many feel the same way. At best, I predict Trump will lose votes because people stay home, not because people will switch candidates.

    Aside: my sister-in-law is a really good person. Misguided maybe, or guided by her small business owning perspective, but not a Trump stereotype. She's actually a Trump voter I can listen to.
    Check back in with us and let us know if this changes anything with your sis in law. I think the net result won't be voters going from Trump to Hillary. It certainly can't help him with undecided voters (how are there any of those??), but maybe more importantly is how it hurts the 'get out the vote' effort for the % of non-motivated voters that make up his total. For example, if your sister is towing the party line, rather than a passionate Trump person, is she as motivated to go on election day?
    Yes, I do wonder what she will say in response to current events. I predict she will be disgusted, but I also think she will still vote for him. As a voter, she is highly motivated by tax policy.

    I think voter turn out is going to be low for both candidates, though. I have no data point to confirm that hunch, but I will be canvassing Fairfax Democrats the final two weekends before the election to get the vote out. I'm curious to hear what people say. (They wanted me to take the 9 AM shift on a Sunday, and I said no way am I knocking on voters' doors at 9 AM. Hahaha)
    I've seen this written elsewhere today...

    "If we concede that Donald Trump’s character is bad, Would it be better for the country to have a President of poor character who will be under intense scrutiny by the press, pols and law enforcement agencies (Trump) or to have a President of poor character who will be given a pass and or defended by the press, the pols and apparently the FBI regardless of what they say or do (Hillary)."

    A lot of Trump voters will still be asking themselves this question.
  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,256
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The media creates the charade. They're not going to end it when their consumers endlessly recycle their stories by sharing the links, re-tweeting, posting, etc. That's how they make their money, for God's sake. Why would they stop reporting the way they do when their current model is making them filthy rich?

    Just like with the clown story. The police have asked the public to quit sharing the threats because
    1. It makes it almost impossible for them to get to the real source
    2. It creates unnecessary hysteria
    That's what I've seen as the major themes in this campaign. Mass hysteria. People saying shit but having no idea where it came from.

    The election of either candidate is not going to stop that when we have an entire nation scientifically proven to be addicted to their devices and the rush of adrenaline they get when they click the buttons. Heck, we have members of this thread who think that with every link they share, they are going to take down our current system of government. That is some really interesting thinking, to say the least.

    Every candidate has a durable floor of support. Basically no matter what they do, the votes are locked. Hillary's is probably 43/44%. I was thinking Trumps was about 40%. He is close to that now. I am very curious to see if Trump can consistently shatter down into the 30's. If this doesn't do it, then he literally could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it.
    I'm not so sure yet he's going to lose much support from Joe Public. My sister-in-law, a Trump voter, told me last weekend that what upsets her the most is that the "establishment" is abandoning party voters who chose Trump. She feels that if the party voters picked Trump, the leaders need to honor their wish. Time will tell how many feel the same way. At best, I predict Trump will lose votes because people stay home, not because people will switch candidates.

    Aside: my sister-in-law is a really good person. Misguided maybe, or guided by her small business owning perspective, but not a Trump stereotype. She's actually a Trump voter I can listen to.
    Check back in with us and let us know if this changes anything with your sis in law. I think the net result won't be voters going from Trump to Hillary. It certainly can't help him with undecided voters (how are there any of those??), but maybe more importantly is how it hurts the 'get out the vote' effort for the % of non-motivated voters that make up his total. For example, if your sister is towing the party line, rather than a passionate Trump person, is she as motivated to go on election day?
    Yes, I do wonder what she will say in response to current events. I predict she will be disgusted, but I also think she will still vote for him. As a voter, she is highly motivated by tax policy.

    I think voter turn out is going to be low for both candidates, though. I have no data point to confirm that hunch, but I will be canvassing Fairfax Democrats the final two weekends before the election to get the vote out. I'm curious to hear what people say. (They wanted me to take the 9 AM shift on a Sunday, and I said no way am I knocking on voters' doors at 9 AM. Hahaha)
    I've seen this written elsewhere today...

    "If we concede that Donald Trump’s character is bad, Would it be better for the country to have a President of poor character who will be under intense scrutiny by the press, pols and law enforcement agencies (Trump) or to have a President of poor character who will be given a pass and or defended by the press, the pols and apparently the FBI regardless of what they say or do (Hillary)."

    A lot of Trump voters will still be asking themselves this question.
    That is a good and true observation. We know Hillary's term at presidency will expand power for the elites and globalists, but we can't say that for Trump. That is the only reason to vote for Trump. The chance that the power grab of the elites and globalists is put on hold for a little while.

  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The media creates the charade. They're not going to end it when their consumers endlessly recycle their stories by sharing the links, re-tweeting, posting, etc. That's how they make their money, for God's sake. Why would they stop reporting the way they do when their current model is making them filthy rich?

    Just like with the clown story. The police have asked the public to quit sharing the threats because
    1. It makes it almost impossible for them to get to the real source
    2. It creates unnecessary hysteria
    That's what I've seen as the major themes in this campaign. Mass hysteria. People saying shit but having no idea where it came from.

    The election of either candidate is not going to stop that when we have an entire nation scientifically proven to be addicted to their devices and the rush of adrenaline they get when they click the buttons. Heck, we have members of this thread who think that with every link they share, they are going to take down our current system of government. That is some really interesting thinking, to say the least.

    Every candidate has a durable floor of support. Basically no matter what they do, the votes are locked. Hillary's is probably 43/44%. I was thinking Trumps was about 40%. He is close to that now. I am very curious to see if Trump can consistently shatter down into the 30's. If this doesn't do it, then he literally could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it.
    I'm not so sure yet he's going to lose much support from Joe Public. My sister-in-law, a Trump voter, told me last weekend that what upsets her the most is that the "establishment" is abandoning party voters who chose Trump. She feels that if the party voters picked Trump, the leaders need to honor their wish. Time will tell how many feel the same way. At best, I predict Trump will lose votes because people stay home, not because people will switch candidates.

    Aside: my sister-in-law is a really good person. Misguided maybe, or guided by her small business owning perspective, but not a Trump stereotype. She's actually a Trump voter I can listen to.
    Check back in with us and let us know if this changes anything with your sis in law. I think the net result won't be voters going from Trump to Hillary. It certainly can't help him with undecided voters (how are there any of those??), but maybe more importantly is how it hurts the 'get out the vote' effort for the % of non-motivated voters that make up his total. For example, if your sister is towing the party line, rather than a passionate Trump person, is she as motivated to go on election day?
    Yes, I do wonder what she will say in response to current events. I predict she will be disgusted, but I also think she will still vote for him. As a voter, she is highly motivated by tax policy.

    I think voter turn out is going to be low for both candidates, though. I have no data point to confirm that hunch, but I will be canvassing Fairfax Democrats the final two weekends before the election to get the vote out. I'm curious to hear what people say. (They wanted me to take the 9 AM shift on a Sunday, and I said no way am I knocking on voters' doors at 9 AM. Hahaha)
    I've seen this written elsewhere today...

    "If we concede that Donald Trump’s character is bad, Would it be better for the country to have a President of poor character who will be under intense scrutiny by the press, pols and law enforcement agencies (Trump) or to have a President of poor character who will be given a pass and or defended by the press, the pols and apparently the FBI regardless of what they say or do (Hillary)."

    A lot of Trump voters will still be asking themselves this question.
    Wow that s a great quote.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    The media creates the charade. They're not going to end it when their consumers endlessly recycle their stories by sharing the links, re-tweeting, posting, etc. That's how they make their money, for God's sake. Why would they stop reporting the way they do when their current model is making them filthy rich?

    Just like with the clown story. The police have asked the public to quit sharing the threats because
    1. It makes it almost impossible for them to get to the real source
    2. It creates unnecessary hysteria
    That's what I've seen as the major themes in this campaign. Mass hysteria. People saying shit but having no idea where it came from.

    The election of either candidate is not going to stop that when we have an entire nation scientifically proven to be addicted to their devices and the rush of adrenaline they get when they click the buttons. Heck, we have members of this thread who think that with every link they share, they are going to take down our current system of government. That is some really interesting thinking, to say the least.

    Every candidate has a durable floor of support. Basically no matter what they do, the votes are locked. Hillary's is probably 43/44%. I was thinking Trumps was about 40%. He is close to that now. I am very curious to see if Trump can consistently shatter down into the 30's. If this doesn't do it, then he literally could shoot someone in Times Square and get away with it.
    I'm not so sure yet he's going to lose much support from Joe Public. My sister-in-law, a Trump voter, told me last weekend that what upsets her the most is that the "establishment" is abandoning party voters who chose Trump. She feels that if the party voters picked Trump, the leaders need to honor their wish. Time will tell how many feel the same way. At best, I predict Trump will lose votes because people stay home, not because people will switch candidates.

    Aside: my sister-in-law is a really good person. Misguided maybe, or guided by her small business owning perspective, but not a Trump stereotype. She's actually a Trump voter I can listen to.
    Check back in with us and let us know if this changes anything with your sis in law. I think the net result won't be voters going from Trump to Hillary. It certainly can't help him with undecided voters (how are there any of those??), but maybe more importantly is how it hurts the 'get out the vote' effort for the % of non-motivated voters that make up his total. For example, if your sister is towing the party line, rather than a passionate Trump person, is she as motivated to go on election day?
    Yes, I do wonder what she will say in response to current events. I predict she will be disgusted, but I also think she will still vote for him. As a voter, she is highly motivated by tax policy.

    I think voter turn out is going to be low for both candidates, though. I have no data point to confirm that hunch, but I will be canvassing Fairfax Democrats the final two weekends before the election to get the vote out. I'm curious to hear what people say. (They wanted me to take the 9 AM shift on a Sunday, and I said no way am I knocking on voters' doors at 9 AM. Hahaha)
    I've seen this written elsewhere today...

    "If we concede that Donald Trump’s character is bad, Would it be better for the country to have a President of poor character who will be under intense scrutiny by the press, pols and law enforcement agencies (Trump) or to have a President of poor character who will be given a pass and or defended by the press, the pols and apparently the FBI regardless of what they say or do (Hillary)."

    A lot of Trump voters will still be asking themselves this question.
    Can you cite that quote? I d like to use it.
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Right after "well-regulated"?
    What kind of twisted logic ignores those words printed explicitly and inserts some imaginary ones about voting control?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Right after "well-regulated"?
    What kind of twisted logic ignores those words printed explicitly and inserts some imaginary ones about voting control?
    heller disagrees with you
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    edited October 2016
    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Right after "well-regulated"?
    What kind of twisted logic ignores those words printed explicitly and inserts some imaginary ones about voting control?
    heller disagrees with you
    Apparently he also missed the part that vocabulary was used differently back then and SCOTUS has offered that in opinions.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    mcgruff10 said:

    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Right after "well-regulated"?
    What kind of twisted logic ignores those words printed explicitly and inserts some imaginary ones about voting control?
    heller disagrees with you
    Heller isn't in the Constitution.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • unsung
    unsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    rgambs said:

    unsung said:

    mrussel1 said:

    unsung said:

    I'm really starting to believe that we to enact standards on voting based on these two candidates.

    That sounds Constitutional.
    It's in there, right next to gun control.
    Right after "well-regulated"?
    What kind of twisted logic ignores those words printed explicitly and inserts some imaginary ones about voting control?
    What kind ignores art 1 sec VIII where it states expressly what federal powers the federal government has?
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