Hillary won more votes for President

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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    unsung said:

    They are only odd to those that believe people can't live their lives without a nanny.
    Which appears to be most of society...
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  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,956
    lukin2006 said:

    I apologize for my spelling error, please forgive me, and don't ban me...

    Spelling. bah! No big deal. Role with it! :wink:
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    lukin2006 said:

    I apologize for my spelling error, please forgive me, and don't ban me...

    Geez, don't be a victim about it.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    unsung said:

    They are only odd to those that believe people can't live their lives without a nanny.
    Yet another non-sequitur statement.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,367
    unsung said:

    They are only odd to those that believe people can't live their lives without a nanny.
    Gets told his posts are odd, replies with an odd post.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    mrussel1 said:

    Geez, don't be a victim about it.
    mrussel1 said:

    Geez, don't be a victim about it.
    I'm not it's called sarcasm. Anyways I know (if I used "know" correctly) that usually when the subject is uncomfortable usually people ignore or change the topic. Sometimes honest mistakes happen, or sometimes grammar and spelling mistakes just happen because people are not great at it....either way the grammar and spelling police.

    I'm open to discussing my original post.

    But it's pretty hard to deny that whether you elect a republican or democrat they continue their destructive Middle East policies, which include drone strikes and war planes, and likely ground troops at some point...

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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    lukin2006 said:

    I'm not it's called sarcasm. Anyways I know (if I used "know" correctly) that usually when the subject is uncomfortable usually people ignore or change the topic. Sometimes honest mistakes happen, or sometimes grammar and spelling mistakes just happen because people are not great at it....either way the grammar and spelling police.

    I'm open to discussing my original post.

    But it's pretty hard to deny that whether you elect a republican or democrat they continue their destructive Middle East policies, which include drone strikes and war planes, and likely ground troops at some point...

    You're right, it is sarcasm and it cuts both ways. And no one is trying to change the subject, you just made the same mistake twice in a row.

    No one is denying that the incursion in the middle east will continue with either D or R candidate. It may even continue with Johnson for all we know. The problem with Johnson is that he knows so little about foreign policy, how can he actually have a coherent vision? If his vision is "I stay out of any foreign entanglement" then that is just straight up naive. Even Wilson, who ran on "He kept us out of the war" eventually lost a 100k troops in the fields of Europe. Having a paleo-conservative foreign policy platform is fine, so long as the candidate actually gave it some thought. There's no indication that Johnson has ever given it any thought whatsoever.
  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,367
    No one should be surprised that Johnson is dense on foreign policy. If you think something isn't part of your job, why bother learning about it?
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,224

    No one should be surprised that Johnson is dense on foreign policy. If you think something isn't part of your job, why bother learning about it?

    If he thinks that isn't part of his job as a Presidential candidate, let alone as a President, even as a Libertarian, then he's a total moron.
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  • unsungunsung I stopped by on March 7 2024. First time in many years, had to update payment info. Hope all is well. Politicians suck. Bye. Posts: 9,487
    lukin2006 said:

    Which appears to be most of society...
    Unfortunately. Clearly many on this forum judging that the reply was too much for them.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    edited October 2016
    PJ_Soul said:

    If he thinks that isn't part of his job as a Presidential candidate, let alone as a President, even as a Libertarian, then he's a total moron.
    Not necessarily...especially if elected and planned on taking the US foreign policy in a different, non war mongering, we don't meddle in sovereign state affairs, then I would think foreign policy knowledge is irrelevant.

    But this is why I doubt someone like him would ever be elected POTUS.

    Most American like the power and influence that their country represents...

    And most Americans enjoy their countries bully status...

    The election results indicate this...


    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,224
    lukin2006 said:

    Not necessarily...especially if elected and planned on taking the US foreign policy in different, non war mongering, we don't meddle in sovereign state affairs, then I would think foreign policy knowledge is irrelevant.

    But this is why I doubt someone like him would ever be elected POTUS.

    Most American like the power and influence that their country represents...

    And most Americans enjoy their countries bully status...

    The election results indicate this...


    I feel like you're just being a contrarian today, but okay... How do you think Johnson would magically withdraw America from foreign relations without knowing anything about it? What, he just says "We're out!", and that's the end of it???
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  • Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 9,367
    unsung said:

    Unfortunately. Clearly many on this forum judging that the reply was too much for them.
    The reply wasn't too much, it's just off task. If you want a nanny discussion, start another thread.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    mrussel1 said:

    You're right, it is sarcasm and it cuts both ways. And no one is trying to change the subject, you just made the same mistake twice in a row.

    No one is denying that the incursion in the middle east will continue with either D or R candidate. It may even continue with Johnson for all we know. The problem with Johnson is that he knows so little about foreign policy, how can he actually have a coherent vision? If his vision is "I stay out of any foreign entanglement" then that is just straight up naive. Even Wilson, who ran on "He kept us out of the war" eventually lost a 100k troops in the fields of Europe. Having a paleo-conservative foreign policy platform is fine, so long as the candidate actually gave it some thought. There's no indication that Johnson has ever given it any thought whatsoever.
    I honestly don't care if I made the mistake three times. He's not getting elected.

    And I agree, he probably won't take US foreign policy in different direction...

    No one will.
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    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    PJ_Soul said:

    If he thinks that isn't part of his job as a Presidential candidate, let alone as a President, even as a Libertarian, then he's a total moron.
    the fact that 8% of the population support this guy is even more stunning and makes me wonder how they would be compared to the average Trump voter

  • lolobugglolobugg BLUE RDGE MTNS Posts: 8,195
    pjalive21 said:

    the fact that 8% of the population support this guy is even more stunning and makes me wonder how they would be compared to the average Trump voter

    I think they are Republicans with a little bit of a conscious. as a Bernie supporter myself, I can't see Bernie supporters voting for this guy despite what the media say.

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    unsung said:

    They are only odd to those that believe people can't live their lives without a nanny.
    that doesn't even make a lick of sense.
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087

    that doesn't even make a lick of sense.
    It makes perfect sense if you understand where unsung is coming from. He doesn't believe the current political system suits his needs,or at least that's how I understand it. And as Canadians we might not agree? if I was an American and was a taxpayer where some of my federal tax $$$ are used to support military aggression in places througout the world to support a foreign policy agenda that has proven a huge failure makes perfect sense to me...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited October 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    Role, not roll... It can bee difficult two understand a sentence when won uses the wrong word rather then the write won.
    Speaking of spelling errors... This sentence is full of them.
    Post edited by Free on
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    lukin2006 said:

    It makes perfect sense if you understand where unsung is coming from. He doesn't believe the current political system suits his needs,or at least that's how I understand it. And as Canadians we might not agree? if I was an American and was a taxpayer where some of my federal tax $$$ are used to support military aggression in places througout the world to support a foreign policy agenda that has proven a huge failure makes perfect sense to me...
    I know where he is coming from. we all do. but the comment made zero sense in the context of responding to my comment.

    I don't disagree with his zero-government stance as a Canadian, I disagree with it as a realist.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    lukin2006 said:

    It makes perfect sense if you understand where unsung is coming from. He doesn't believe the current political system suits his needs,or at least that's how I understand it. And as Canadians we might not agree? if I was an American and was a taxpayer where some of my federal tax $$$ are used to support military aggression in places througout the world to support a foreign policy agenda that has proven a huge failure makes perfect sense to me...
    The statement is a non-sequitur. That's the problem. The conclusion does not follow the premise. In fact, it's totally disconnected.
  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJ_Soul said:

    I feel like you're just being a contrarian today, but okay... How do you think Johnson would magically withdraw America from foreign relations without knowing anything about it? What, he just says "We're out!", and that's the end of it???
    I don't think he would. I don't think any POTUS would.

    What do you think would happen if the Middle East ran out of oil tomorrow?

    And that question, you and I will never know the answer to, we can just guess and assume...

    I think you can guess my opinion of what I think would happen.




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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    "Not necessarily...especially if elected and planned on taking the US foreign policy in different, non war mongering, we don't meddle in sovereign state affairs, then I would think foreign policy knowledge is irrelevant."

    you can't honestly believe that just not meddling in global issues means that foreign knowledge becomes irrelevant, can you?
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  • lukin2006lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    mrussel1 said:

    The statement is a non-sequitur. That's the problem. The conclusion does not follow the premise. In fact, it's totally disconnected.
    After I posted it, I realized I should have left well enough alone.

    I was generalizing where I see unsung is coming from in general.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    Somebody heard a new word a few weeks ago and can't get it outta his head and has to use it on a daily basis.
    do a word search for non-sequitur in this forum. lmao
  • rssesqrssesq Fairfield County Posts: 3,299
    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/clinton-assange-wikileaks-drone/2016/10/04/id/751517/

    Why cant we just murk this kid?
    Spoken like a true capo di tutti capi
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 38,671
    rssesq said:

    Somebody heard a new word a few weeks ago and can't get it outta his head and has to use it on a daily basis.
    do a word search for non-sequitur in this forum. lmao

    alright, mrussell1, from now on, you must write this in its entirety:

    1
    : an inference that does not follow from the premises; specifically : a fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent
    2
    : a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    rssesq said:

    Somebody heard a new word a few weeks ago and can't get it outta his head and has to use it on a daily basis.
    do a word search for non-sequitur in this forum. lmao

    It's the proper term. I didn't just learn it. I can't help it if the arguments fall into the very definition so easily. Perhaps constructing a proper argument would resolve that.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    rssesq said:

    http://www.newsmax.com/TheWire/clinton-assange-wikileaks-drone/2016/10/04/id/751517/

    Why cant we just murk this kid?
    Spoken like a true capo di tutti capi

    http://www.snopes.com/julian-assange-drone-strike/

    It's really a sad day when people claiming to be progressives are getting their information from Newsmax.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 30,410
    lukin2006 said:

    After I posted it, I realized I should have left well enough alone.

    I was generalizing where I see unsung is coming from in general.
    Fair enough.
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