Hillary won more votes for President

benjs said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

This isn't exactly true. The space occupied by the DAC, receptacle, and chip for the headphone jack have been is now occupied by the haptic feedback sensor for the home button redesign, additional battery capacity, rubber sealing for moderate waterproofing, a faster lens (meaning better low light performance), and the dual telephoto/wide angle lenses on the 7 plus. There's no zero-compromise scenario in product design - something's gotta give!

But echoing mrussel's sentiments - sorry Kat!

PS, Clinton for President!

Funny how Samsung manages to get all those features in more successfully including better waterproofing (besides the dual lense camera, which is a bit of a scam, fyi, and not new), plus some more features of their own, and still keep a headphone jack. Apple's move had nothing to do with the features, that's just an excuse. It is all about marketing/selling yet more restrictive, non-compatible product and expanding their monopoly tactics.
(Notwithstanding the Galaxy Note 7s that are bursting into flames. Whoops!)

So did Mark Cuban actually show up to that debate?

benjs said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

This isn't exactly true. The space occupied by the DAC, receptacle, and chip for the headphone jack have been is now occupied by the haptic feedback sensor for the home button redesign, additional battery capacity, rubber sealing for moderate waterproofing, a faster lens (meaning better low light performance), and the dual telephoto/wide angle lenses on the 7 plus. There's no zero-compromise scenario in product design - something's gotta give!

But echoing mrussel's sentiments - sorry Kat!

PS, Clinton for President!

We need to start that investor thread. That could be interesting and far less confrontational.

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Government shouldn't get anything, no matter how much the value. It's theft, nothing more.

When are taxes ever considered not theft by you?

What did government do to deserve a cut of a potential estate tax?

Protect your ass from foreign invasion?
Do you think taxes are some new fangled Democratic invention? I'm pretty sure the concept of gov't levying taxes has been around for at least 20 years now.

LOL. Keep trying for $15/hr, that'll solve it.

tonifig8 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

I'm getting tired of Apple's business moves. when I bought my new ipod touch, I brought it home, "ah fuck, the input is different, now I have to spend $30 on an adapter so I can connect to my dock".

that company sucks.

this whole wireless headphone shit is just a money grab. people are going to lose one ear piece constantly and have to buy a whole new pair.

anyway, back to drumpf.

Haha... They can't keep the same layout forever man. They have to change things up to keep everyone on their toes. Remember Google came out with that shitty phone a few years ago? They were probably the worst phones ever created in the modern era. Haha... Benjs posted a solid message, with the exception of "Hillary for prez".


My vote goes to neither Trump or Clinton, so I can't end my post with a cool cheer like the rest of you.

America takes one step back, maybe two.

Money making tactics. That's it. I work in a high tech office, and we are allowed to choose Apple products or Windows product, depending on our personal preferences. I can't tell you how much more money we've spent on buying fucking adpaters and all kinds of special software to get the Apple products to work with our other systems and do what we need to do. It's totally ridiculous. (Of course some work is better for Macs, particularly the design stuff and audio editing. But for the most part... I'm surprised people put up with it).

So how exactly would a president increase the practice of corporate profit sharing, as Hillary suggested she'd do?

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

I'm getting tired of Apple's business moves. when I bought my new ipod touch, I brought it home, "ah fuck, the input is different, now I have to spend $30 on an adapter so I can connect to my dock".

that company sucks.

this whole wireless headphone shit is just a money grab. people are going to lose one ear piece constantly and have to buy a whole new pair.

anyway, back to drumpf.

Haha... They can't keep the same layout forever man. They have to change things up to keep everyone on their toes. Remember Google came out with that shitty phone a few years ago? They were probably the worst phones ever created in the modern era. Haha... Benjs posted a solid message, with the exception of "Hillary for prez".


My vote goes to neither Trump or Clinton, so I can't end my post with a cool cheer like the rest of you.

America takes one step back, maybe two.

Money making tactics. That's it. I work in a high tech office, and we are allowed to choose Apple products or Windows product, depending on our personal preferences. I can't tell you how much more money we've spent on buying fucking adpaters and all kinds of special software to get the Apple products to work with our other systems and do what we need to do. It's totally ridiculous. (Of course some work is better for Macs, particularly the design stuff and audio editing. But for the most part... I'm surprised people put up with it).

So how exactly would a president increase the practice of corporate profit sharing, as Hillary suggested she'd do?

Mac users are so annoying in a corp environment. I had two marketing people that just....could....not....do their job without a mac. So we bought them macs, and Final Cut (no better than Sony Vegas) and all sorts of other software and they were still bad at their job. They're gone now and we have a bunch of mac crap.

A POTUS couldn't do anything individually but I guess in concept you could provide tax incentives that make it worthwhile to do profit sharing. In turn, you would see a reduction in attrition which is always great. When I worked for a large corporation, we would get stock grants that would vest like 10% in year 1, 25% in year 2 and 50% in year 5. So you really had to think hard about leaving because you were always going to leave multiple years of the grants on the table. It's actually really good business I think.

Edit - yes I know my math doesn't work, but you get the picture. It was back loaded.

mrussel1 said:

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

I'm getting tired of Apple's business moves. when I bought my new ipod touch, I brought it home, "ah fuck, the input is different, now I have to spend $30 on an adapter so I can connect to my dock".

that company sucks.

this whole wireless headphone shit is just a money grab. people are going to lose one ear piece constantly and have to buy a whole new pair.

anyway, back to drumpf.

Haha... They can't keep the same layout forever man. They have to change things up to keep everyone on their toes. Remember Google came out with that shitty phone a few years ago? They were probably the worst phones ever created in the modern era. Haha... Benjs posted a solid message, with the exception of "Hillary for prez".


My vote goes to neither Trump or Clinton, so I can't end my post with a cool cheer like the rest of you.

America takes one step back, maybe two.

Money making tactics. That's it. I work in a high tech office, and we are allowed to choose Apple products or Windows product, depending on our personal preferences. I can't tell you how much more money we've spent on buying fucking adpaters and all kinds of special software to get the Apple products to work with our other systems and do what we need to do. It's totally ridiculous. (Of course some work is better for Macs, particularly the design stuff and audio editing. But for the most part... I'm surprised people put up with it).

So how exactly would a president increase the practice of corporate profit sharing, as Hillary suggested she'd do?

Mac users are so annoying in a corp environment. I had two marketing people that just....could....not....do their job without a mac. So we bought them macs, and Final Cut (no better than Sony Vegas) and all sorts of other software and they were still bad at their job. They're gone now and we have a bunch of mac crap.

A POTUS couldn't do anything individually but I guess in concept you could provide tax incentives that make it worthwhile to do profit sharing. In turn, you would see a reduction in attrition which is always great. When I worked for a large corporation, we would get stock grants that would vest like 10% in year 1, 25% in year 2 and 50% in year 5. So you really had to think hard about leaving because you were always going to leave multiple years of the grants on the table. It's actually really good business I think.

Edit - yes I know my math doesn't work, but you get the picture. It was back loaded.

Golden handcuffs. It is definitely a good business practice for employee retention.

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Government shouldn't get anything, no matter how much the value. It's theft, nothing more.

When are taxes ever considered not theft by you?

What did government do to deserve a cut of a potential estate tax?

Protect your ass from foreign invasion?
Do you think taxes are some new fangled Democratic invention? I'm pretty sure the concept of gov't levying taxes has been around for at least 20 years now.

LOL. Keep trying for $15/hr, that'll solve it.

Non-sequitur

Your entire economic plan revolves around being a leech.

Leeches don't provide any benefit and every sane and intelligent person recognizes the benefits government provides.
Your entire economic plan revolves around everybody being an island unto themselves and operating on the honor system.

PJ_Soul said:

tonifig8 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

I'm getting tired of Apple's business moves. when I bought my new ipod touch, I brought it home, "ah fuck, the input is different, now I have to spend $30 on an adapter so I can connect to my dock".

that company sucks.

this whole wireless headphone shit is just a money grab. people are going to lose one ear piece constantly and have to buy a whole new pair.

anyway, back to drumpf.

Haha... They can't keep the same layout forever man. They have to change things up to keep everyone on their toes. Remember Google came out with that shitty phone a few years ago? They were probably the worst phones ever created in the modern era. Haha... Benjs posted a solid message, with the exception of "Hillary for prez".


My vote goes to neither Trump or Clinton, so I can't end my post with a cool cheer like the rest of you.

America takes one step back, maybe two.

Money making tactics. That's it. I work in a high tech office, and we are allowed to choose Apple products or Windows product, depending on our personal preferences. I can't tell you how much more money we've spent on buying fucking adpaters and all kinds of special software to get the Apple products to work with our other systems and do what we need to do. It's totally ridiculous. (Of course some work is better for Macs, particularly the design stuff and audio editing. But for the most part... I'm surprised people put up with it).

So how exactly would a president increase the practice of corporate profit sharing, as Hillary suggested she'd do?

FYI - Apple's including a Lightning port to 3.5mm headphone jack adapter free of charge in with the iPhone 7. Not sure how that's a money-making tactic.

I'm with PJ_Soul though - I don't understand how Clinton would mandate corporate profit sharing... I just can't see "pretty please" and optional adherence getting businesses to change how they disseminate profits throughout the corporation.

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

tonifig8 said:

mrussel1 said:

OnWis97 said:

PJ_Soul said:

PJPOWER said:

It's pretty telling when people are drilling holes in their new iPhones for headphone jacks based on a video they saw on social media, lol

Oh man, lol. When I saw that story I actually looked it up on Snopes to see if it was true that people were really falling for it. I thought maybe the claim that anyone was actually doing it was fake ..... and found that Snopes only bothered to confirm that getting a headphone jack by drilling a hole in your iPhone was false. SMH.
(Stupidest thing Apple ever did btw)

I am not following...what did Apple do here?

They removed the headphone jack. So you have to use blu tooth headphones or use the adapter that plugs into the charge port. So I suppose you can't charge and listen to your headphones at the same time unless they are wireless.

This was a business move- Now apple users have to adapt to this product. As someone who uses Apple products, do I like it? Nope. But they are now locking us into this new product. And anyone else who attempts to make new headphones will have to spend money in changing their designs.

Definitely a business move. It means they can make the product slimmer which means they can release a new I7, which means new revenue, plus the wireless headphones. I hate Apple myself. I don't use their phone, hate Itunes, hate lossy music, hate being locked into a specific user experience. And I think they've developed lame ass products since Jobs died.

ouch! I agree with you, but still love my iphone and its operating system above all other phones I've used. I was originally a blackberry guy up until a few years ago.

On a side note, since you mentioned music ... a few days back you made a comment about going to see Mumford and Sons (i'm pretty sure it was you). I saw them a week or so ago, which was my 3rd time watching them. What was your take on them? I thought they put on a pretty good show and I think they sound pretty darn good live, which a lot of bands tend to not sound good live.

back to hillary

One thing that Hillary and I agree on is that we think Mumford was pretty good in concert, but not great. Now this was a few years ago, on the Babel tour. I did not like Wilder very much. I thought Sigh No More was great, because it was so different when it hit. I was wondering what their next move would be musically and I think it's just okay. We'll see what the future brings. But I can say for sure that Hillary will not ban Mumford from future ACL concerts. Trump might.

Edit - and it was at the Patriot Center (NOVA/ suburban DC) which I don't think is a very good venue acoustically.

I am generally not for bans of any kind but if Trump is for a ban of Mumford And Sons then I am for him. They took great music and turned it into Coldplay. In all seriousness though republican leaders usually result in great protest music. Worldwide Suicide is one of my favourite PJ tunes and dare I say that without Bush we wouldn't have it. I'm also a very big fan of Bushleaguer. I look forward to what kind of fantastic music a Trump administration will generate. His candidacy alone already got me a Prophets of Rage show which may have been the best concert I have been to in my life. Hillary will bring us more electric Mumford...bleh.

Were we both at the Toronto Prophets of Rage show too!? Seems that's two recent shows we could've met up! Were you in the pit too?

unsung said:

rgambs said:

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

mrussel1 said:

unsung said:

Go Beavers said:

unsung said:

Government shouldn't get anything, no matter how much the value. It's theft, nothing more.

When are taxes ever considered not theft by you?

What did government do to deserve a cut of a potential estate tax?

Protect your ass from foreign invasion?
Do you think taxes are some new fangled Democratic invention? I'm pretty sure the concept of gov't levying taxes has been around for at least 20 years now.

LOL. Keep trying for $15/hr, that'll solve it.

Non-sequitur

Your entire economic plan revolves around being a leech.

Leeches don't provide any benefit and every sane and intelligent person recognizes the benefits government provides.
Your entire economic plan revolves around everybody being an island unto themselves and operating on the honor system.

Better than theft.

Yeah, except that it isn't theft. Again.