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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I think the Obama coalition will hold true on Election Day. I think that's only true though because of how poor of a candidate the Republicans chose in Donald Trump- especially against a weak candidate like Hillary Clinton.
    I think the more moderate members of the Obama voters who are staying with Clinton could have been swayed to a sensible GOP candidate. If this were Clinton/Romney...the big swing that we typically see after 8 years of one party in the White House would probably take place. This year though with these candidates? I just don't see that happening.

    Oh? Is Romney sensible now? The same Romney who the 80's called and asked for their foreign policy back? The same Romney with the binders full of women? The one with the dog on his roof? The one who gave a woman cancer? I love how every GOP candidate is "sensible" except when they are the actual candidate. This line I definitely am not buying. If John Kasich was the candidate you would all be calling him Hitler right now just like evey GOP candidate since the end of WWII.
    Your point is generally correct. I wasn't a Romney hater. I didn't like his social policies by and large, but that's a product of being tied to the base. I do hope that Democrats get a little more perspective after this douche bag. The problem is... who's next? Kasich? Great. Cruz? No thanks.
  • ledvedderman
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    I'll float a name for who is next. George Bush. George P. Bush.
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  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    ledvedderman said:

    Ok, ok. Instead of saying "sensible" about how other candidates would win this election, I'll just say "anyone other than this fucking nut".
    And I absolutely would have considered voting for Kasich. Absolutely.

    Well I can't speak for you per se but everybody else on here would be saying how he was responsible for tanking Lehman Brothers and directly caused the 2008 market collapse. They would also be saying that he's a racist Hitler.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I think the Obama coalition will hold true on Election Day. I think that's only true though because of how poor of a candidate the Republicans chose in Donald Trump- especially against a weak candidate like Hillary Clinton.
    I think the more moderate members of the Obama voters who are staying with Clinton could have been swayed to a sensible GOP candidate. If this were Clinton/Romney...the big swing that we typically see after 8 years of one party in the White House would probably take place. This year though with these candidates? I just don't see that happening.

    Oh? Is Romney sensible now? The same Romney who the 80's called and asked for their foreign policy back? The same Romney with the binders full of women? The one with the dog on his roof? The one who gave a woman cancer? I love how every GOP candidate is "sensible" except when they are the actual candidate. This line I definitely am not buying. If John Kasich was the candidate you would all be calling him Hitler right now just like evey GOP candidate since the end of WWII.
    Your point is generally correct. I wasn't a Romney hater. I didn't like his social policies by and large, but that's a product of being tied to the base. I do hope that Democrats get a little more perspective after this douche bag. The problem is... who's next? Kasich? Great. Cruz? No thanks.
    You know your trying to talk sense to someone who just a few posts ago said that Trump has "allegedly" said sexist things right?

    There is not enough time the day.
  • eddiec
    eddiec Posts: 3,959
    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I think the Obama coalition will hold true on Election Day. I think that's only true though because of how poor of a candidate the Republicans chose in Donald Trump- especially against a weak candidate like Hillary Clinton.
    I think the more moderate members of the Obama voters who are staying with Clinton could have been swayed to a sensible GOP candidate. If this were Clinton/Romney...the big swing that we typically see after 8 years of one party in the White House would probably take place. This year though with these candidates? I just don't see that happening.

    Oh? Is Romney sensible now? The same Romney who the 80's called and asked for their foreign policy back? The same Romney with the binders full of women? The one with the dog on his roof? The one who gave a woman cancer? I love how every GOP candidate is "sensible" except when they are the actual candidate. This line I definitely am not buying. If John Kasich was the candidate you would all be calling him Hitler right now just like evey GOP candidate since the end of WWII.
    I like Kasich. Kasich beat Trump in Manhattan. If he was the candidate Hillary would be in big trouble.

  • fife
    fife Posts: 3,327
    eddiec said:

    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I think the Obama coalition will hold true on Election Day. I think that's only true though because of how poor of a candidate the Republicans chose in Donald Trump- especially against a weak candidate like Hillary Clinton.
    I think the more moderate members of the Obama voters who are staying with Clinton could have been swayed to a sensible GOP candidate. If this were Clinton/Romney...the big swing that we typically see after 8 years of one party in the White House would probably take place. This year though with these candidates? I just don't see that happening.

    Oh? Is Romney sensible now? The same Romney who the 80's called and asked for their foreign policy back? The same Romney with the binders full of women? The one with the dog on his roof? The one who gave a woman cancer? I love how every GOP candidate is "sensible" except when they are the actual candidate. This line I definitely am not buying. If John Kasich was the candidate you would all be calling him Hitler right now just like evey GOP candidate since the end of WWII.
    I like Kasich. Kasich beat Trump in Manhattan. If he was the candidate Hillary would be in big trouble.

    I don't know if you can say that because while yes kasich might get more of the middle voters he might also lose some of the voters who trump has gotten.
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    Bruce Springsteen on Donald Trump "Even him running is a great embarrassment if you are an American"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-cpbxz7jlc
  • The Juggler
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    fife said:

    eddiec said:

    BS44325 said:

    ledvedderman said:

    I think the Obama coalition will hold true on Election Day. I think that's only true though because of how poor of a candidate the Republicans chose in Donald Trump- especially against a weak candidate like Hillary Clinton.
    I think the more moderate members of the Obama voters who are staying with Clinton could have been swayed to a sensible GOP candidate. If this were Clinton/Romney...the big swing that we typically see after 8 years of one party in the White House would probably take place. This year though with these candidates? I just don't see that happening.

    Oh? Is Romney sensible now? The same Romney who the 80's called and asked for their foreign policy back? The same Romney with the binders full of women? The one with the dog on his roof? The one who gave a woman cancer? I love how every GOP candidate is "sensible" except when they are the actual candidate. This line I definitely am not buying. If John Kasich was the candidate you would all be calling him Hitler right now just like evey GOP candidate since the end of WWII.
    I like Kasich. Kasich beat Trump in Manhattan. If he was the candidate Hillary would be in big trouble.

    I don't know if you can say that because while yes kasich might get more of the middle voters he might also lose some of the voters who trump has gotten.
    .....but those voters Trump got all despise Hillary though. I think he would've gotten most of them as a vote "against" her in addition to gaining more of the middle people than Trump is going to get.

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  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    dignin said:

    Bruce Springsteen on Donald Trump "Even him running is a great embarrassment if you are an American"

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-cpbxz7jlc

    Too bad he prefers Hillary over Stein.
  • ledvedderman
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    Isn't Stein a 9/11 nut? That's certainly a nationwide candidate capable of winning.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    A financial wizard who can bring executive magic to government?

    Despite his towering properties, Mr. Trump has a record rife with bankruptcies and sketchy ventures like Trump University, which authorities are investigating after numerous complaints of fraud. His name has been chiseled off his failed casinos in Atlantic City.

    Mr. Trump’s brazen refusal to disclose his tax returns — as Mrs. Clinton and other nominees for decades have done — should sharpen voter wariness of his business and charitable operations. Disclosure would undoubtedly raise numerous red flags; the public record already indicates that in at least some years he made full use of available loopholes and paid no taxes.

    Mr. Trump has been opaque about his questionable global investments in Russia and elsewhere, which could present conflicts of interest as president, particularly if his business interests are left in the hands of his children, as he intends. Investigations have found self-dealing. He notably tapped $258,000 in donors’ money from his charitable foundation to settle lawsuits involving his for-profit businesses, according to The Washington Post.

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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    A Week of Whoppers From Donald Trump

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/24/us/elections/donald-trump-statements.html

    And my personal favorite, #31.
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  • HughFreakingDillon
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    Halifax2TheMax said:

    A Week of Whoppers From Donald Trump

    http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/09/24/us/elections/donald-trump-statements.html

    And my personal favorite, #31.

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  • Kat
    Kat Posts: 4,961
    #15 was news to me.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    The weekend America's newspapers called Donald Trump a liar

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/25/media/newspapers-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-lies/index.html?iid=ob_lockedrail_topeditorial
  • Jearlpam0925
    Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,532
    Jesus Christ. I can't believe some of you assholes are voting for this piece of garbage. I can't even watch anymore of this - not a goddamn thing of substance ever comes out of his mouth, but we know a ton of mouth breathing white people are going to vote for him anyway.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    edited September 2016
    Trump should ask Hillary if she paid for the white house furniture she took 15 years ago!
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Jearlpam0925 said:

    Jesus Christ. I can't believe some of you assholes are voting for this piece of garbage. I can't even watch anymore of this - not a goddamn thing of substance ever comes out of his mouth, but we know a ton of mouth breathing white people are going to vote for him anyway.

    He seems like his blood pressure is rising. Getting upset, just a bit when she was going after his business. She was a bit flustered on NAFTA.
  • JC29856
    JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    Trump missed opportunity...could have nailed Hillary on financial deregulation under Arkansas Bill
  • ledvedderman
    ledvedderman Posts: 7,762
    JC29856 said:

    Trump should ask Hillary if she paid for the white house furniture she took 15 years ago!

    That's right! Bring on important issues like that!
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