Bernie Sanders

Wow, I was looking through all the third party options from 2012 and 2008 elections. Jill Stein, Gary Johnson, Rosanne Barr ect.

Free said:

Bernie Sanders will launch organizations to spread progressive message

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/07/15/bernie-sanders-progressive-message/87073052/

That's a good idea.

Free said:

http://cnn-news.info/kucinich-a-major-third-event-is-coming/

Kucinich: A Major Third Event Is Coming

I wanted This guy to win years ago, before the system ousted him.

Would be very cool to see more Kucinich influence in this mess of a political system.

He said here, "Most millennials are independents by nature". Good! Time to shake things up! It won't be smooth, it won't be easy, but it's going to happen. It needs to happen.

Great interview!

Interview with a black Sanders delegate post convention:

JS: Well, from her perspective she’s trying to do what she can to help the movement she believes is necessary. As a Sanders delegate, why do you believe supporting Jill Stein is such a mistake?

RM: I had so many conversations this week about people who said that they were supporting Jill Stein. And to them I’ve tried making this point clear: I don’t have the privilege of supporting Jill Stein.

I’m black, and I have four black sons. Some white liberals have the privilege to pretend that Jill Stein is going to be taken seriously. I don’t. If Donald Trump wins, he's more likely to appoint judges that oppose Black Lives Matter and criminal justice reform, and who think that police officers — who can kill black people without being charged — already don't have enough power. That means if my kids get shot, the officers who did it would become less likely to be charged. A lot of white liberals don’t understand that they have the privilege of a protest vote that will hurt the people they purport to stand for — black people, immigrants, LGBTQ folks, and so many people who will be affected adversely if Trump wins.

If they stay home or vote for a third party — particularly in swing states — these folks are gambling with real lives. Because here’s the reality: They won’t be affected by the fallout. Their privilege will inoculate them to it, but minorities won’t be. I don’t understand how they could not see that.

So I don’t have the luxury of conviction. I can’t afford four years of tyranny. Trust me, I would love if Hillary had every position that Bernie has. But I live in the real world, and in the real world — even if Hillary isn’t 100 percent where I want her — at least I trust that she will be better than Trump for the people I love.

http://www.vox.com/2016/8/1/12337522/bernie-bust-sanders-delegate

PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

Why are people still talking about Sanders?

Why are you still talking about bandwidth?
Some folks just have a hard time moving on, I guess.

Degeneratefk said:

polaris_x said:

benjs said:

Honest question... If Sanders is the pro-transparency and anti-corruption candidate, and he recognized the lack of transparency and abundance of corruption in the party he was representing, and he failed to increase the transparency or decrease the corruption - why did he not go independent? Surely he is intelligent enough to recognize insurmountable stacked odds, but more than that - his sticking with a corrupt and opaque Party to me seems a betrayal to his own character.

pretty simple ... see the polling numbers of stein and johnson ... or even go back to ron paul ... it's a bit of a quagmire in that the current electoral system ultimately favours this 2-party system ... and the only way to increase transparency and decrease corruption is to break free from this system ...

the reality is that more than 2/3rds of the nation's votes don't really matter in this electoral system ... if you're in texas, california, arizona, washington, etc ... your vote won't mean diddly squat ...

it's this ruse of democracy that people think they are part of - when in reality it's a system that is probably the most undemocratic short of a dictatorship ...

edit: sorry ... to be more clear on your question ... sanders ran as a democrat probably because his best chance at changing things is to win as a democrat ... that's why ron paul ran as a republican ... people don't think 3rd parties can win so, people continue to work within this 2-party system ...

How was Ross Perot able to get 20 some percent?

he didn't quite get 20% but ya ... impressive ... he was loaded so he could finance a lot of his presidency run and they allowed him on debates ... it's much harder for a Sanders to run as an independent because without the backing of the DNC - his fundraising gets hampered significantly ...

^^^ What the...??

That endorsement is paying off well...

http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,21023646,00.html

Yeah, could be. Donations from the gullible.