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Bernie Sanders

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Bernie Sanders
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Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is an American politician and the incumbent junior United States Senator from Vermont. He is a candidate for the Democratic nomination for President of the United States in the 2016 election. A member of the Democratic Party since 2015,[2] Sanders had been the longest-serving independent in U.S. congressional history, though his caucusing with the Democrats entitled him to committee assignments and at times gave Democrats a majority. Sanders became the ranking minority member on the Senate Budget Committee in January 2015; he had previously served for two years as chair of the Senate Veterans' Affairs Committee. A self-proclaimed democratic socialist or social democrat,[3] Sanders is pro-labor and favors greater economic equality.[4][5]
Sanders was born and raised in Brooklyn, New York City, and graduated from the University of Chicago in 1964. While a student he was an active civil rights protest organizer for the Congress of Racial Equality and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee. After settling in Vermont in 1968, Sanders ran unsuccessful third-party campaigns for governor and U.S. senator in the early to mid-1970s. As an independent, he was elected mayor of Burlington—Vermont's most populous city—in 1981, where he was reelected three times. In 1990 he was elected to represent Vermont's at-large congressional district in the U.S. House of Representatives. In 1991 Sanders co-founded the Congressional Progressive Caucus. He served as a congressman for 16 years before being elected to the U.S. Senate in 2006. In 2012, he was reelected with 71% of the popular vote.

Sanders rose to national prominence following his 2010 filibuster against the Middle Class Tax Relief Act of 2010. He favors policies similar to those of social democratic parties in Europe, particularly those instituted by the Nordic countries, and has built a reputation as a leading progressive voice on issues such as campaign finance reform, corporate welfare, global warming, income inequality, LGBT rights, parental leave, and universal healthcare. Sanders has long been critical of U.S. foreign policy and was an early and outspoken opponent of the Iraq War. He is also outspoken on civil liberties and civil rights, particularly criticizing racial discrimination in the criminal justice system as well as advocating for privacy rights against mass surveillance policies such as the USA PATRIOT Act and the NSA surveillance programs.

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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,123
    Just is time for the Weekend!
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    muskydanmuskydan Posts: 1,013
    Jason P said:

    Just is time for the Weekend!

    Wrong guy, the Weekend at Bernie's was Dead and a lot more fun…He even got laid..lol
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,542
    edited June 2016
    Computer programmer claims computers can rig elections

    https://youtu.be/1thcO_olHas
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    ^^If y'all remember, the Diebold issue was heavily scrutinized in either 2000 or 2004. They made voting machines and were heavily aligned with the GOP and Bush.
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    TL170678TL170678 Near Louisville, in Indiana, closer to Kentucky Posts: 422
    edited June 2016
    I am not a supporter of Bernie, but there is no doubt in my mind that he was screwed.... He was doing sold out speeches at NBA arena`s while Hillary could barely fill HS gyms and auditoriums. Every Trump protest I watched on Info Wars and other channels where it showed a majority of the crowds, it was hundreds to thousands of Bernie or Trump supporters.... The only Hillary shirts were Hillary for Prison. That`s just my take.
    Hillary being able to pay off super delegates is where he was really screwed.
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    JC29856JC29856 Posts: 9,617
    The 2016 presidential campaign of Bernie Sanders, the junior United States Senator and former Representative from Vermont, began with a formal announcement by Sanders on May 26, 2015, in Burlington, Vermont, which followed an informal announcement on April 30.

    https://guccifer2.wordpress.com/2016/06/15/dnc/
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Sanders to Supporters: This Is Beginning of Our Revolution, Not End

    http://commondreams.org/news/2016/06/16/sanders-supporters-beginning-our-revolution-not-end
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    pjalive21pjalive21 St. Louis, MO Posts: 2,818
    TL170678 said:

    I am not a supporter of Bernie, but there is no doubt in my mind that he was screwed.... He was doing sold out speeches at NBA arena`s while Hillary could barely fill HS gyms and auditoriums. Every Trump protest I watched on Info Wars and other channels where it showed a majority of the crowds, it was hundreds to thousands of Bernie or Trump supporters.... The only Hillary shirts were Hillary for Prison. That`s just my take.
    Hillary being able to pay off super delegates is where he was really screwed.

    I'm not a supporter of his eithers, as I think he is part of the establishment problem with less soluble and concrete ideas than Trump, BUT I completely agree with your assessment this guy was selling out stadiums and Hillary had to play optical illusion to make it look like her living room was packed

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    jeffbrjeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    pjalive21 said:

    TL170678 said:

    I am not a supporter of Bernie, but there is no doubt in my mind that he was screwed.... He was doing sold out speeches at NBA arena`s while Hillary could barely fill HS gyms and auditoriums. Every Trump protest I watched on Info Wars and other channels where it showed a majority of the crowds, it was hundreds to thousands of Bernie or Trump supporters.... The only Hillary shirts were Hillary for Prison. That`s just my take.
    Hillary being able to pay off super delegates is where he was really screwed.

    I'm not a supporter of his eithers, as I think he is part of the establishment problem with less soluble and concrete ideas than Trump, BUT I completely agree with your assessment this guy was selling out stadiums and Hillary had to play optical illusion to make it look like her living room was packed

    The only thing that the large rallies tell us is that Bernie ran a tremendously successful grassroots campaign. His supporters were more active and more vocal. But Hillary still won the popular vote, the pledged delegates, and the superdelegates. Bernie handily won the caucuses in my state, and Hillary won the popular vote (primary) in my state. So Hillary has more support than Bernie, but Bernie's supporters did a better job at getting out and making noise.
    "I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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    what dreamswhat dreams Posts: 1,761
    Yes, I listened to the full speech on C-Span this morning. He concluded with the exact point I made in another thread. He encouraged his supporters to run for local and state offices. Attending rallies and posting on the Internet changes nothing. If you want to make a revolution stick, you have to be in a position of power. Run for office.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629

    Yes, I listened to the full speech on C-Span this morning. He concluded with the exact point I made in another thread. He encouraged his supporters to run for local and state offices. Attending rallies and posting on the Internet changes nothing. If you want to make a revolution stick, you have to be in a position of power. Run for office.

    Although they have had maybe moderate success, the Tea Party at least fielded a number of candidates. They did a fair job of parlaying a movement into office holders and more influence. Bernie's supporters should take a page.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited June 2016
    Debbie Wasserman Schultz Moving On From DNC; Sanders Confirms He’s In It to the Convention

    http://billmoyers.com/story/morning-reads-debbie-wasserman-schultz-moving-dnc-sanders-confirms-hes-convention/
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    ^^^
    Is there any way that he can't make it to the convention or is this just the next step?
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    pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    Come November, I am writing Mr. Sanders in for my vote :)
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539

    Come November, I am writing Mr. Sanders in for my vote :)

    I've been feeling same way lately. I have a hard time convincing myself to vote for someone who voted for Iraq war and wants to throw me in jail for smoking weed.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,534
    If enough people do that Trump will actually win. Yay. :neutral:
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576
    PJ_Soul said:

    If enough people do that Trump will actually win. Yay. :neutral:

    #Bernieorbust should be shortened to #Bust or just to #Trump.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    edited July 2016
    There gets to be a point how much we value our one and only vote. I choose not to have to vote the lesser of two evils, especially inasmuch these two, the least popular in American history. I can't. And won't. vote for a person not interested at ALL at what the consensus, the people of this country want. But rather what their donars want.
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    dot30dot30 The Great Midwest Posts: 83
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    Once you hold the hand of love, it's all surmountable.
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    I thought Sanders isn't going to win?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    dot30 said:

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    How can he win the general when he can't win the primary?
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    pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    Free said:

    There gets to be a point how much we value our one and only vote. I choose not to have to vote the lesser of two evils, especially inasmuch these two, the least popular in American history. I can't. And won't. vote for a person not interested at ALL at what the consensus, the people of this country want. But rather what their donars want.

    ^^^this
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    Free said:

    There gets to be a point how much we value our one and only vote. I choose not to have to vote the lesser of two evils, especially inasmuch these two, the least popular in American history. I can't. And won't. vote for a person not interested at ALL at what the consensus, the people of this country want. But rather what their donars want.

    ^^^this
    I value my vote so highly that I won't waste it on a candidate who has ZERO chance of winning when there is a dangerous demagogue like Trump a heartbeat away from leading the free world.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    pickupyourwillpickupyourwill Posts: 3,135
    rgambs said:

    Free said:

    There gets to be a point how much we value our one and only vote. I choose not to have to vote the lesser of two evils, especially inasmuch these two, the least popular in American history. I can't. And won't. vote for a person not interested at ALL at what the consensus, the people of this country want. But rather what their donars want.

    ^^^this
    I value my vote so highly that I won't waste it on a candidate who has ZERO chance of winning when there is a dangerous demagogue like Trump a heartbeat away from leading the free world.
    I don't know how voting Hillary to bump Trump out is even possible. Those people on the Trump train are brainwashed clones who think they are part of some narrow-minded movement to not be so "politically correct" all the time. The ones voting for him that aren't Confederate flag friendly, are just honest, hard-working American-Republicans that are now forced to vote for him because they've waited 8 long years to get their turn.

    I was just letting you all know what I'm voting--one tiny vote of idealism in a sea of some crazy election battle.

    If someone could actually provide tons and tons of proof that if we all banded together with Clinton we could knock out Trump--I might consider the closer we get. But I also don't trust all the polls and b.s.--it seems so rigged. Why would I want to throw away my one and only vote to people that think it could happen--no one knows what will really happen.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    In 2008, Nate Silver called 49 of50 states correctly. In 2012, it was all 50. The polls aren't BS. You have to read the aggregate and trend lines.
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    FreeFree Posts: 3,562
    Polls are BS and are used to persuade people to vote a certain way. They are used for nothing else.
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    Free said:

    Polls are BS and are used to persuade people to vote a certain way. They are used for nothing else.

    %100
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    dot30dot30 The Great Midwest Posts: 83
    mrussel1 said:

    dot30 said:

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    How can he win the general when he can't win the primary?
    I'm not even sure what Bernie's plan is for the general. The meme I posted is more related to the primary. If everyone who wanted him HAD voted for him in the primary, he may have been the nominee. I really liked Bernie's ideas early on, but didn't get to see a lot him without searching out his platform myself. What was fed to me by the media was that he was a kook that never had a chance because he was facing the almighty Clinton, and name recognition with her is what they were counting on to get people “not in the know politically” to vote for her. More people than you or I would like to know do not put much thought into who to vote for. They just wait to hear who looks like they are going to win as interpreted by the media and various polls and then vote that way. I know the media is not making an exception this election and that it has always been that way, but it needs to change. If there was a way to NOT release the results of ANY primary until after the last primary is held, that may encourage people to do at least a little research and vote for who they themselves support, whose ideas align with their own, and not let others' interpretation of who's in and who's out change their mind.
    Once you hold the hand of love, it's all surmountable.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,629
    You must be reading different media than me. The left leaning media like Huffpo, Rachel, etc, were absolutely pushing Bernie, starting right after NH. I always thought the media bias was a total myth perpetuated by the campaign team. Huffpo is one of the top sites on the Web and they were hard core Sanders.

    If you held results to the end of the primary season, then you have two practical problems. One is money to campaign. Let's take the GOPfor example. The donor money would be split among 16 candidates. That's impractical for a 50 state campaign. Second, there would likely be no candidate with enough votes to clinch coming out of the primary. That means delegates would decide the candidate, rendering the primary useless.
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    mrussel1 said:

    You must be reading different media than me. The left leaning media like Huffpo, Rachel, etc, were absolutely pushing Bernie, starting right after NH. I always thought the media bias was a total myth perpetuated by the campaign team. Huffpo is one of the top sites on the Web and they were hard core Sanders.

    If you held results to the end of the primary season, then you have two practical problems. One is money to campaign. Let's take the GOPfor example. The donor money would be split among 16 candidates. That's impractical for a 50 state campaign. Second, there would likely be no candidate with enough votes to clinch coming out of the primary. That means delegates would decide the candidate, rendering the primary useless.

    Interesting you feel that way about Huffpost. I felt they have been more tilted towards Hillary this entire process. You can't go in Huffpost website without a Hillary ad smaking you in the face every five seconds. I'm with Her, Win dinner with Hillary! Ect ect.
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