Hillary won more votes for President

PJ_Soul · July 2016

BS44325 said:

pickupyourwill said:

mrussel1 said:

pickupyourwill said:
I don't know what's worse sometimes---the huge amount of people having no problem supporting the Clintons because their marriages too are mainly business only (infidelity can always be overlooked--let's face it--that's the reality of long-term marriage these days)----OR the huge amount of self-righteous Republican women who criticize Hillary for her decision to stay with Bill long before the e-mail nonsense, but ironically have been married forever and have husbands who have been cheating on them behind their backs all these years. There is so much hypocrisy in this country.
I guess I don't pretend to understand other people's marriages. That is between them and none of our business. I do find it ironic that Hillary is criticized for staying with Bill for richer or poor, good times and in bad, and criticized by the party of "family values".
Whenever I've asked my Republican family why they hate Hillary so much, it is usually because of the lying--"can't trust her", they say--the e-mails, whatever questionable scam the Clintons were involved in Arkansas--can't think of the name--things like that--decisions she made as a Senator after Bill's reign. So the whole infidelity thing really is small potatoes with them, I guess. BUT the fact that it was so public and out there-----I wonder how many outstanding Republican presidents were unfaithful as well--but some of these ignorant Republican women just go on living in their naive bubble. I actually have a hard time looking at any marriage nowadays as what it used to stand for in that area. As far as their "You can't trust her" motto they have going...PLEASE-- You can't trust Trump either hyprocrits who are voting for him and the whole time saying "Atleast its not Hillary"--get over your fucking selves.
My dislike for Hillary has zero to do with Bill's behaviour, Hillary's enabling and/or the state of their marriage. But based on these facts I certainly wouldn't allow either of them or the democratic party to play the woman card.

Allow? Huh?
You must be joking. You disapprove of a woman "playing the woman card"? That doesn't even make sense. She's a woman, so she's not playing anything. That she's a woman is a real, absolute fact that really matters to the March towards general equality. I am not suggesting that anyone vote for her just because she's a woman (i would never do that FYI), but damn, if a woman becomes POTUS in a country and a world where women are STILL oppressed by men in a thousand different ways, it still certainly does matter.

Cliffy6745 · July 2016

Anyone who offers a public opinion on anyone else's marriage or judges someone they don't know based on a marriage is an asshole. Plain and simple.

PJ_Soul · July 2016

Cliffy6745 said:
Anyone who offers a public opinion on anyone else's marriage or judges someone they don't know based on a marriage is an asshole. Plain and simple.

As far as quality of the private relationship goes, usually I would agree (there are always exceptions.... I.e. if abuse is in the picture things change). It also seems reasonable when someone's statements directly contradict their marital situation (i.e. say if Trump insults someone else's marriage record while he's on his third marriage). And I think one might be smart to judge someone based on WHO they are married to, depending on the person.

Cliffy6745 · July 2016

PJ_Soul said:

Cliffy6745 said:
Anyone who offers a public opinion on anyone else's marriage or judges someone they don't know based on a marriage is an asshole. Plain and simple.
As far as quality of the relationship goes, usually I would agree (there are always exceptions.... I.e. if abuse is in the picture things change). I think one might be smart to judge someone based on WHO they are married to, depending on the situation.

Fair points, especially on the abuse. Too many people these days put their nose in other peoples relationships. We're all adults and make our own decisions. I have plenty of friends whose spouse I do not like one bit, but it's not my relationship...

Agreed on the abuse.

g under p · July 2016

mrussel1 said:

Jason P said:

Kat said:
I enjoyed President Clinton's speech last night, especially the story about Hillary being undercover at the segregated school...a real gotcha moment lol. Found this today...she sure does get around. You know who that rocker is with her, right?

assets.teamrock.com/image/509973ac-d089-4ebc-917d-b9391a9de5d1?w=800
It's from this article. http://teamrock.com/news/2016-07-27/metallica-free-new-york-global-citizen-show-2016
I hope Metallica plays "Don't Tread on Me"!

I really hope they don't... it was the song that, when it came out, made me say.."what the fuck happened to this band?" When did they become pro-war jingoists? You couldn't have a more opposite song from One or For Whom the Bell Tolls.

The same could be said for the songs No Remorse or Disposeable Heroes.

Peace

brianlux · July 2016

Indifference71 said:

brianlux said:
I can't vote for Hillary to vote against Trump. I'm voting for Jill Stein. Mind made, done with this bullshit.
I'm right with ya. Except Gary Johnson is my guy. I couldn't stomach voting for Hillary just in spite of Trump.

Right on. Vote your conscience. No more lesser of two evils bullshit!

BS44325 · July 2016

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

pickupyourwill said:

mrussel1 said:

pickupyourwill said:
I don't know what's worse sometimes---the huge amount of people having no problem supporting the Clintons because their marriages too are mainly business only (infidelity can always be overlooked--let's face it--that's the reality of long-term marriage these days)----OR the huge amount of self-righteous Republican women who criticize Hillary for her decision to stay with Bill long before the e-mail nonsense, but ironically have been married forever and have husbands who have been cheating on them behind their backs all these years. There is so much hypocrisy in this country.
I guess I don't pretend to understand other people's marriages. That is between them and none of our business. I do find it ironic that Hillary is criticized for staying with Bill for richer or poor, good times and in bad, and criticized by the party of "family values".
Whenever I've asked my Republican family why they hate Hillary so much, it is usually because of the lying--"can't trust her", they say--the e-mails, whatever questionable scam the Clintons were involved in Arkansas--can't think of the name--things like that--decisions she made as a Senator after Bill's reign. So the whole infidelity thing really is small potatoes with them, I guess. BUT the fact that it was so public and out there-----I wonder how many outstanding Republican presidents were unfaithful as well--but some of these ignorant Republican women just go on living in their naive bubble. I actually have a hard time looking at any marriage nowadays as what it used to stand for in that area. As far as their "You can't trust her" motto they have going...PLEASE-- You can't trust Trump either hyprocrits who are voting for him and the whole time saying "Atleast its not Hillary"--get over your fucking selves.
My dislike for Hillary has zero to do with Bill's behaviour, Hillary's enabling and/or the state of their marriage. But based on these facts I certainly wouldn't allow either of them or the democratic party to play the woman card.
Allow? Huh?
You must be joking. You disapprove of a woman "playing the woman card"? That doesn't even make sense. She's a woman, so she's not playing anything. That she's a woman is a real, absolute fact that really matters to the March towards general equality. I am not suggesting that anyone vote for her just because she's a woman (i would never do that FYI), but damn, if a woman becomes POTUS in a country and a world where women are STILL oppressed by men in a thousand different ways, it still certainly does matter.

Sorry. A woman who enabled the character assassination of sexually assaulted women does not get to play the woman card. A woman who behaves that way is only concerned about her advancement and not the advancement of other women.

PJ_Soul · July 2016

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

pickupyourwill said:

mrussel1 said:

pickupyourwill said:
I don't know what's worse sometimes---the huge amount of people having no problem supporting the Clintons because their marriages too are mainly business only (infidelity can always be overlooked--let's face it--that's the reality of long-term marriage these days)----OR the huge amount of self-righteous Republican women who criticize Hillary for her decision to stay with Bill long before the e-mail nonsense, but ironically have been married forever and have husbands who have been cheating on them behind their backs all these years. There is so much hypocrisy in this country.
I guess I don't pretend to understand other people's marriages. That is between them and none of our business. I do find it ironic that Hillary is criticized for staying with Bill for richer or poor, good times and in bad, and criticized by the party of "family values".
Whenever I've asked my Republican family why they hate Hillary so much, it is usually because of the lying--"can't trust her", they say--the e-mails, whatever questionable scam the Clintons were involved in Arkansas--can't think of the name--things like that--decisions she made as a Senator after Bill's reign. So the whole infidelity thing really is small potatoes with them, I guess. BUT the fact that it was so public and out there-----I wonder how many outstanding Republican presidents were unfaithful as well--but some of these ignorant Republican women just go on living in their naive bubble. I actually have a hard time looking at any marriage nowadays as what it used to stand for in that area. As far as their "You can't trust her" motto they have going...PLEASE-- You can't trust Trump either hyprocrits who are voting for him and the whole time saying "Atleast its not Hillary"--get over your fucking selves.
My dislike for Hillary has zero to do with Bill's behaviour, Hillary's enabling and/or the state of their marriage. But based on these facts I certainly wouldn't allow either of them or the democratic party to play the woman card.
Allow? Huh?
You must be joking. You disapprove of a woman "playing the woman card"? That doesn't even make sense. She's a woman, so she's not playing anything. That she's a woman is a real, absolute fact that really matters to the March towards general equality. I am not suggesting that anyone vote for her just because she's a woman (i would never do that FYI), but damn, if a woman becomes POTUS in a country and a world where women are STILL oppressed by men in a thousand different ways, it still certainly does matter.
Sorry. A woman who enabled the character assassination of sexually assaulted women does not get to play the woman card. A woman who behaves that way is only concerned about her advancement and not the advancement of other women.

That's ridiculous. Any woman can play the woman card.

BS44325 · July 2016

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

PJ_Soul said:

BS44325 said:

pickupyourwill said:

mrussel1 said:

pickupyourwill said:
I don't know what's worse sometimes---the huge amount of people having no problem supporting the Clintons because their marriages too are mainly business only (infidelity can always be overlooked--let's face it--that's the reality of long-term marriage these days)----OR the huge amount of self-righteous Republican women who criticize Hillary for her decision to stay with Bill long before the e-mail nonsense, but ironically have been married forever and have husbands who have been cheating on them behind their backs all these years. There is so much hypocrisy in this country.
I guess I don't pretend to understand other people's marriages. That is between them and none of our business. I do find it ironic that Hillary is criticized for staying with Bill for richer or poor, good times and in bad, and criticized by the party of "family values".
Whenever I've asked my Republican family why they hate Hillary so much, it is usually because of the lying--"can't trust her", they say--the e-mails, whatever questionable scam the Clintons were involved in Arkansas--can't think of the name--things like that--decisions she made as a Senator after Bill's reign. So the whole infidelity thing really is small potatoes with them, I guess. BUT the fact that it was so public and out there-----I wonder how many outstanding Republican presidents were unfaithful as well--but some of these ignorant Republican women just go on living in their naive bubble. I actually have a hard time looking at any marriage nowadays as what it used to stand for in that area. As far as their "You can't trust her" motto they have going...PLEASE-- You can't trust Trump either hyprocrits who are voting for him and the whole time saying "Atleast its not Hillary"--get over your fucking selves.
My dislike for Hillary has zero to do with Bill's behaviour, Hillary's enabling and/or the state of their marriage. But based on these facts I certainly wouldn't allow either of them or the democratic party to play the woman card.
Allow? Huh?
You must be joking. You disapprove of a woman "playing the woman card"? That doesn't even make sense. She's a woman, so she's not playing anything. That she's a woman is a real, absolute fact that really matters to the March towards general equality. I am not suggesting that anyone vote for her just because she's a woman (i would never do that FYI), but damn, if a woman becomes POTUS in a country and a world where women are STILL oppressed by men in a thousand different ways, it still certainly does matter.
Sorry. A woman who enabled the character assassination of sexually assaulted women does not get to play the woman card. A woman who behaves that way is only concerned about her advancement and not the advancement of other women.
That's ridiculous. Any woman can play the woman card.

They can but they just might get laughed at while they do it.

Jason P · July 2016

Virginia senator Tim Kaine will be Hillary Clinton’s running mate on the Democratic Party ticket in the 2016 presidential election. Here’s what you need to know about Kaine:

Children:
Nat Kaine—an active duty infantry officer in the United States Marine Corps—and two others

Previous Occupation:
Prospective vice presidential candidate

Years Spent Sort Of Blending Into Scenery:
58

Religious Views:
Weird kind of Catholic where you don’t let it affect your political decision-making

Likability:
It’s becoming increasingly clear this doesn’t matter

Favorite Food:
Plain

Relationship To Banks:
Committed, long-term

Childhood Dream:
To help shore up support among conservative Democrats and secure a pivotal swing state

Biggest Strength:
Can speak Spanish almost as well as the many actual Hispanic candidates Clinton could have chosen

Biggest Liability:
As Virginia governor, appointed Robert Bloxom as State Secretary of Agriculture and Forestry, and look how that shit-for-brains fucked everything up

Volunteer Work:
Has worked as missionary converting Hondurans and, more recently, undecided voters

Political Positions:
Please refer to HillaryClinton.com

theonion.com/infographic/who-tim-kaine-53348

rssesq · July 2016

Didn't she try to put the blame on a teenaged intern for throwing herself at Billy when she was the first lady?

OffSheGoes35 · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

Free said:

Kat said:
I enjoyed President Clinton's speech last night, especially the story about Hillary being undercover at the segregated school...a real gotcha moment lol. Found this today...she sure does get around. You know who that rocker is with her, right?

assets.teamrock.com/image/509973ac-d089-4ebc-917d-b9391a9de5d1?w=800
It's from this article. http://teamrock.com/news/2016-07-27/metallica-free-new-york-global-citizen-show-2016
Are we supposed to be impressed w/ not only Lars Ulrich but any celebrity? Oh, there's a celebrity! I must believe Hillary for every word she tells me because she standing with a rockstar.

Pbt.
Really? The Republicans threw Chachi up there.

Hey! Charles is in Charge of my vote. And Kirk Cameron is in charge of my eternal salvation. And I'm going to look into the strength of Leif Garrett's financial acumen, and then I will be all set!!

Boxes&Books · July 2016

Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?

Degeneratefk · July 2016

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?

She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?

PJfanwillneverleave1 · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?

Yeah somewhere that isn't being covered.
There is no appetite to have her splashed all over the news with a press conference.
People want to hear Trump.

Boxes&Books · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?

Giving a prepared speech isn't an interview. It isn't a press conference. George Bush did the same. This crook isn't even in office yet and she's already dodging reporters.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?
Giving a prepared speech isn't an interview. It isn't a press conference. George Bush did the same. This crook isn't even in office yet and she's already dodging reporters.

This was a few days ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWrTnyk_WE&spfreload=10

Boxes&Books · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?
Giving a prepared speech isn't an interview. It isn't a press conference. George Bush did the same. This crook isn't even in office yet and she's already dodging reporters.
This was a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWrTnyk_WE&spfreload=10

Yeah, but do you realize a big portion of the interview was not aired? Read through the damn post.

Degeneratefk · July 2016

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?
Giving a prepared speech isn't an interview. It isn't a press conference. George Bush did the same. This crook isn't even in office yet and she's already dodging reporters.
This was a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWrTnyk_WE&spfreload=10
Yeah, but do you realize a big portion of the interview was not aired? Read through the damn post.

I've got a feeling that no matter what I find, it would be enough. You said she hasn't been doing any press, well, she has been. I guess CBS doesn't qualify as an alternative news source.

Boxes&Books · July 2016

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:

Degeneratefk said:

tonifig8 said:
Why hasn't Hillary given a press conference? It's Been months. Is this something she learned from George w bush?
She gives a speech every other day somewhere. What do you want her to say?
Giving a prepared speech isn't an interview. It isn't a press conference. George Bush did the same. This crook isn't even in office yet and she's already dodging reporters.
This was a few days ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTWrTnyk_WE&spfreload=10
Yeah, but do you realize a big portion of the interview was not aired? Read through the damn post.
I've got a feeling that no matter what I find, it would be enough. You said she hasn't been doing any press, well, she has been. I guess CBS doesn't qualify as an alternative news source.

She hasn't, but what do you care? You're still with her and that fact is perfectly fine with you, just like I'm sure you were fine with Bush was doing it. The difference here is that if we, on the left, had a candidate who won fair and square and wasn't surrounded with loads of shit we would have probably united already- That means anyone who won fair and square would have probably had our support already!!! Get that through your head! We aren't with her because she is shady as shit! That's it! Not because she's a woman, not because she's an establishment candidate, not because of whatever other excuse you want to come out with.

Hillary won more votes for President

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