Another Attack in France (Nice)
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I know, I know, should have known bettergimmesometruth27 said:
you should not feed trolls if you want to have an actual discussion consisting of facts.0 -
Fact - You conveniently left out that no matter how many people want a do-over they can't.gimmesometruth27 said:
you conveniently left out that 5 million brits asked for a do-over vote and that they regret voting to leave. but if it doesn't fit the narrative i can see why.
Liberal on the fence no decision makers made this happen.0 -
no, stupid right wing trumpian politicians made it happen. then they bailed and decided that they did not want to hold major government positions afterward.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Fact - You conveniently left out that no matter how many people want a do-over they can't.
Liberal on the fence no decision makers made this happen."You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
People can make links and draw conclusions all they like but that doesn't necessarily make them valid. The facts we have suggest that the attacker was a man with a history of violence, both within the family and with strangers. He has a conviction for a violent offence. There is no evidence that he was affiliated with or directed by any radical groups, and none have claimed responsibility (I hate to call it "credit") for the attack. Driving a truck into a crowd of people is not a sophisticated attack that requires coordination or planning. Ar this point he appears to be a violent guy who seized on an opportunity to commit violence on a massive scale, but that doesn't make this an ISIS-led terrorist attack. To assume it does gives them too much credit and feeds the terror machine, the fears of world-wide annihilation. They would be very pleased by that.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Well here are two facts.
The "events" in Nice are linked to radical Islam.
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you don't see thismy small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/16/europe/france-attack-on-nice-isis/index.html?adkey=bn
Could be ISIS related afterall. Still not official yet.0 -
It doesn't matter. The point was they did it and the world continues to devolve.gimmesometruth27 said:
you conveniently left out that 5 million brits asked for a do-over vote and that they regret voting to leave. but if it doesn't fit the narrative i can see why.
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What the hell does Trump have to do with a vote in Britain? He's that powerful abroad already?gimmesometruth27 said:
no, stupid right wing trumpian politicians made it happen. then they bailed and decided that they did not want to hold major government positions afterward.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
Actually, you could probably blame Stephen King as much as anyone. I'm not but just sayin. Not that the idea is that original, but he is the most popular writer of our time and just had a best selling trilogy that starts out with this basic premise.oftenreading said:
People can make links and draw conclusions all they like but that doesn't necessarily make them valid. The facts we have suggest that the attacker was a man with a history of violence, both within the family and with strangers. He has a conviction for a violent offence. There is no evidence that he was affiliated with or directed by any radical groups, and none have claimed responsibility (I hate to call it "credit") for the attack. Driving a truck into a crowd of people is not a sophisticated attack that requires coordination or planning. Ar this point he appears to be a violent guy who seized on an opportunity to commit violence on a massive scale, but that doesn't make this an ISIS-led terrorist attack. To assume it does gives them too much credit and feeds the terror machine, the fears of world-wide annihilation. They would be very pleased by that.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
Sure, you could draw lots of links. Which isn't to say that I'm denying there could be a formal link to a terrorist group; just that I'd prefer not to jump to conclusions and give them too much power.EdsonNascimento said:
Actually, you could probably blame Stephen King as much as anyone. I'm not but just sayin. Not that the idea is that original, but he is the most popular writer of our time and just had a best selling trilogy that starts out with this basic premise.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
I just saw this:
Police arrest three in Nice as Islamic State claims truck attack
By Richard Lough,Reuters 21 minutes ago Comments
By Richard Lough
NICE, France (Reuters) - Islamic State claimed responsibility for the truck attack in the French city of Nice on Saturday and police arrested three more people there after the carnage that claimed the lives of at least 84 people.
"The person who carried out the operation in Nice, France, to run down people was one of the soldiers of Islamic State," the news agency Amaq, which supports the militant Islamist group, said via its Telegram account.
"He carried out the operation in response to calls to target nationals of states that are part of the coalition fighting Islamic State," the statement said.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Agree. I was sharing your view. It would be nice if our President took the same approach of not jumping to convenient conclusions with police shootings.oftenreading said:
Sure, you could draw lots of links. Which isn't to say that I'm denying there could be a formal link to a terrorist group; just that I'd prefer not to jump to conclusions and give them too much power.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
No its not.BS44325 said:
Things were not great in 2008 but right now your country and this world is teetering on the edge of disaster.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
we will find a way, we will find our place0 -
No, it is worse when terrorists in Iraq and Syria don't even need to coordinate the attacks that happen in France and the USA. They are winning.oftenreading said:
People can make links and draw conclusions all they like but that doesn't necessarily make them valid. The facts we have suggest that the attacker was a man with a history of violence, both within the family and with strangers. He has a conviction for a violent offence. There is no evidence that he was affiliated with or directed by any radical groups, and none have claimed responsibility (I hate to call it "credit") for the attack. Driving a truck into a crowd of people is not a sophisticated attack that requires coordination or planning. Ar this point he appears to be a violent guy who seized on an opportunity to commit violence on a massive scale, but that doesn't make this an ISIS-led terrorist attack. To assume it does gives them too much credit and feeds the terror machine, the fears of world-wide annihilation. They would be very pleased by that.
This is why we need to fight terrorism in the middle east and not bring the fight to the West through migration. Sure 95% won't become terrorists, but that 5% will create more chaos than we will know how to deal with. It happened in France. It happened. It is right in front of our faces yet some of you still deny it.
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Actually and factually the vote is not binding...PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Fact - You conveniently left out that no matter how many people want a do-over they can't.
Liberal on the fence no decision makers made this happen.
This is because parliament is sovereign and referendums are generally not binding in the UK.
Parliament can choose to ignore the vote.0 -
because the leaders were uneducated blowhards just like trump. they whipped unimformed people up into a tizzy, got them to vote the way they wanted them to vote, and bailed when they found out how hard it would be to lead. the exact same thing trump is doing and will do when things get hard.EdsonNascimento said:
What the hell does Trump have to do with a vote in Britain? He's that powerful abroad already?"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
drawing links before we have all the information?
you know who else drew links? bill cosby, with mortimer ichabod marker
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."0 -
I wonder who he violated the day that picture was taken.
Oops! Sorry. Too soon?If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done. - EV0 -
What have you accomplished vs what Trump has accomplished? What makes you believe he's uninformed? What makes you think the British folks are uninformed?gimmesometruth27 said:
because the leaders were uneducated blowhards just like trump. they whipped unimformed people up into a tizzy, got them to vote the way they wanted them to vote, and bailed when they found out how hard it would be to lead. the exact same thing trump is doing and will do when things get hard.
Oh, yeah. They don't agree with you. Aren't you a physical therapist? What do you know of world affairs that all those people don't? what is your information based on that theirs isn't? I'm baffled by how educated you are on what other people know.Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.0 -
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What makes you think a non politician like Trump knows everything about it?EdsonNascimento said:
What have you accomplished vs what Trump has accomplished? What makes you believe he's uninformed? What makes you think the British folks are uninformed?
Oh, yeah. They don't agree with you. Aren't you a physical therapist? What do you know of world affairs that all those people don't? what is your information based on that theirs isn't? I'm baffled by how educated you are on what other people know.
See? I can post strawmen too!Post edited by InHiding80 on0
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