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Ha ha funny you want facts about Bush & Cheney ignoring intelligence that in fact there wasn't any WOMD ..PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Sounds like two opinions to me.josevolution said:
Now that is a FACT !InHiding80 said:
But that gets overlooked because he's not a Kenyan Muslim black democrat. Con math, ladies and gents.josevolution said:
Last time a Republican president ignored facts it cost this country 4 thousand American lives !PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
No supporters believed him.
He was disproven so fast they didn't even have time to agree.
Where is the evidence and science behind that fact?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
I was referring to But that gets overlooked because he's not a Kenyan Muslim black democrat. Con math, ladies and gents.josevolution said:
Ha ha funny you want facts about Bush & Cheney ignoring intelligence that in fact there wasn't any WOMD ..PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Sounds like two opinions to me.josevolution said:
Now that is a FACT !InHiding80 said:
But that gets overlooked because he's not a Kenyan Muslim black democrat. Con math, ladies and gents.josevolution said:
Last time a Republican president ignored facts it cost this country 4 thousand American lives !PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
No supporters believed him.
He was disproven so fast they didn't even have time to agree.
Where is the evidence and science behind that fact?0 -
March 2011 – Donald Trump, the property tycoon and potential Republican presidential candidate, reignites the issue by saying he has “doubts” about Mr Obama’s account of his birth.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He may have said that but it was found to be untrue and he moved on.josevolution said:
Just like his supporters he's the same way Obama proved he was born American to this day Trump will swear Obama is not an American remember he kept saying that the Orlando shooter was from Afghanistan when in fact he was born here ..myoung321 said:It would really helpful to find some open-minded conservatives that will listen to actual facts and science.. Like the other day... someone posting talking about Obama record low approval ratings.. Then the poster was shown actual facts... even facts based from his/her own original source. They were still argued and ignored..
How can you even have a legitimate debate with someone that ignores facts and in some cases science?
Big deal.
DONALD TRUMP:
I am saying I want to see the birth certificate. It’s very simple. I want to see the birth certificate. How come his own family doesn’t know which hospital he was born in? How come– forget about birth certificates. Let’s say there’s no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the…in the hospital itself, there’s no records of his birth. In other words, it doesn’t say how much they paid, where is the doctor, here’s your room bill. You know, all the
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?
DONALD TRUMP:
Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious
2012 - Even though Trump didn't end up running for president in 2012, the birther question did become a talking point in the campaign because of Trump's support for candidates such as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
2013 - He continued to defend his decision to bring up the issue, and told ABC News’ John Karl in 2013 that he knew what he was doing. "I don't think I went overboard. Actually, I think it made me very popular... I do think I know what I'm doing," Trump said in 2013.
He basically admits lying to stupid people for popularity... that's your guy!
Should we see how long its taken him to not realize Obama is a Muslim?Post edited by myoung321 on"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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Don't compare Johnny to the trolls here and other sites. Most of today's republicans don't want to associate with anyone even slightly to the left of Hitler and have labeled George Will a closet liberal this week ffs. They're so stubborn they'll only watch movies with Dinesh, Kirk Cameron and Kevin Sorbo.InHiding80 said:
Not every republican, conservative, or trump supporter thinks about Obama as a Muslim, or Kenyan. Just like not every liberal, democrat, or Obama supporter is poor, wants a government handout, doesn't want to work. These are stereo types that the media feeds you, maybe a few vocal people online constantly talk about so you get the impression that that's how it is. I do feel bad for the conservatives on this board. You guys hammer them hard. Which is surprising seeing as I thought the liberals were the ones that are supposed to be the open minded and more caring. Lots of digs, personal attacks, name calling, and throw away humor to validate their points. Weird.mattsl1983 said:Obama "kenyan muslim" or "kenyan marxist" or "secret muslim" believers and Trump supporters that listen to Pearl Jam is still working its way around my logic centers. I guess to some the lyrics mean nothing.
I know I know this has been discussed many times.. not wanting to get into it at all.. just my confusion
To address the confusing logic of some that don't understand how a non-liberal can enjoy Pearl Jam, it is pretty simple. The music is great. They have very few political songs, which I enjoy. I enjoy all the lyrics. I think the world would be better if people listened to opposing views and simply not just dismiss them or try and talk over them. It's the same logic as how Ed and Johnny Ramon were close friends. Everyone's logic has flaws. Mine, yours, Eddie's, ect. It's all about having an open mind.
As for your open minded comment, not putting up with close minded people like pjfan isn't close mindedness or intolerance ffs. If it quacks like an idiot, it is one.
Very bold statements and opinions. It seems to me like you have it all figured out. Naw, again stereo typing and viewing anyone that disagrees with how you want them to be. Key word is want.0 -
Thanks I'm at work on phone so I really can't pull links and post them , but yeah he believes all his lies I mean Trump ..myoung321 said:
March 2011 – Donald Trump, the property tycoon and potential Republican presidential candidate, reignites the issue by saying he has “doubts” about Mr Obama’s account of his birth.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
He may have said that but it was found to be untrue and he moved on.josevolution said:
Just like his supporters he's the same way Obama proved he was born American to this day Trump will swear Obama is not an American remember he kept saying that the Orlando shooter was from Afghanistan when in fact he was born here ..myoung321 said:It would really helpful to find some open-minded conservatives that will listen to actual facts and science.. Like the other day... someone posting talking about Obama record low approval ratings.. Then the poster was shown actual facts... even facts based from his/her own original source. They were still argued and ignored..
How can you even have a legitimate debate with someone that ignores facts and in some cases science?
Big deal.
DONALD TRUMP:
I am saying I want to see the birth certificate. It’s very simple. I want to see the birth certificate. How come his own family doesn’t know which hospital he was born in? How come– forget about birth certificates. Let’s say there’s no birth certificate. How come in the hospital itself, okay? This is one of the…in the hospital itself, there’s no records of his birth. In other words, it doesn’t say how much they paid, where is the doctor, here’s your room bill. You know, all the
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You’ve been privy to all of this to know this?
DONALD TRUMP:
Well, I have people that actually have been studying it and they cannot believe what they’re talking.
MEREDITH VIEIRA:
You have people now out there searching– I mean, in Hawaii?
DONALD TRUMP:
Absolutely. And they cannot believe what they’re finding. And I’m serious
2012 - Even though Trump didn't end up running for president in 2012, the birther question did become a talking point in the campaign because of Trump's support for candidates such as former Massachusetts Gov. Mitt Romney.
2013 - He continued to defend his decision to bring up the issue, and told ABC News’ John Karl in 2013 that he knew what he was doing. "I don't think I went overboard. Actually, I think it made me very popular... I do think I know what I'm doing," Trump said in 2013.
He basically admits lying to stupid people for popularity... that's your guy!
Should we see how long its taken him to not realize Obama is a Muslim?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
OkPJfanwillneverleave1 said:
I was referring to But that gets overlooked because he's not a Kenyan Muslim black democrat. Con math, ladies and gents.josevolution said:
Ha ha funny you want facts about Bush & Cheney ignoring intelligence that in fact there wasn't any WOMD ..PJfanwillneverleave1 said:
Sounds like two opinions to me.josevolution said:
Now that is a FACT !InHiding80 said:
But that gets overlooked because he's not a Kenyan Muslim black democrat. Con math, ladies and gents.josevolution said:
Last time a Republican president ignored facts it cost this country 4 thousand American lives !PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
No supporters believed him.
He was disproven so fast they didn't even have time to agree.
Where is the evidence and science behind that fact?jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
George Will Liberal..... now that's funny and disturbing at the same time."The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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and the Entire Iraq Warjosevolution said:
Last time a Republican president ignored facts it cost this country 4 thousand American lives !PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
No supporters believed him.
He was disproven so fast they didn't even have time to agree.
"The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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Yep a fucking tragedy I call it ! Unreal that people can just wipe it away as if it's irrelevant now !myoung321 said:
and the Entire Iraq Warjosevolution said:
Last time a Republican president ignored facts it cost this country 4 thousand American lives !PJfanwillneverleave1 said:^^^
No supporters believed him.
He was disproven so fast they didn't even have time to agree.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
Didn't Hilary vote in 2002 with a yes? Also I think if you want to use the Bush/Iraq war as a point, you can't ignor that Democrats gave us Vietnam. We can't just wipe that one away as if it's irrelevant either.0
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I think i just peed itself a lIttle.PJfanwillneverleave1 said:I am the most open-minded liberal on these boards and I agree that the conservatives get hit pretty hard here.
will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Kennedys cabinet, the best and the brightest, gravitated to the GOP during the 70s because the Democrats became peaceniks. They were the forefathers of the neocons.mattsl1983 said:Didn't Hilary vote in 2002 with a yes? Also I think if you want to use the Bush/Iraq war as a point, you can't ignor that Democrats gave us Vietnam. We can't just wipe that one away as if it's irrelevant either.
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Are we talking the same 70's when a republican president ended the war?0
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Under tremendous public pressure. He had to run on Peace with Dignity, but he kept the effort going after LBJ. They all feel victim to the Domino Theory.0
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So that is a yes democrats gave us Vietnam and republican ended it?0
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Yesmattsl1983 said:So that is a yes democrats gave us Vietnam and republican ended it?
But we took it over from the French.0 -
Dude those are tired arguments that have no relevance to today. Both parties escalated the conflict, just like Korea. If you boil things down to such a simplistic level, then you are likely a dittohead.mattsl1983 said:So that is a yes democrats gave us Vietnam and republican ended it?
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Not a tired argument. Perfectly valid and relevant when you want to say that Republicans sent us to Iraq as a reason not to vote republican. A dittohead? Is that what someone is when they have valid points that you don't like? Or you just dismiss their points and call them a dittohead?0
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So because the Republicans sent us into a senseless war in iraq, it's relevant somehow that the Democrats sent us to Vietnam 45 years ago?
I guess you win.will myself to find a home, a home within myself
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Have fun... departing the train here for a while."The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
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