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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882

    eddiec said:

    No matter how he changes his tone he will not garner the minority votes that is a fact !!

    With all due respect Jose, neither candidate gives a shit about minorities- sure they want the votes but don't think for a moment either white candidate gives a shit about anything but themselves and their rich friends. Sad, but the truth. As every election cycle proves, the "hope and change" mantra and dreams they spew are only to get themselves in office.
    Neither do the majority of voters.

    You said it...we can't fault Obama for not trying. The GOP congress has done its best to destroy anything Obama has tried. Then they bitch when he issues an executive order.

    Aren't congressmen elected every 2 years by the people? Sounds like you're blaming the system for working like it's supposed to. Of course people will bitch about executive orders, that's not how it's supposed to work.
    The Founders didn't intend for the abuse of the cloture or the fillibustering that occurs with every bill today. Essentially nothing gets passed without 2/3 of the Senate. That was never the intention. Both sides have taken advantage of arcane procedural rules.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192

    eddiec said:

    No matter how he changes his tone he will not garner the minority votes that is a fact !!

    With all due respect Jose, neither candidate gives a shit about minorities- sure they want the votes but don't think for a moment either white candidate gives a shit about anything but themselves and their rich friends. Sad, but the truth. As every election cycle proves, the "hope and change" mantra and dreams they spew are only to get themselves in office.
    Neither do the majority of voters.

    You said it...we can't fault Obama for not trying. The GOP congress has done its best to destroy anything Obama has tried. Then they bitch when he issues an executive order.

    Aren't congressmen elected every 2 years by the people? Sounds like you're blaming the system for working like it's supposed to. Of course people will bitch about executive orders, that's not how it's supposed to work.
    Yes they are. And when districts have been gerrymandered to get a desired result the process is stymied.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242

    eddiec said:

    No matter how he changes his tone he will not garner the minority votes that is a fact !!

    With all due respect Jose, neither candidate gives a shit about minorities- sure they want the votes but don't think for a moment either white candidate gives a shit about anything but themselves and their rich friends. Sad, but the truth. As every election cycle proves, the "hope and change" mantra and dreams they spew are only to get themselves in office.
    Neither do the majority of voters.

    You said it...we can't fault Obama for not trying. The GOP congress has done its best to destroy anything Obama has tried. Then they bitch when he issues an executive order.

    Aren't congressmen elected every 2 years by the people? Sounds like you're blaming the system for working like it's supposed to. Of course people will bitch about executive orders, that's not how it's supposed to work.
    Yes they are. And when districts have been gerrymandered to get a desired result the process is stymied.
    Possibly but I think it's because dems don't vote unless it's a presidential vote. That will change though, I think
    millenial dems are more politically active and will vote but we'll see in a few years
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    Hilarious that Drumpf is now backing away from his Muslim ban. It's official....he's a politician
    But in a separate interview that day, Trump suggested he wasn't actually proposing a hard ban on immigration from "terrorist countries," but only that people from such states - which he would not specify - should be strongly screened.
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/is-donald-trump-still-sticking-to-his-proposed-muslim-ban/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=25999157
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    Jason P said:

    Hilary will say whatever is needed to win the game of thrones. She is a sociopath.

    She's not a sociopath, she's just your average politician running to be POTUS. Sociopaths are defined largely by an extreme level of antisocial behaviour, and that doesn't define Clinton at all.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Hilary will say whatever is needed to win the game of thrones. She is a sociopath.

    She's not a sociopath, she's just your average politician running to be POTUS. Sociopaths are defined largely by an extreme level of antisocial behaviour, and that doesn't define Clinton at all.

    Had to laugh about this one- a sociopath is also defined as someone who lacks a conscience. I guess all politicians are sociopaths in some way then!
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,192
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/28/trump-s-new-spox-deletes-anti-donald-tweets.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page
    On Monday evening it was announced that former Ted Cruz senior communications adviser Jason Miller had taken a job as Donald Trump’s new top spokesman. It didn’t take long for media outlets to notice that Miller had purged his extensive history of anti-Trump tweets, including recent ones referring to the candidate as “#SleazyDonald.” According to cached versions of his tweets, Miller repeatedly used the hashtag as a punchline to negative stories about his former boss’s top GOP primary rival. In other now-deleted tweets, Miller mocked Trump as “the Carl Lewis of flip-flopping,” dismissed the idea that his new boss is any more reasonable “behind closed doors,” and teased the real-estate mogul for the various controversies surrounding Trump University.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2016/06/28/trump-s-new-spox-deletes-anti-donald-tweets.html?source=TDB&via=FB_Page

    On Monday evening it was announced that former Ted Cruz senior communications adviser Jason Miller had taken a job as Donald Trump’s new top spokesman. It didn’t take long for media outlets to notice that Miller had purged his extensive history of anti-Trump tweets, including recent ones referring to the candidate as “#SleazyDonald.” According to cached versions of his tweets, Miller repeatedly used the hashtag as a punchline to negative stories about his former boss’s top GOP primary rival. In other now-deleted tweets, Miller mocked Trump as “the Carl Lewis of flip-flopping,” dismissed the idea that his new boss is any more reasonable “behind closed doors,” and teased the real-estate mogul for the various controversies surrounding Trump University.
    I guess everyone's gotta make a buck.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited June 2016

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Hilary will say whatever is needed to win the game of thrones. She is a sociopath.

    She's not a sociopath, she's just your average politician running to be POTUS. Sociopaths are defined largely by an extreme level of antisocial behaviour, and that doesn't define Clinton at all.

    Had to laugh about this one- a sociopath is also defined as someone who lacks a conscience. I guess all politicians are sociopaths in some way then!
    No, many of them ditch their consciences (or at best ignore them) because their desire for power and control and money supersedes it, but that doesn't even come close to defining sociopathy. Most politicians HAVE consciences. They just put them on the back burner.
    Post edited by PJ_Soul on
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123

    eddiec said:

    No matter how he changes his tone he will not garner the minority votes that is a fact !!

    With all due respect Jose, neither candidate gives a shit about minorities- sure they want the votes but don't think for a moment either white candidate gives a shit about anything but themselves and their rich friends. Sad, but the truth. As every election cycle proves, the "hope and change" mantra and dreams they spew are only to get themselves in office.
    Neither do the majority of voters.

    You said it...we can't fault Obama for not trying. The GOP congress has done its best to destroy anything Obama has tried. Then they bitch when he issues an executive order.

    Aren't congressmen elected every 2 years by the people? Sounds like you're blaming the system for working like it's supposed to. Of course people will bitch about executive orders, that's not how it's supposed to work.
    Yes they are. And when districts have been gerrymandered to get a desired result the process is stymied.
    Possibly but I think it's because dems don't vote unless it's a presidential vote. That will change though, I think
    millenial dems are more politically active and will vote but we'll see in a few years
    Are you serious? Why do you think that?
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • RoleModelsinBlood31
    RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,242
    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    Jason P said:

    Hilary will say whatever is needed to win the game of thrones. She is a sociopath.

    She's not a sociopath, she's just your average politician running to be POTUS. Sociopaths are defined largely by an extreme level of antisocial behaviour, and that doesn't define Clinton at all.

    Had to laugh about this one- a sociopath is also defined as someone who lacks a conscience. I guess all politicians are sociopaths in some way then!
    No, many of them ditch their consciences (or at best ignore them) because their desire for power and control and money supersedes it, but that doesn't even come close to defining sociopathy. Most politicians HAVE consciences. They just put them on the back burner.
    Ok
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,675
    edited June 2016
    I'm making a point of it because I don't think it's helpful to go around accusing politicians of being sociopaths or psychopaths or any other kinds of "-paths" when it doesn't actually apply, or using those terms like catchphrases. All that is is exaggeration (usually... once in a while it does apply!), and it leads to even more division than there already is.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    PJ_Soul said:

    I'm making a point of it because I don't think it's helpful to go around accusing politicians of being sociopaths or psychopaths or any other kinds of "-paths" when it doesn't actually apply, or using those terms like catchphrases. All that is is exaggeration (usually... once in a while it does apply!), and it leads to even more division than there already is.

    Agreed 100%. Words lose their meaning when they are used in the hyperbolic sense. This why I would get so amped up when people said the Democratic primaries had 'voter suppression' or they are 'rigged'. Watch an election in Iraq, Iran, or Ukraine... that's rigged. Look at the old South before the Civil Rights Act... that's voter suppression. You also won't see me use words like Nazi when it comes to Trump. That word is too strong and needs to be reserved for when it really is happening, which hopefully is never.
  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited June 2016

    eddiec said:

    No matter how he changes his tone he will not garner the minority votes that is a fact !!

    With all due respect Jose, neither candidate gives a shit about minorities- sure they want the votes but don't think for a moment either white candidate gives a shit about anything but themselves and their rich friends. Sad, but the truth. As every election cycle proves, the "hope and change" mantra and dreams they spew are only to get themselves in office.
    Neither do the majority of voters.

    You said it...we can't fault Obama for not trying. The GOP congress has done its best to destroy anything Obama has tried. Then they bitch when he issues an executive order.

    Aren't congressmen elected every 2 years by the people? Sounds like you're blaming the system for working like it's supposed to. Of course people will bitch about executive orders, that's not how it's supposed to work.
    Partisan Gerrymandering Redistricting also has a hell'va lot to do with it..

    Check out how the GOP silenced Progressive leaning Austin in Texas.
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    Post edited by myoung321 on
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  • myoung321
    myoung321 Posts: 2,855
    edited June 2016
    Is it just me? When Trump reads teleprompters it reminds me of a 3rd grader reading a book report in front of the class for the first time....

    no disrespect meant towards 3rd graders.
    "The heart and mind are the true lens of the camera." - Yusuf Karsh
     


  • i like comedies. big fan of stepbrothers.

    "i said i didn't want salmon! i said it 4 times!

    this thread is horseshit...."

    Speaking of movies Donald Trumps favorite movie is Citizen Kane
    Find this and 24 other fun facts about Trump here http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-25-things-you-dont-know-about-me-2015179

    He likes hamburgers too.
    that list isn't complete.

    nowhere does it list how he is the worlds greatest douchebag. yuge douchebag. like the best douchebag.

    your fascination with a man you can't vote for is bordering on the disturbing.
    It's not a fascination. Donald Trump winning will have immediate effects on other countries.
    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/285189-trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-or-withdraw-from-nafta-without-changes
    "If they do not agree to a renegotiation, then I will submit notice under Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal

    Trump has a very real chance at winning and unlike many Americans there are a lot of (and possibly more) Canadians who pay attention to American elections. Hillary is not a candidate to worry about she is boring and may win only because her opponent is Trump.

    His own party can't stop him.
    So to say it is bordering disturbing I say it is being involved in global affairs.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,626

    i like comedies. big fan of stepbrothers.

    "i said i didn't want salmon! i said it 4 times!

    this thread is horseshit...."

    Speaking of movies Donald Trumps favorite movie is Citizen Kane
    Find this and 24 other fun facts about Trump here http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-25-things-you-dont-know-about-me-2015179

    He likes hamburgers too.
    that list isn't complete.

    nowhere does it list how he is the worlds greatest douchebag. yuge douchebag. like the best douchebag.

    your fascination with a man you can't vote for is bordering on the disturbing.
    It's not a fascination. Donald Trump winning will have immediate effects on other countries.
    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/285189-trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-or-withdraw-from-nafta-without-changes
    "If they do not agree to a renegotiation, then I will submit notice under Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal

    Trump has a very real chance at winning and unlike many Americans there are a lot of (and possibly more) Canadians who pay attention to American elections. Hillary is not a candidate to worry about she is boring and may win only because her opponent is Trump.

    His own party can't stop him.
    So to say it is bordering disturbing I say it is being involved in global affairs.
    The 1st thing you need to come to terms with is Trump will not win he can't with out the , black , womens & hispanics votes not even counting all the other people he has disrespected ....
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882

    i like comedies. big fan of stepbrothers.

    "i said i didn't want salmon! i said it 4 times!

    this thread is horseshit...."

    Speaking of movies Donald Trumps favorite movie is Citizen Kane
    Find this and 24 other fun facts about Trump here http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-25-things-you-dont-know-about-me-2015179

    He likes hamburgers too.
    that list isn't complete.

    nowhere does it list how he is the worlds greatest douchebag. yuge douchebag. like the best douchebag.

    your fascination with a man you can't vote for is bordering on the disturbing.
    It's not a fascination. Donald Trump winning will have immediate effects on other countries.
    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/285189-trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-or-withdraw-from-nafta-without-changes
    "If they do not agree to a renegotiation, then I will submit notice under Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal

    Trump has a very real chance at winning and unlike many Americans there are a lot of (and possibly more) Canadians who pay attention to American elections. Hillary is not a candidate to worry about she is boring and may win only because her opponent is Trump.

    His own party can't stop him.
    So to say it is bordering disturbing I say it is being involved in global affairs.
    The 1st thing you need to come to terms with is Trump will not win he can't with out the , black , womens & hispanics votes not even counting all the other people he has disrespected ....
    That's right. You can't win a national election with angry middle aged white men anymore. It's not 1972.
  • BS44325
    BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    i like comedies. big fan of stepbrothers.

    "i said i didn't want salmon! i said it 4 times!

    this thread is horseshit...."

    Speaking of movies Donald Trumps favorite movie is Citizen Kane
    Find this and 24 other fun facts about Trump here http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/donald-trump-25-things-you-dont-know-about-me-2015179

    He likes hamburgers too.
    that list isn't complete.

    nowhere does it list how he is the worlds greatest douchebag. yuge douchebag. like the best douchebag.

    your fascination with a man you can't vote for is bordering on the disturbing.
    It's not a fascination. Donald Trump winning will have immediate effects on other countries.
    http://thehill.com/policy/finance/285189-trump-says-he-will-renegotiate-or-withdraw-from-nafta-without-changes
    "If they do not agree to a renegotiation, then I will submit notice under Article 2205 of the NAFTA agreement that America intends to withdraw from the deal

    Trump has a very real chance at winning and unlike many Americans there are a lot of (and possibly more) Canadians who pay attention to American elections. Hillary is not a candidate to worry about she is boring and may win only because her opponent is Trump.

    His own party can't stop him.
    So to say it is bordering disturbing I say it is being involved in global affairs.
    The 1st thing you need to come to terms with is Trump will not win he can't with out the , black , womens & hispanics votes not even counting all the other people he has disrespected ....
    That's right. You can't win a national election with angry middle aged white men anymore. It's not 1972.
    That’s so funny the last time I heard that I laughed so hard I fell off my dinosaur.
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