NBA Thread now in 2015

pjhawks · June 2016

mrussel1 said:
Has it happened since Hextall?

yes JS Giguere for the Ducks in 2003. and the Flyers have had 2 of the 5. Hextall in 1987 and Reggie Leach in 1976

Degeneratefk · June 2016

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.

Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....

Wobbie · June 2016

Steph was a pouty ass last night. the MVP has not looked very MVPish in these playoffs.

Go Cavs.

mrussel1 · June 2016

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:
Has it happened since Hextall?
yes JS Giguere for the Ducks in 2003. and the Flyers have had 2 of the 5. Hextall in 1987 and Reggie Leach in 1976

Nice. I had forgotten about that Ducks team. Lost to the fuckin' Devils in 7. I really hated the Devils back then with that left wing lock. Killed the game. Thank God they opened up the two line pass.

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:
Has it happened since Hextall?
yes JS Giguere for the Ducks in 2003. and the Flyers have had 2 of the 5. Hextall in 1987 and Reggie Leach in 1976

And Leach is the only forward to win it in a losing effort. The other 4 have all been netminders.

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

And while I can't stand Lebron, he should get Finals MVP regardless of who wins.

pjhawks · June 2016

Degeneratefk said:

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.
Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....

Well i think for a losing player to get it that player has to stand on his head so far and above every other player and also take his team to an unexpected level. I don't think Lebron has done that this series. Frankly I don't think Lebron has been all the great this series. Was fantastic last night but overall in this series has been just ok to me. he is averaging 5 turnovers a game which includes only 2 last night. He had 2 games with 7 turnovers and was bad in games 1 and 2. Those types of numbers are not good enough for a player on a losing team to win Finals MVP in my opinion.

igotid88 · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:
And while I can't stand Lebron, he should get Finals MVP regardless of who wins.

Everyone thought he should have won it last year.

igotid88 · June 2016

pjhawks said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.
Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....
Well i think for a losing player to get it that player has to stand on his head so far and above every other player and also take his team to an unexpected level. I don't think Lebron has done that this series. Frankly I don't think Lebron has been all the great this series. Was fantastic last night but overall in this series has been just ok to me. he is averaging 5 turnovers a game which includes only 2 last night. He had 2 games with 7 turnovers and was bad in games 1 and 2. Those types of numbers are not good enough for a player on a losing team to win Finals MVP in my opinion.

He almost had a triple double in game 1. Almost had one in 3 of the 4 games. If he had help. Those numbers look even better

mrussel1 · June 2016

LBJ's turnovers have been tough this series. It's like he is just losing the dribble.

I don't think a losing player should get it personally. But I do think he had been the best player on the floor game in and out. Certainly better than Curry.

The Juggler · June 2016

He's one of the best to ever play the game. You guys realize "best player on the floor" and "most valuable player" are two different things right?

Hell of a game 5, no doubt. Doing his part in getting Green suspended certainly helped as he had no problems driving to the basket. But I don't think he played very well in the first two games (9/21 and 7/17 are not good shooting percentages at all).

Let's see what happens next.

The Juggler · June 2016

igotid88 said:

pjhawks said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.
Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....
Well i think for a losing player to get it that player has to stand on his head so far and above every other player and also take his team to an unexpected level. I don't think Lebron has done that this series. Frankly I don't think Lebron has been all the great this series. Was fantastic last night but overall in this series has been just ok to me. he is averaging 5 turnovers a game which includes only 2 last night. He had 2 games with 7 turnovers and was bad in games 1 and 2. Those types of numbers are not good enough for a player on a losing team to win Finals MVP in my opinion.
He almost had a triple double in game 1. Almost had one in 3 of the 4 games. If he had help. Those numbers look even better

"If he had help"
Haha....you love this argument for Eli too.

Here's a thought, maybe don't let your best player also be your quasi gm. And I'd say he had quite a bit of help in Miami yet only won once down there.

Stop making excuses for him.

mrussel1 · June 2016

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

pjhawks said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.
Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....
Well i think for a losing player to get it that player has to stand on his head so far and above every other player and also take his team to an unexpected level. I don't think Lebron has done that this series. Frankly I don't think Lebron has been all the great this series. Was fantastic last night but overall in this series has been just ok to me. he is averaging 5 turnovers a game which includes only 2 last night. He had 2 games with 7 turnovers and was bad in games 1 and 2. Those types of numbers are not good enough for a player on a losing team to win Finals MVP in my opinion.
He almost had a triple double in game 1. Almost had one in 3 of the 4 games. If he had help. Those numbers look even better
"If he had help"
Haha....you love this argument for Eli too.

Here's a thought, maybe don't let your best player also be your quasi gm. And I'd say he had quite a bit of help in Miami yet only won once down there.

Stop making excuses for him.

He won twice.

Indifference71 · June 2016

Could the NBA space out these games any more??? This series is taking forever.

HesCalledDyer · June 2016

Indifference71 said:
Could the NBA space out these games any more??? This series is taking forever.

There is no reason the full NBA season and playoffs shouldn't end in March or April. The NBA lasts longer than hockey - a fast paced, physically grueling sport. Baseball is more physically demanding than basketball, and they play twice as many games with maybe one day off each week. And the MLB offseason is still longer than the NBA. Basketball is ridiculous. All you do is jog around and try to throw a ball in a hoop.

The Juggler · June 2016

mrussel1 said:

The Juggler said:

igotid88 said:

pjhawks said:

Degeneratefk said:

pjhawks said:

mrussel1 said:

Degeneratefk said:

mrussel1 said:
I'm biased, but Lebron is still the best player in the league. He can do anything on the court at an elite level. And further, I think Klay is better than Steph. I'd rather have Klay at least. Someone made teh great point last night that Klay always takes the best guard on the floor. He is such the better two way player than Steph.
I've never been a fan of giving the MVP to a player on the losing team, but it's not even close right now. LeBron is the best player on the floor.
Without researching, the only time I recall it happening was Ron Hextall for the Flyers
it's happened 5x in the NHL but the Conn Smythe is for the whole playoffs and the NBA gives just a Finals MVP. and if Golden State wins game 6 no Lebron does not deserve it over Thompson.
Why should Thompson get it if LeBron is beating him in every statistical category?

Well, except wins.....
Well i think for a losing player to get it that player has to stand on his head so far and above every other player and also take his team to an unexpected level. I don't think Lebron has done that this series. Frankly I don't think Lebron has been all the great this series. Was fantastic last night but overall in this series has been just ok to me. he is averaging 5 turnovers a game which includes only 2 last night. He had 2 games with 7 turnovers and was bad in games 1 and 2. Those types of numbers are not good enough for a player on a losing team to win Finals MVP in my opinion.
He almost had a triple double in game 1. Almost had one in 3 of the 4 games. If he had help. Those numbers look even better
"If he had help"
Haha....you love this argument for Eli too.

Here's a thought, maybe don't let your best player also be your quasi gm. And I'd say he had quite a bit of help in Miami yet only won once down there.

Stop making excuses for him.
He won twice.

Ah, yes. Touché. Was favored in the other two series though.

Jason P · June 2016

Baseball ... physically demanding?

Jason P · June 2016

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HesCalledDyer · June 2016

Jason P said:
Baseball ... physically demanding?

So he's fat? It's still a way more physically demanding sport than basketball. Lot of guys with guts in the NFL, too. Would you not agree football is more demanding than basketball?

pjhawks · June 2016

HesCalledDyer said:

Jason P said:
Baseball ... physically demanding?

So he's fat? It's still a way more physically demanding sport than basketball. Lot of guys with guts in the NFL, too. Would you not agree football is more demanding than basketball?

agree that the time between games in the NBA playoffs is ridiculous. that being said baseball is not as physically demanding as basketball. not close actually. hell 99% of baseball is standing around doing nothing. I do agree that baseball is taxing because of the long grind with so few days off though. sometimes i think people don't realize how few days off baseball teams get during the season.

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