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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    And if this helps him politically it's great for him and shows a lot of the current mindset of the public
    He has nothing to lose and almost everything he does or say is helping him incrementally.

    The Juggler brings up a great point. His lawyers have not filed a motion requesting for him to recuse himself. Hasn't happened yet.

    And second, this shows the narcissism of Trump... he keeps talking about it. He makes Trump University a story day after day by not shutting up about it. It just keeps it in the news. And it's not going to trial until after the election so if he had the capability to not be self centered for one fucking second, he would ride out the storm of a few news cycles.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    And if this helps him politically it's great for him and shows a lot of the current mindset of the public
    He has nothing to lose and almost everything he does or say is helping him incrementally.

    And this is the general, not the primaries. These tactics will not bring swing voters.
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576

    rgambs said:

    Jake Tapper showed how journalism is done, he ground Trump down until he finally got a yes or no answer, which of course was racist bullshit.
    Here you go BS, so you still not see any racism in Trump?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/03/jake-tapper-asked-donald-trump-if-his-judge-attack-was-racist-then-followed-up-23-times/

    "TAPPER: If you are saying he cannot do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

    TRUMP: No, I don't think so at all."

    Media always taking it out of context and letting the liberal public run with it.
    Trump is referring to a particular judge who is handling his case and he has a concern of a possible bias in the proceeding because of the current controversy of what he said.
    He is right to think that a certain race has more disdain for him personally than others.
    And if you can't see that rgambs you need to re-evaluate your definition of racism.

    Your toll fee is waived on this one so you can let it all sink in that Trump will be your ruler.

    ^^^
    Great journalism?
    He asked the same question 23 times.
    Great journalists get an answer the first time.

    :dizzy:
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    And if this helps him politically it's great for him and shows a lot of the current mindset of the public
    He has nothing to lose and almost everything he does or say is helping him incrementally.

    The Juggler brings up a great point. His lawyers have not filed a motion requesting for him to recuse himself. Hasn't happened yet.

    And second, this shows the narcissism of Trump... he keeps talking about it. He makes Trump University a story day after day by not shutting up about it. It just keeps it in the news. And it's not going to trial until after the election so if he had the capability to not be self centered for one fucking second, he would ride out the storm of a few news cycles.
    Either way he is all over the news outlets and continues to remain on everyones mind unlike the Hillary.
    I can see the recuse motion coming once his headlines die down a little and then boom! he will be all over the news again.
    Before you know it November will be here and the only thing people will be thinking is Trump.
    As for swing votes, they could be at the mercy of the libertarians.http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/libertarian-party-gary-johnson-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-spoiler-1.3612883


    edit - added article
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    And if this helps him politically it's great for him and shows a lot of the current mindset of the public
    He has nothing to lose and almost everything he does or say is helping him incrementally.

    The Juggler brings up a great point. His lawyers have not filed a motion requesting for him to recuse himself. Hasn't happened yet.

    And second, this shows the narcissism of Trump... he keeps talking about it. He makes Trump University a story day after day by not shutting up about it. It just keeps it in the news. And it's not going to trial until after the election so if he had the capability to not be self centered for one fucking second, he would ride out the storm of a few news cycles.
    Either way he is all over the news outlets and continues to remain on everyones mind unlike the Hillary.
    I can see the recuse motion coming once his headlines die down a little and then boom! he will be all over the news again.
    Before you know it November will be here and the only thing people will be thinking is Trump.
    As for swing votes, they could be at the mercy of the libertarians.http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/libertarian-party-gary-johnson-donald-trump-hillary-clinton-spoiler-1.3612883


    edit - added article
    Dude, seriously... you think Americans vote on 'name recognition' in the general election? It's as if you think the Kim Kardashian mantra of 'no publicity is bad publicity' applies here. It doesn't. There is bad PR in the election cycle and this is bad publicity. The more it's in the news, the more that the political disengaged will hear about it.
  • ^^^
    Step back a little and look at the political landscape. Since he began his run for the whitehouse he consistently stated that there has been an enormous amount of otherwise politically disengaged voters participating in this election. Some for him some for other parties, either way the turnouts and participation have been strong. Trumps party has gained more registered voters equalling more money, status, etc. Same for Bernie and Hillary.
    No one cares about bad publicity when you are at the top of your ladder (Trump).
    Trump has almost all political disengaged ears listening to him not always agreeing but listening.
    How it will turn into votes is yet to be seen.
    Face it, this election is about Trump and whether he will win or lose.
  • Degeneratefk
    Degeneratefk Posts: 3,123
    If you ignore him, he will go away
    will myself to find a home, a home within myself
    we will find a way, we will find our place
  • If you ignore him, he will go away

    Tell that to all his opponents that are no longer running.
    They made that mistake once.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    Step back a little and look at the political landscape. Since he began his run for the whitehouse he consistently stated that there has been an enormous amount of otherwise politically disengaged voters participating in this election. Some for him some for other parties, either way the turnouts and participation have been strong. Trumps party has gained more registered voters equalling more money, status, etc. Same for Bernie and Hillary.
    No one cares about bad publicity when you are at the top of your ladder (Trump).
    Trump has almost all political disengaged ears listening to him not always agreeing but listening.
    How it will turn into votes is yet to be seen.
    Face it, this election is about Trump and whether he will win or lose.

    You're right, Trump has consistently said these things. He also has consistently said he has big hands, that he has a 'really good brain', has the 'best tempermant' and lots of other dumb shit. So forgive us for not taking his word as fact.

    Face it, this election is about Trump and whether he will win or lose.

    I guess it's hard to argue with this super profound statement.. It is about whether he will win or lose. That is a key question for November.
  • InHiding80
    InHiding80 Upland,CA Posts: 7,623
    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    Jake Tapper showed how journalism is done, he ground Trump down until he finally got a yes or no answer, which of course was racist bullshit.
    Here you go BS, so you still not see any racism in Trump?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/03/jake-tapper-asked-donald-trump-if-his-judge-attack-was-racist-then-followed-up-23-times/

    "TAPPER: If you are saying he cannot do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

    TRUMP: No, I don't think so at all."

    Media always taking it out of context and letting the liberal public run with it.
    Trump is referring to a particular judge who is handling his case and he has a concern of a possible bias in the proceeding because of the current controversy of what he said.
    He is right to think that a certain race has more disdain for him personally than others.
    And if you can't see that rgambs you need to re-evaluate your definition of racism.

    Your toll fee is waived on this one so you can let it all sink in that Trump will be your ruler.

    ^^^
    Great journalism?
    He asked the same question 23 times.
    Great journalists get an answer the first time.

    :dizzy:
    Yep, mental gymnastics to a T.

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  • ^^^
    I love when you post IH80, you think exactly like I do.
    We are the same.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    Jake Tapper showed how journalism is done, he ground Trump down until he finally got a yes or no answer, which of course was racist bullshit.
    Here you go BS, so you still not see any racism in Trump?https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/03/jake-tapper-asked-donald-trump-if-his-judge-attack-was-racist-then-followed-up-23-times/

    "TAPPER: If you are saying he cannot do his job because of his race, is that not the definition of racism?

    TRUMP: No, I don't think so at all."

    Media always taking it out of context and letting the liberal public run with it.
    Trump is referring to a particular judge who is handling his case and he has a concern of a possible bias in the proceeding because of the current controversy of what he said.
    He is right to think that a certain race has more disdain for him personally than others.
    And if you can't see that rgambs you need to re-evaluate your definition of racism.

    Your toll fee is waived on this one so you can let it all sink in that Trump will be your ruler.

    ^^^
    Great journalism?
    He asked the same question 23 times.
    Great journalists get an answer the first time.

    :dizzy:
    Yep, mental gymnastics to a T.

    image
    There's an old saying. Never argue with 'crazy'. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    Trump, whose ancestors changed their German surname Drumpf to Trump, added that he appreciates pride in heritage, but said without specifics: “There’s something going on.” http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/05/donald-trump-muslim-judges-face-the-nation
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    Trump, whose ancestors changed their German surname Drumpf to Trump, added that he appreciates pride in heritage, but said without specifics: “There’s something going on.” http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/jun/05/donald-trump-muslim-judges-face-the-nation

    The wonderful thing about our court system is a little something called precedent...

    In 1998, the second circuit court of appeals briskly threw out one such claim of bias, ruling: “Courts have repeatedly held that matters such as race or ethnicity are improper bases for challenging a judge’s impartiality.”

    The chief justice of the court added that who appointed a judge and an attorney’s political stances were similarly baseless complaints. “Zero plus zero is zero,” he wrote.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    This is pretty funny. I'm glad you linked that article. Want to know why Trump's attorneys won't file for recusal based on race? Not only is it absurd, but more importantly read what happened to the attorneys who filed in that 1998 case mentioned above:

    In a written response, Chin noted that he hadn’t been aware of Klayman’s other lawsuit. As for the questions about his race, he said, “This sentiment is absurd and demeans me individually and the Court as a whole.”

    He then lowered the boom. Klayman and Orfanedes were required to withdraw as counsel from the case and would not be permitted to appear in Chin’s court on any matter ever again. They would be required to show his opinion to any other judge in the district in any future case. The court clerk would also report the sanctions to every court where they held bar membership.

    Klayman and Orfanedes recruited former U.S. Attorney General Ramsey Clark (the lawyer for, among others, Lyndon LaRouche, Slobodan Milošević, and the Branch Davidians) to appeal the sanctions. The Second Circuit briskly affirmed Chin’s order. “Courts have repeatedly held that matters such as race or ethnicity are improper bases for challenging a judge's impartiality,” wrote the chief judge, Ralph Winter, a Reagan appointee. “Nor should one charge that a judge is not impartial solely because an attorney is embroiled in a controversy with the administration that appointed the judge. … Finally, appointment by a particular administration and membership in a particular racial or ethnic group are in combination not grounds for questioning a judge's impartiality. Zero plus zero is zero.”

    http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/the-problem-with-calling-out-judges-for-their-race/485732/
  • ^^^
    The funny thing is that Trump may/may not file a recuse but not based on that.
    If anything his lawyers and the court don't want what he is putting down, giving him leverage.
    Trump Uninversity? who cares, if you are stupid enough to ask a rich man how to become rich....
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    The funny thing is that Trump may/may not file a recuse but not based on that.
    If anything his lawyers and the court don't want what he is putting down, giving him leverage.
    Trump Uninversity? who cares, if you are stupid enough to ask a rich man how to become rich....

    Wrong. Do you know how damaging and embarrassing sanctions are? One of my company's main jobs is overseeing attorney firms for large commercial and non-commercial institutions. They need local counsel to litigate cases. One of the first things we do and what we do every year on all attorneys is to review court sanctions. We won't hire any counsel that has been sanctioned in the courts (unless it was for a plaintiff failing to show). Trump's attorneys do not want this hanging over them after this case is over. Precedent is quite clear.
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    ^^^
    You are not doing your job correctly.
    Trump is still a viable candidate that will soon oversee your company proceedings.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879

    ^^^
    You are not doing your job correctly.
    Trump is still a viable candidate that will soon oversee your company proceedings.

    Really? So Trump is going to have the government oversee privately held businesses like mine? Every statement you make sinks you deeper into bizarro world.
  • ^^^
    You have to think like Trump.
    His billions outmatch your bank account I venture to guess.
    His billions can make your little company and things called courts do as he pleases.
    Once he is POTUS he will be hindered by the public.
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