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  • mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    Dude, are you for real? Do you understand how this all works? When people pull their money out of the market, it tanks the price. If you own a piece of that, the value of your ownership goes down.
    When you buy a house for 300k and then two years later no one will pay you more than 270k for it, do you pretend it's not really a loss? It's the same concept.
    I don't blame people for not paying what others (the market) says it's worth. Yes it is nice to be in a house watching the value go up every year until you decide to sell it. In the end you get what you should. A shack is a shack.

    Mom and Pop were right about keeping your money in a shoebox underneath your bed. You will always know your worth.

  • mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Facts of the day, folks! Just as they happened!

    THIS guy. Hahahaha


    Who knew a thread in the AMT would be my new go-to when needing a laugh?
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,171
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    But your to smart to be a conservative you always have correct facts and see things from every perspective, please let him/her keep their position lol
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.
    I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,466
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.
    I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.
    It's possible he could be like one of those fake Twitter bots that are just there to troll people or whatever. They also make up about 80% of Trump's followers.
    www.myspace.com
  • mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Nah, I think this guy is doing a bang up job. I love this thread.
    I really need someone to make sense. This is driving me nuts.
    It's possible he could be like one of those fake Twitter bots that are just there to troll people or whatever. They also make up about 80% of Trump's followers.
    +/- 5%
  • I only read this article now after posting my previous thoughts. http://www.cnbc.com/2016/06/24/

    The lesson for U.S. politics is that polls showing a steady lead for Clinton could underestimate the extent to which voters are fed up with the status quo and are willing to take a risk on a candidate like Trump — whose rhetoric on trade and immigration is very similar to that used by the Leave campaign.
  • You know this is a good point and true They want to take a lot of things back. They want to be able to have a country again. So, I think you're going have this happen more and more. I really believe that, and I think it's happening in the United States.

    It's happening by the fact that I've done so well in the polls. You look at the recent polling, and you look at the swing states and you see how I'm doing, and I haven't even started my campaign yet, essentially

    I don't make these headlines you do.
    http://www.smh.com.au/world/donald-trumps-brexit-press-conference-was-beyond-bizarre-20160624-gprojw.html
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,331
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Why are you voting for Trump?
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Wait one gosh darn second! I'm the conservative antagonist of these boards! I just happen to be quite busy right now and do not have a lot of time to enter the fray on every argument. Don't you dare try to find a replacement in my absence!
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Wait one gosh darn second! I'm the conservative antagonist of these boards! I just happen to be quite busy right now and do not have a lot of time to enter the fray on every argument. Don't you dare try to find a replacement in my absence!
    Okay, okay, let's go to the bullpen and call in BS44325.

    Now this guy can really bring the heat late innings. Sometimes he's a little wild and struggles with his accuracy, but the hard throwing right hander does not screw around. His delivery is very different than PJFAN, who is more of a screwball, junk pitcher who tries to confuse you with his awkward delivery. But not BS... it's going to be straight chin music from now on.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348
    dignin said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Why are you voting for Trump?
    Because...'murica, China, rigged, fantastic, yuge, terrific university, big hands, super hot like my wife, Great, 'murica.

    That about sums it up.
  • Ah yes.
    When you have nothing else just talk sports.
    image
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Wait one gosh darn second! I'm the conservative antagonist of these boards! I just happen to be quite busy right now and do not have a lot of time to enter the fray on every argument. Don't you dare try to find a replacement in my absence!
    Okay, okay, let's go to the bullpen and call in BS44325.

    Now this guy can really bring the heat late innings. Sometimes he's a little wild and struggles with his accuracy, but the hard throwing right hander does not screw around. His delivery is very different than PJFAN, who is more of a screwball, junk pitcher who tries to confuse you with his awkward delivery. But not BS... it's going to be straight chin music from now on.
    Literally laughed out loud at this. Well done, sir!
  • ^^^
    Are you a Trump supporter or not?
    I can't tell from your posts on this thread.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    ^^^
    Are you a Trump supporter or not?
    I can't tell from your posts on this thread.

    I'm an observer and sometime commenter on this thread. Have also gotten (and continue to get) a kick out of it.
  • PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Posts: 49,888

    ^^^
    Are you a Trump supporter or not?
    I can't tell from your posts on this thread.

    :lol: Oh, that's rich, coming from you! Hahaha.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^
    Are you a Trump supporter or not?
    I can't tell from your posts on this thread.

    :lol: Oh, that's rich, coming from you! Hahaha.
    I still can't tell from the response so I will go on the assumption that H supports him.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    Dude, that baseball analogy.

    image
  • PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623

    Ah yes.
    When you have nothing else just talk sports.
    image

    Like how a non politician decides to talk about politics and runs for POTUS?

    Your do as I say and not do hypocrisy knows no limits.
  • Ah yes.
    When you have nothing else just talk sports.
    image

    Like how a non politician decides to talk about politics and runs for POTUS?

    Your do as I say and not do hypocrisy knows no limits.
    Remember he is on a pinnacle now and has to be a politician.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,348

    Ah yes.
    When you have nothing else just talk sports.
    image

    Like how a non politician decides to talk about politics and runs for POTUS?

    Your do as I say and not do hypocrisy knows no limits.
    Remember he is on a pinnacle now and has to be a politician.
    How is he on a pinnacle? He's not even in the same conversation of Jobs, Gates, Eric Schmidt, and the other great business minds of the past 30 years. His shallowness as a candidate is a direct reflection of his shallowness as a businessman and a human.
  • hedonisthedonist Posts: 24,524

    PJ_Soul said:

    ^^^
    Are you a Trump supporter or not?
    I can't tell from your posts on this thread.

    :lol: Oh, that's rich, coming from you! Hahaha.
    I still can't tell from the response so I will go on the assumption that H supports him.
    OK by me! Just don't assume you're correct.
  • InHiding80InHiding80 Posts: 7,623
    mrussel1 said:

    Ah yes.
    When you have nothing else just talk sports.
    image

    Like how a non politician decides to talk about politics and runs for POTUS?

    Your do as I say and not do hypocrisy knows no limits.
    Remember he is on a pinnacle now and has to be a politician.
    How is he on a pinnacle? He's not even in the same conversation of Jobs, Gates, Eric Schmidt, and the other great business minds of the past 30 years. His shallowness as a candidate is a direct reflection of his shallowness as a businessman and a human.
    Which is why he hasn't had that "inventor of successful institution who had personal issues" biopic that's all the rage lately.

    Instead he gets a one hour mockubiopic (Did I just invent a word? :lol: ) on Funny Or Die starring Johnny Depp.
  • BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    BS44325 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
    Exactly - cash out.
    Okay. You are clearly not understanding the stock market. You don't get to cash out your 529, IRA, 401(k), pension, etc. Sorry, I know these are US tax codes but I'm sure Canada has something similar.

    But here's the thing. And I'm very sorry about this... but we're going to have to relieve you of your duties as conservative antagonist on this board. It's just not working out for any of us. We know you are trying hard to represent the policies of the right, but the understanding is just too superficial at this point. Many of us don't agree with the non-crazy conservatives, but they do have some good points that need to be considered. That's just not happening right now.

    I'll start playing the conservative on this board until such time as we can find a suitable replacement. There will be certain view I just can't defend, but I'll do my best. Please cut me some slack.
    Wait one gosh darn second! I'm the conservative antagonist of these boards! I just happen to be quite busy right now and do not have a lot of time to enter the fray on every argument. Don't you dare try to find a replacement in my absence!
    Okay, okay, let's go to the bullpen and call in BS44325.

    Now this guy can really bring the heat late innings. Sometimes he's a little wild and struggles with his accuracy, but the hard throwing right hander does not screw around. His delivery is very different than PJFAN, who is more of a screwball, junk pitcher who tries to confuse you with his awkward delivery. But not BS... it's going to be straight chin music from now on.
    Haha...that is excellent...although i take issue with the accuracy! I'm always right around that strike zone but definitely not afraid to throw the chin music when necessary. Well played sir.
    Post edited by BS44325 on
  • See, the Donald just went through a rough patch is all...
    He's back on track because of his new campaign manager. http://www.wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-weathers-stormy-month-loses-only-2-points-versus-hillary-clinton-1466946000

    “Donald Trump has had the worst month one can imagine, but Clinton’s negatives are so high the net impact on the ballot is almost invisible,”
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