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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    that happens whenever there is a big political change. I think it's too early to predict a recession. but it might make things difficult in the short term.
    The markets flee uncertainty. The uncertainty will continue for months and months. Don't forget that this vote doesn't obligate the MPs to leave the EU. Parliament could vote otherwise. So new investments in the UK will slow dramatically, and that could extend into everyone in the EU. It may be months before the dust settles. The Fed will almost certainly leave the discount rate where it is, which again is not good news.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
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    rgambsrgambs Posts: 13,576

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    As has been covered, anti-immigrant sentiment was the driving force.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,284
    BS44325 said:

    The Brexit vote is pretty indicative of Trump's likely victory in November.

    hate to burst your bubble, but trump will never be president.

    he is so toxic that even george w bush, the other stupidest elected official ever, is not endorsing him.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,284
    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    As has been covered, anti-immigrant sentiment was the driving force.
    you ever get the feeling that in these big threads we are essentially broken records?
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    As has been covered, anti-immigrant sentiment was the driving force.
    So do you agree that a majority, albeit a close one, was strong enough to collectively stand up and vote with that sentiment?
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    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    As has been covered, anti-immigrant sentiment was the driving force.
    Why do you quote twice?
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    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,758
    From a lot of the stuff I'm reading, a portion of the leave side had no idea wtf they were even voting for.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    rgambs said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    As has been covered, anti-immigrant sentiment was the driving force.
    you ever get the feeling that in these big threads we are essentially broken records?
    Another sign that we need a new album or another tour!
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,284
    PJ_Soul said:

    From a lot of the stuff I'm reading, a portion of the leave side had no idea wtf they were even voting for.

    then they get the result they deserve.

    elections are real and they have real life consequences. part of being a citizen is having a basic understanding of the issues.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    PJ_SoulPJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 49,758

    PJ_Soul said:

    From a lot of the stuff I'm reading, a portion of the leave side had no idea wtf they were even voting for.

    then they get the result they deserve.

    elections are real and they have real life consequences. part of being a citizen is having a basic understanding of the issues.
    I agree.
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
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    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    From a lot of the stuff I'm reading, a portion of the leave side had no idea wtf they were even voting for.

    then they get the result they deserve.

    elections are real and they have real life consequences. part of being a citizen is having a basic understanding of the issues.
    I agree.
    This is the confusing part. How can a Union be for arguments sake 50-50 on knowing what they were voting for?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Really? When did the people attend these meetings? When were they held? Were they real negotiations? Or are you just making stuff up to stay aligned with Trump?
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Really? When did the people attend these meetings? When were they held? Were they real negotiations? Or are you just making stuff up to stay aligned with Trump?
    Again, there was a little over 50% of voters that were clearly wanting some change because the status quo of politics was not doing it for them. Will they clamour back in a few years time?
    We'll see but in the meantime we will see what voting for change does.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
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    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
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    Also, when I was 20yrs old I received my mutual fund statement at years end stating I "lost" six hundred dollars. No one could explain how. Never again.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Okay, think of it this way.
    Let's just take Google as the stock (Alphabet). It closed yesterday at $701. The aftermarket traders at 1230 AM started a massive sell overnight so by time it opened today it was 675. So if I closed the day yesterday with the purchasing power of 100 shares, I only had 96 shares this morning. Let's say all those people that sold immediately bought the dollar. It closed yesterday at 93 but overnight it jumped to 96. If I sold my alphabet shares yesterday before the market closed, I could have bought 753 shares. But this morning, I could only buy 703 shares. That $ is gone. It's a loss.
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    Jason PJason P Posts: 19,124
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    ^^^
    You still are not explaining how this is Trumps fault.
    You can't even explain where it went. Quit repeating that you lost money I get it. You lost it to who? Who has your lost money?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,460

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,460

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    Dude, are you for real? Do you understand how this all works? When people pull their money out of the market, it tanks the price. If you own a piece of that, the value of your ownership goes down.
    When you buy a house for 300k and then two years later no one will pay you more than 270k for it, do you pretend it's not really a loss? It's the same concept.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,815

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    The faster you move your money to a safe haven (or cash out) the better you can mitigate your loss.

    Am I being fucked with here?
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,460

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    mrussel1 said:

    Jason P said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-uk-vote-leave-eu-purely/story?id=40052314&cid=abcn_fb

    How stupid is this guy? Scotland didn't support Brexit...yet Trumpenstein is in Scotland praising Scotland for the vote to leave.

    He's truly comes off and not having any clue what he's talking about (and at times as barely even being coherent).
    What is pretty coherent are the results of the vote.
    That has nothing to do with what I said and I don't know why you said it, but yeah, the results are clear. :confused:
    It does. The people not Scotland made a decision for themselves. Trump knows why, the people know why. Democracy worked directly for the people. Sour grapes for the opposition? oh well.
    See, you're just as confused as Trump (this is not surprising).

    The people of Scotland voted overwhelmingly to remain.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/06/23/leave-or-remain-eu-referendum-results-and-live-maps/

    Lol, right, it was only the main point of the original article being discussed. :dizzy:
    This is what happens when people use www.donaldjtrump.com for their news. ha
    The Scots did not have a bigger population voting to stay. Instead they were lumped in with the rest of the majority of the UK who voted to leave.
    Who cares if the majority of Scots wanted to stay? The will of the rest was stronger.
    Trump was telling facts of the day as it happened. Whether or not you agree it is still fact.
    Trump was addressing the Scots specifically. Game over, man.
    The Scots specifically at his grand opening of Turnberry who likely voted to leave.
    Either way it was pretty much 50/50 in Scotland.


    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-36606184

    Basically, they took back their country. That's a great thing
    Yes and the markets freaked out, the pound is crushed, the Down is down 600 points. It's likely that the UK specifically will spiral into a recession. Way to make things better.
    So explain what was the driving force for so many people wanting to separate?
    My post has nothing to do with people wanting to separate. I can't speak to individual motivation. My point is that the vote is creating an economically unstable situation. That is rarely a wise choice. The Brits could have re-negotiated certain terms of their membership, dramatically reducing the fallout. I tend to think that will still happen.
    Nope, people are sick of talking and meetings.
    It was time for action.
    Listen... I get that you don't believe in economics for some reason. That's been evident in many of your posts. But there was probably 2 trillion dollars of wealth lost today. That wealth was tied up in pensions, IRA, 529's and other 'normal person' investment vehicles, not just "1%'s". it hit people in the US (global market... get it?) I get that your candidate floated filing bankruptcy on the national debt. If you think today's loss was staggering, that action would probably be 4-5x what today's financial disaster was. Think about that before you keep railing on with half cocked ideas that Trump has been floating.
    The half cocked ideas are at least an attempt to explain what many don't or won't from fear of repercussion.
    Money lost? to who? where did it go?
    The bold is not a real sentence. Please try again.

    Okay.. let's do an exercise. I assume you have some sort of investment vehicle, correct? Retirement, stocks, mutual fund investments, etc. Were up at 1230 last night when the vote came in? Did you immediately move your money to the yen or the dollar, or perhaps a treasury bond? If not, you lost $. I was on a plane. I lost a lot of money last night because of this vote, probably 3-5% of the value of my portfolio. Now why that really sucks is my daughter is going off to college soon. She has a 529 that will need to be cashed out. The chances of stocks recovering (save a new Brexit vote) by the time she goes is not good. That's a real financial loss. Do you not understand this?
    I do understand that you had a financial loss.
    Where did it go to?
    Puff gone into cyberspace don't you have any investment thru job or anything, I remember in 08 I lost 30 grand that 1st week of bubble bursting it was just gone from my 403 ...
    What have you done to recover? Re-invest into cyberspace?
    Just kept investing into my 403 ...
    Did you ever question who received your loss?
    Lmao funny stuff it's not like Trump university when those folks got ripped off they knew exactly who the thieve was hence law suit , who should I've called ?
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
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