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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited June 2016

    One thing is certain Trump is def a pathological liar !!

    Well he will be the more honest of the 2.
    Yeah I almost appreciate how shameless Trump's lying is considering how cunning and devious Hillary can be. Trump can get called out on a lie, deny it, look stupid doing it, and that's that. Hilary will get a team of mercenaries working around the clock to discredit whoever calls her out on lie.
    Really so you want a POTUS that just straight up lies about everything in other words you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal !!
    I'm working on a memo for a court hearing at work right now and punctuation is key. You mean....

    "Really? So you want a POTUS that just straight-up lies about everything? In other words, you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal?!?!"

    And my answer to that is "no." Remember, some of us are just enjoying the shitshow with Trump.

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^I wonder what's 'not working' in this country? Which country achieves a higher standard of living where we want to aspire to that political and economic system. "InmyNC", which country is your model that does it better than us? All I hear is complaining about this country, but the standard of living is pretty fucking high, comparative to the rest of the world and certainly in historical context.

    You are right this country has a good standard of living. Better then most. But there are many kinks that need to be worked out. For example, the health care system. The affordable care act has made many not so financially stable folks able to get coverage, but many middle class citizens still pay very high premiums. In my case the premiums have exceeded my mortgage payment yet I have no claims other then a standard physical. This affordable care act is great for many but caused increases to others. This act had some good in it but I feel it never really attacked the source of the cost. I'm not against the ACA, but I think some tweeking is in order. Another issue I see is education. Since the birth of the dept. Of education during the Carter administration tuitions in some cases have risen 300%. This has made college education a burden to many with years of debt. These are just two issues that our recent past and present politicians fail to take action upon.
    I'm not sure that ACA has caused the increase in premiums, as the curves seem to be on the same path they've been on since 2000. But I agree with what you are saying that the source needs to be attacked. Your point on tuition is a good one, but I'm not sure that it started in the 70's. My undergrad credits at a FL state university were $35 per undergrad and $65 per grad. I wetn to school in 91. That's reasonable. They are wholly unreasonable now and what pisses me off most about Sanders and Warren. They are blaming Sallie Mae./Navient for student loans? WTF? They didn't choose to go to Dennison College for 50k per year for a liberal arts degree. Who the fuck does that? Of course you're broke.

    Anyway, you get my point and I get yours. I'm sick of all the boo hooing like we are living in this piece of shit country where that's not even close to being the case. But we need improvement and that's why I'm a 'progressive'... We move progressively forward without disrupting the markets as best we can. Other points are also true , that politicians always act like we suck, that's how they get elected.
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542

    One thing is certain Trump is def a pathological liar !!

    Well he will be the more honest of the 2.
    Yeah I almost appreciate how shameless Trump's lying is considering how cunning and devious Hillary can be. Trump can get called out on a lie, deny it, look stupid doing it, and that's that. Hilary will get a team of mercenaries working around the clock to discredit whoever calls her out on lie.
    Really so you want a POTUS that just straight up lies about everything in other words you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal !!
    I'm working on a memo for a court hearing at work right now and punctuation is key. You mean....

    "Really? So you want a POTUS that just straight-up lies about everything? In other words, you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal?!?!"

    And my answer to that is "no." Remember, some of us are just enjoying the shitshow with Trump.

    Ah ha yes it's been a real shit show no doubt ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • inmyNC
    inmyNC amongst many Posts: 243
    mrussel1 said:

    inmyNC said:

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^I wonder what's 'not working' in this country? Which country achieves a higher standard of living where we want to aspire to that political and economic system. "InmyNC", which country is your model that does it better than us? All I hear is complaining about this country, but the standard of living is pretty fucking high, comparative to the rest of the world and certainly in historical context.

    You are right this country has a good standard of living. Better then most. But there are many kinks that need to be worked out. For example, the health care system. The affordable care act has made many not so financially stable folks able to get coverage, but many middle class citizens still pay very high premiums. In my case the premiums have exceeded my mortgage payment yet I have no claims other then a standard physical. This affordable care act is great for many but caused increases to others. This act had some good in it but I feel it never really attacked the source of the cost. I'm not against the ACA, but I think some tweeking is in order. Another issue I see is education. Since the birth of the dept. Of education during the Carter administration tuitions in some cases have risen 300%. This has made college education a burden to many with years of debt. These are just two issues that our recent past and present politicians fail to take action upon.
    I'm not sure that ACA has caused the increase in premiums, as the curves seem to be on the same path they've been on since 2000. But I agree with what you are saying that the source needs to be attacked. Your point on tuition is a good one, but I'm not sure that it started in the 70's. My undergrad credits at a FL state university were $35 per undergrad and $65 per grad. I wetn to school in 91. That's reasonable. They are wholly unreasonable now and what pisses me off most about Sanders and Warren. They are blaming Sallie Mae./Navient for student loans? WTF? They didn't choose to go to Dennison College for 50k per year for a liberal arts degree. Who the fuck does that? Of course you're broke.

    Anyway, you get my point and I get yours. I'm sick of all the boo hooing like we are living in this piece of shit country where that's not even close to being the case. But we need improvement and that's why I'm a 'progressive'... We move progressively forward without disrupting the markets as best we can. Other points are also true , that politicians always act like we suck, that's how they get elected.
    I went to a community college in Brandon Fl. I spent a lot of time up in Tallahassee at FSU .in 91'. Probably crossed a path or two with you then. Anyhow, what you said about being progressive and moving forward without affecting disrupting markets couldn't be a truer statement.. Its tricky but I believe it will be done in our time. People don't like change especially our government.. Even though Trump isn't my choice I do think his balligerance has brought new light. Maybe its opened our politicians eyes.
  • PJ_Soul
    PJ_Soul Vancouver, BC Posts: 50,656
    With all its sham, drudgery, and broken dreams, it is still a beautiful world. Be careful. Strive to be happy. ~ Desiderata
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590

    One thing is certain Trump is def a pathological liar !!

    Well he will be the more honest of the 2.
    Yeah I almost appreciate how shameless Trump's lying is considering how cunning and devious Hillary can be. Trump can get called out on a lie, deny it, look stupid doing it, and that's that. Hilary will get a team of mercenaries working around the clock to discredit whoever calls her out on lie.
    Really so you want a POTUS that just straight up lies about everything in other words you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal !!
    I'm working on a memo for a court hearing at work right now and punctuation is key. You mean....

    "Really? So you want a POTUS that just straight-up lies about everything? In other words, you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal?!?!"

    And my answer to that is "no." Remember, some of us are just enjoying the shitshow with Trump.

    I know you're being a silly goose but what is there to enjoy? I can understand enjoying the shit show when it looked like he didn't have much of a shot last year. But the fact that has a 50/50 chance of being the most powerful person in the universe scares the living hell out of me.
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,012

    One thing is certain Trump is def a pathological liar !!

    Well he will be the more honest of the 2.
    Yeah I almost appreciate how shameless Trump's lying is considering how cunning and devious Hillary can be. Trump can get called out on a lie, deny it, look stupid doing it, and that's that. Hilary will get a team of mercenaries working around the clock to discredit whoever calls her out on lie.
    Really so you want a POTUS that just straight up lies about everything in other words you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal !!
    I'm working on a memo for a court hearing at work right now and punctuation is key. You mean....

    "Really? So you want a POTUS that just straight-up lies about everything? In other words, you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal?!?!"

    And my answer to that is "no." Remember, some of us are just enjoying the shitshow with Trump.

    I know you're being a silly goose but what is there to enjoy? I can understand enjoying the shit show when it looked like he didn't have much of a shot last year. But the fact that has a 50/50 chance of being the most powerful person in the universe scares the living hell out of me.
    i would not worry. it is getting to the point in time where he will begin to face "actual" journalism and media scrutiny and he will start to drop in the polls.

    there is a part of me who is kind of thinking that he is beginning to realize that he is completely in over his head and he is starting to get paranoid. his attacks on reporters yesterday and his notoriously thin skin makes me think that he is saying anything that comes to mind in order to blow his own chances.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    "It was amazing because there were moments with the gorilla, the way he held that child, it was almost like a mother holding a baby. Looked so beautiful and calm and there were moments where it looked pretty dangerous," Trump went on to say. "I don't think they had a choice. I mean, probably they didn't have a choice. You have a child, a young child who is at stake, and, you know, it's too bad there wasn't another way. I thought it was so beautiful to watch that, you know, powerful, almost 500-pound gorilla, the way he dealt with that little boy, but it just takes one second. It's one second. It's not like it takes place over, well, he's going to do it in 30 seconds from now. It just takes one little flick of his finger, and I will tell you they probably had no choice."
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991

    One thing is certain Trump is def a pathological liar !!

    Well he will be the more honest of the 2.
    Yeah I almost appreciate how shameless Trump's lying is considering how cunning and devious Hillary can be. Trump can get called out on a lie, deny it, look stupid doing it, and that's that. Hilary will get a team of mercenaries working around the clock to discredit whoever calls her out on lie.
    Really so you want a POTUS that just straight up lies about everything in other words you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal !!
    I'm working on a memo for a court hearing at work right now and punctuation is key. You mean....

    "Really? So you want a POTUS that just straight-up lies about everything? In other words, you trust him with the nuclear arsenal at his disposal?!?!"

    And my answer to that is "no." Remember, some of us are just enjoying the shitshow with Trump.

    I know you're being a silly goose but what is there to enjoy? I can understand enjoying the shit show when it looked like he didn't have much of a shot last year. But the fact that has a 50/50 chance of being the most powerful person in the universe scares the living hell out of me.
    Here's how it is for me: Come election day, I'll vote for Clinton (even though I hate her) just because if Trump wins Pennsylvania (as important a swing state as any) by one vote, I'll never be able to live with myself. I don't want Trump to be MY fault (just like they're not MY 76ers lol) but if it happens, then so be it. If nothing else, Trump has thrown a total wrench into the god-awful election process and I'm enjoying that. The Republicans deserve this; insulting their voters with robots like Rubio spouting off "words Republican voters like" (Ronald Reagan, Constitution, second amendment, pro-choice, rinse, repeat). And all the smug Democrats laughing about it are going to get theirs in good time. If not this November with a Trump victory, then years from now when Dwayne Johnson (or somebody like that) is their nominee. That's what I like about this Trump thing...he's opened the door for non-politicians to win the nominations of the two major parties and I think that's good.
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  • CH156378
    CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    "I don’t think I’m going to lose, but if I do, I don’t think you’re ever going to see me again, folks. I think I’ll go to Turnberry and play golf or something"
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,394
    Iraq War Vet: Trump University Fired Me 'Because I Was In The Military'

    http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_574eff95e4b0c3752dcc1505
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,542
    Ryan still hasn't thrown in his hat into the Trump camp !
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Ryan still hasn't thrown in his hat into the Trump camp !

    he will....get ready to make America great again ! then watch as rats run for cover.

    man Jose we go thru this every election year and every election year some whine and some celebrate but in the end we deal with what we have, remember when Obama was running ? I was dead set against him (still am) but my life moved on with or without him and some of my concerns and prediction's happened..like I said he is softer than a sneaker full of shit and look at the dumb bastard traveling around the world apologizing for America and in all places he goes to Japan and apologizes (so I've heard) but anyway I was right about him and when Trump gets elected you and the others on the train will have concerns and prediction's that will happen and you can say I told ya so but at the end of the day your life will change very little from what it is now.

    Godfather.

  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,289
    I don't think Ryan will get behind Trump. He is the exact opposite of Trump and endorsing a mad man will hurt him in the future ... but if he doesn't, the party may ostracize him, and I'm thinking he is willing to take that chance.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    edited June 2016
    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/mark-cuban-questions-whether-donald-trump-is-a-billionaire/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab6a&linkId=25107235

    Good point...why put your name on something as stupid as steaks? At Sharper Image?

    Seems like the orange guy is/was desperate for cash
    Cuban also seems certain that he has more money than Trump, who claims to be worth north of $10 billion.

    "It's not even close, I do," Cuban told the radio show. "The reason I know is when you file your federal election campaign reports, you have to list all your cash and liquid securities and bonds--you have to list them one by one. So we know without any question that as of May 27, Donald doesn't have more than $165 million in cash and securities and bonds. And trust me, I've got a lot of more than that in cash, securities, and bonds. And so you know, I'm willing to bet dimes against dollars that that's pretty much what he's got."

    Cuban's own net worth is estimated to be $3.2 billion by Forbes (Forbes puts Trump's net worth at $4.5 billion).
    I'm sure his real estate is all mortgaged to the hilt....I wonder if he's even worth $1 billion
    Post edited by Gern Blansten on
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144

    Ryan still hasn't thrown in his hat into the Trump camp !

    he will....get ready to make America great again ! then watch as rats run for cover.

    man Jose we go thru this every election year and every election year some whine and some celebrate but in the end we deal with what we have, remember when Obama was running ? I was dead set against him (still am) but my life moved on with or without him and some of my concerns and prediction's happened..like I said he is softer than a sneaker full of shit and look at the dumb bastard traveling around the world apologizing for America and in all places he goes to Japan and apologizes (so I've heard) but anyway I was right about him and when Trump gets elected you and the others on the train will have concerns and prediction's that will happen and you can say I told ya so but at the end of the day your life will change very little from what it is now.

    Godfather.

    so you've heard? That was false...like a lot of the crap you post
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    Ryan still hasn't thrown in his hat into the Trump camp !

    he will....get ready to make America great again ! then watch as rats run for cover.

    man Jose we go thru this every election year and every election year some whine and some celebrate but in the end we deal with what we have, remember when Obama was running ? I was dead set against him (still am) but my life moved on with or without him and some of my concerns and prediction's happened..like I said he is softer than a sneaker full of shit and look at the dumb bastard traveling around the world apologizing for America and in all places he goes to Japan and apologizes (so I've heard) but anyway I was right about him and when Trump gets elected you and the others on the train will have concerns and prediction's that will happen and you can say I told ya so but at the end of the day your life will change very little from what it is now.

    Godfather.

    so you've heard? That was false...like a lot of the crap you post
    well you know everything so please correct me, unlike some folks on here I am always willing to own up to my mistakes rather than side step the topic and fly off on a totally different topic.

    Godfather

  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,144
    http://www.snopes.com/obama-apology-hiroshima/

    If I spent my time correcting you I would be on here 24/7. You are a true Faux News acolyte
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Godfather.
    Godfather. Posts: 12,504

    http://www.snopes.com/obama-apology-hiroshima/

    If I spent my time correcting you I would be on here 24/7. You are a true Faux News acolyte

    and your efforts are appreciated......fox news acolyte ? is that a union term for bullheaded ? LOL !!!!

    Godfather.

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    According to Forbes Trump Hotels (later Trump Entertainment) bankrupted twice and NEVER ACTUALLY MADE A PROFIT!

    PGA pulled their championship from his course and moved it to MEXICO hahhahaha you can't make this shit up!
    Mark Cuban slayed his "business savvy" recently as well.
    My greatest hope is that he gets crushed in the general and his brand continues to sink until he's nothing but a laughingstock (he already is, but a poor one would be nice lol)
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