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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,748

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
    dignin said:

    mrussel1 said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    Obama attacks ISIS for real...by killing their leader

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3640726/ISIS-leader-Abu-Bakr-al-Baghdadi-killed-air-strike-Raqqa-according-pro-Islamic-State-news-agency.html

    like...today
    If Drudge Report didn't link it, it didn't happen. That's the only place I get my information. Plus, I'm sure Obama didn't say 'radical Islamist leader', ergo he won't really be dead.
    Now you get it.
    Yeah, I struggled with this one. But as soon as a guy with an orange face said it, it clicked. Now I can see why he is the standard bearer of the grand old party.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,206
    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/06/andrea-mitchell-president-obama-just-eviscerated-donald-trump-in-that-extraordinary-speech/
    “This was a passionate cry from the heart about his vision for America,” Mitchell said. “He has never before taken on Donald Trump, and he just eviscerated Donald Trump in that extraordinary speech. President Obama basically saying, ‘Do you think that using a phrase is a military strategy? Do you think that we sit here saying, well, maybe if we used the phrase radical Islamic terrorists then we could defeat ISIL?'
    Hilarious...Obama just destroyed that combover headed dumbass
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,152

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,206

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
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    PJPOWERPJPOWER In Yo Face Posts: 6,499
    edited June 2016

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,311
    PJPOWER said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    so false. if they buy goods they pay taxes. the only things illegals don't pay taxes on is income...or the same as people like Donald Trump.
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    josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 28,489
    pjhawks said:

    PJPOWER said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    so false. if they buy goods they pay taxes. the only things illegals don't pay taxes on is income...or the same as people like Donald Trump.
    Exactly and they get payed less than anyone else who happens to be documented they are not making the same as you or I ..
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,018

    pjhawks said:

    PJPOWER said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    so false. if they buy goods they pay taxes. the only things illegals don't pay taxes on is income...or the same as people like Donald Trump.
    Exactly and they get payed less than anyone else who happens to be documented they are not making the same as you or I ..
    To add to this, I'll bet they'd gladly trade paying the same income taxes in exchange for having the same working regulations applied to them as American citizens. Of course that won't happen, as what Trump neglects to mention is that a cheap and unregulated workforce, while unethical, helps America's economy. If I'm a business owner without a strong moral compass, would I pay $5 an hour to an employee who appreciates it and works his or her ass off for as many hours as I tell him or her to, and who I can dismiss when I feel like it, or pay twice that for an employee who works half as hard, won't work over a certain amount of hours, and comes with liability to the business? This is a decision that tons of business owners make (probably Trump included), because their primary concern is the bottom line.
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,152

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,311

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    Cool, if you have no problem paying for someone else's bills then send me some cash for my savings. Better yet, I need new windows but I don't really want to pay for the install. I'll pm you my paypal.
    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
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    RoleModelsinBlood31RoleModelsinBlood31 Austin TX Posts: 6,152
    pjhawks said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    Cool, if you have no problem paying for someone else's bills then send me some cash for my savings. Better yet, I need new windows but I don't really want to pay for the install. I'll pm you my paypal.
    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
    I like that plan! Or be like Hillary and take Gern's money all the while lying through my teeth and acting like I hate him and vowing to fight him and stuff?
    I'm like an opening band for your mom.
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    Cliffy6745Cliffy6745 Posts: 33,663
    Someone's polling numbers have fallen fast
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    Reminder:
    Discuss, disagree and debate politely. It's possible to disagree with people without being abusive, and it's a requirement here.
    http://community.pearljam.com/discussion/228366/forum-posting-guidelines

    Discuss the topic, not the people discussing the topic.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
    PJPOWER said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    And illegals have no problem not contributing a dime in taxes to that same child.
    yeah they are all takers, soaking up all the resources....

    there are more poor white americans on social programs than undocumented workers.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317

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    what does it matter if obama doesn't say "radical islamic terrorism"? you conservatives are really really hung up on that. does it make a difference?
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
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    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    So now Trump is theorizing on Obama being in cahoots with terrorists and still keeps saying the gunman in Orlando was born in Afghanistan when in fact he was born right here in Queens NY , this guy is a habitual compulsive liar , please prove me wrong you Trumpsters your candidate is a total bafoon !!!

    You know it won't happen, the only response will be some canned troll comment thst barely makes sense and is of no relevance.
    I know his fallowers are totally blinded by their idiocy of believing this nut case ...
    There aren't any real followers that post here regularly, pjfan is just a troll who enjoys seeing people squirm, godfather is just a hater of liberals who accepts trump for the same reason, and BS doesn't like trump either, but he joins the troll party in order to deny any claims of racism and further his ridiculous neocon opinions.
    Haven't joined a troll party... just can't let the self hating surrender socialist caucus from being the only voice out there. The PJ fan base I know is made of stiffer stuff then what often appears on the AMT.
    Self hating? Wtf?
    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
    pjhawks said:

    eddiec said:

    my2hands said:

    Trump is a massive "down the ticket" disaster for Republicans... I'm not so sure he makes it to November, he won't be able to keep it together now that amateur hour is over

    The Republican part is such a fucking disgrace... believe me, I'm no republican, but I do like to have quality smart people on both sides to balance things out and have a real discussion... This new brand of Republicans that is coming out in the past 10 years is an absolute joke it is a disgrace of a a major party in America

    He has surprised me quite a bit. I was surprised that he was able to outlast the others and now I'm surprised that he hasn't become more of a viable candidate.

    I agree...I don't see him lasting. Once the pressure starts to release his tax returns he might just bail to save face.
    I think he'll be around come November. I still don't know myself who I'll vote for but I can't stand Hillary and trump does interest me because of his view on our country's need for protection. To me that doesn't outweigh his idiocy and moronic statements, yet, but his wall plan and focus on our safety is important to me
    You really think Trump cares more for American's safety than the other candidates?
    It's one of the tactics he uses to drum up the masses because he really has nothing else besides building a wall and banning Muslims. But in reality he knows nothing of how to protect Americans. His whole life has been pampered. He is as far away from military as they come.

    Yeah I think he does. I think his wall plan is not out of racism but out of his want to focus on those who are here legally and to try to help our economy without having to use federal money to support those who aren't citizens. I think Hillary is just as pampered- she didn't get born with millions from her dad, but she certainly doesn't understand the middle and lower class people either, she accept payments and donations from Wall Street while saying she wants to take politics away from them. Making a living off of them while saying you're going to cut off your bloodline just isn't believable. And trumps point on Muslims even though he says it completely moronically is that we need to treat immigrants from Canada for example completely differently than immigrants from dangerous places like Syria where there are dangerous radical extremist elements.

    I think his attacks on Obama are justified too, and that Hillary ought to show a little fight herself. Obama got angry at trump today in his speech but never once got angry at the terrorist? Trumps just a loudmouth douche but Obama attacks him back instead of verbally attacking Isis showing that we're not going to let this affect us- I think his focus is aimed at the wrong people. He needs to show that he's focused on helping us, not focused on apologizing to the rest of the world for what we've done in the past.
    What federal money goes to illegals?
    Sorry I meant tax paying citizens for illegals schooling and things like hospitals having to provide emergency care for illegals, my bad.
    As a taxpayer I have no problem with my money going to pay for an "illegal" child hit by a car or suffering in any way whatsoever.

    Think it through please.
    Cool, if you have no problem paying for someone else's bills then send me some cash for my savings. Better yet, I need new windows but I don't really want to pay for the install. I'll pm you my paypal.
    just be like Trump. hire contractors, agree to a price, but when done pay whatever you like and let them try to sue you
    i like this idea. let's vote for trump and make this the new american way!!
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,198

    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    Deporting illegals, not citizens is what Trump will do.

    What do you do with illegals who have had children on American soil and they are minors?
    Send them home and make them take the kids with them. When the kids are of legal age, 18, the kids can come back -- without their parents -- and enjoy their rights as citizens.

    With no application process?
    The children wouldn't need an application. They are natural born citizens. But until they are 18, they are not legally responsible for themselves. So, if we're wondering what to do with the adults with children, send the whole family back to wherever they came from, and when the kids are legally responsible for themselves, they are welcome back as citizens. . . If I were running for president, that's what I would propose if someone asked me about the kids. But people don't usually want to hear my answers, so, whatever.

    You're a teacher ?
    Why ask this 2x? And why does it matter?

    Im really unsure as to why anyone thinks anyone in the country illegally should get to stay. That's just nonsense. Now I understand because we've had gutless leadership that the problem has grown to a point where we need a middle ground solution, but I find it nuts and frankly offensive for people to state that the country doesn't have the right to enforce the laws. Wtf?
    I agree with immigration reform that's not what dreams & GF & I guess you want to deport everybody outta here you guys are wrong & so is Trump so go ahead keep on yelling about the immigrants !!
    I don't think it's realistic to deport everyone since we let the problem get so big before fixing it. And part of fixing it is making it easier for some to become citizens. I have no love for trump overall but doesn't mean he is wrong on everything.
    hippiemom = goodness
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    my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,117

    Someone's polling numbers have fallen fast

    he is going to sink like a rock...

    because people know this shit isn't a game
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
    Trump's policy plan.

    1. Pick any issue.
    2.????????????
    3. america is made great again.


    just like the underpants gnomes.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124
    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    So now Trump is theorizing on Obama being in cahoots with terrorists and still keeps saying the gunman in Orlando was born in Afghanistan when in fact he was born right here in Queens NY , this guy is a habitual compulsive liar , please prove me wrong you Trumpsters your candidate is a total bafoon !!!

    You know it won't happen, the only response will be some canned troll comment thst barely makes sense and is of no relevance.
    I know his fallowers are totally blinded by their idiocy of believing this nut case ...
    There aren't any real followers that post here regularly, pjfan is just a troll who enjoys seeing people squirm, godfather is just a hater of liberals who accepts trump for the same reason, and BS doesn't like trump either, but he joins the troll party in order to deny any claims of racism and further his ridiculous neocon opinions.
    Haven't joined a troll party... just can't let the self hating surrender socialist caucus from being the only voice out there. The PJ fan base I know is made of stiffer stuff then what often appears on the AMT.
    I object to the deletion. It is within the guidlines.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
    Trump Unveils Plan to Crush ISIS: 'I Know How to Bankrupt a Large Organization'

    Andy Borowitz
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    Trump's policy plan.

    1. Pick any issue.
    2.????????????
    3. america is made great again.

    1. Pick any issue from this list https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
    2. Realize the sense of it.
    3. Enact it and America will be great again.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317

    Trump's policy plan.

    1. Pick any issue.
    2.????????????
    3. america is made great again.

    1. Pick any issue from this list https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions
    2. Realize the sense of it.
    3. Enact it and America will be great again.
    america never was as great as it could have been. and trump will never be president.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    So now Trump is theorizing on Obama being in cahoots with terrorists and still keeps saying the gunman in Orlando was born in Afghanistan when in fact he was born right here in Queens NY , this guy is a habitual compulsive liar , please prove me wrong you Trumpsters your candidate is a total bafoon !!!

    You know it won't happen, the only response will be some canned troll comment thst barely makes sense and is of no relevance.
    I know his fallowers are totally blinded by their idiocy of believing this nut case ...
    There aren't any real followers that post here regularly, pjfan is just a troll who enjoys seeing people squirm, godfather is just a hater of liberals who accepts trump for the same reason, and BS doesn't like trump either, but he joins the troll party in order to deny any claims of racism and further his ridiculous neocon opinions.
    Haven't joined a troll party... just can't let the self hating surrender socialist caucus from being the only voice out there. The PJ fan base I know is made of stiffer stuff then what often appears on the AMT.
    Self hating? Wtf?
    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    You think you're moving it forward through your "tolerance" but your inability to confront the radicalism that is slowly penetrating and consuming mainstream Islam is actually moving your country and the world backwards. 11 Islamic countries have laws on the books that state homosexuality is punishable by death. These countries oppress gays. These countries oppress women. These countries oppress christians. These countries oppress jews. Children are raised in these countries to believe these things and for many years they have come to our shores. Some are coming here due to their own persecution but when they come they do not leave their beliefs behind. Those beliefs come here and grow within their communities. Omar Mateen's father holds these views. The Iranian Imam who was welcomed into the Orlando community holds these views. These views are slowly but surely becoming mainstream and our westernized world has become so self hating to the point that we no longer confront these evil views here or overseas as we do not want to offend. We bend over backwards to be tolerant of the intolerant and refuse to impose our views of acceptance onto an islamic culture that is regressing. We will all regress with them.
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