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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317

    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317

    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    how about we make a little wager.

    if trump wins i never post on this forum again. if the democrat wins, you don't.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    Politics is not a game.
    It's very serious.
    Trump knows this.
    Hillary does not.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317
    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    So now Trump is theorizing on Obama being in cahoots with terrorists and still keeps saying the gunman in Orlando was born in Afghanistan when in fact he was born right here in Queens NY , this guy is a habitual compulsive liar , please prove me wrong you Trumpsters your candidate is a total bafoon !!!

    You know it won't happen, the only response will be some canned troll comment thst barely makes sense and is of no relevance.
    I know his fallowers are totally blinded by their idiocy of believing this nut case ...
    There aren't any real followers that post here regularly, pjfan is just a troll who enjoys seeing people squirm, godfather is just a hater of liberals who accepts trump for the same reason, and BS doesn't like trump either, but he joins the troll party in order to deny any claims of racism and further his ridiculous neocon opinions.
    Haven't joined a troll party... just can't let the self hating surrender socialist caucus from being the only voice out there. The PJ fan base I know is made of stiffer stuff then what often appears on the AMT.
    Self hating? Wtf?
    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    You think you're moving it forward through your "tolerance" but your inability to confront the radicalism that is slowly penetrating and consuming mainstream Islam is actually moving your country and the world backwards. 11 Islamic countries have laws on the books that state homosexuality is punishable by death. These countries oppress gays. These countries oppress women. These countries oppress christians. These countries oppress jews. Children are raised in these countries to believe these things and for many years they have come to our shores. Some are coming here due to their own persecution but when they come they do not leave their beliefs behind. Those beliefs come here and grow within their communities. Omar Mateen's father holds these views. The Iranian Imam who was welcomed into the Orlando community holds these views. These views are slowly but surely becoming mainstream and our westernized world has become so self hating to the point that we no longer confront these evil views here or overseas as we do not want to offend. We bend over backwards to be tolerant of the intolerant and refuse to impose our views of acceptance onto an islamic culture that is regressing. We will all regress with them.
    we are not going to invade all 11 of those countries to change it.

    your backward thinking, thinking that violence solves everything, is just that. backward thinking.

    here is an idea. how about you and the canadian military go try to change it.

    you can't address these things militarily. this has been going on for centuries. you can't change things and change entire cultures at the barrel of a gun.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    Ok, those are all in the past.
    What do you do to make America great again? Is there even one issue from https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions that you can agree even a little?
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,317

    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    Ok, those are all in the past.
    What do you do to make America great again? Is there even one issue from https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions that you can agree even a little?
    past is prologue. people who do not learn from the past repeat it.

    and no, i disagree with trump on everything. maybe it is because i read and converse at higher than a 5th grade level.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,312

    Trump Unveils Plan to Crush ISIS: 'I Know How to Bankrupt a Large Organization'

    Andy Borowitz

    Perfect
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    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    Ok, those are all in the past.
    What do you do to make America great again? Is there even one issue from https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions that you can agree even a little?
    past is prologue. people who do not learn from the past repeat it.

    and no, i disagree with trump on everything. maybe it is because i read and converse at higher than a 5th grade level.
    Even about currency manipulation?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877

    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    Ok, those are all in the past.
    What do you do to make America great again? Is there even one issue from https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions that you can agree even a little?
    Tell me the period in US history where America was 'greater' than it is today. I guarantee we can all come up with several reasons why today is better. I'm just curious when this mythical time existed.
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    ^^^
    Pre-Vietnam and Post WW2
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    “"Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are little short guys that wear yarmulkes every day."
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    Is this a correct statement by Trump? http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/14/politics/obama-pushes-back-against-criticism-over-terrorism-rhetoric/
    Trump responded to the President during his Thursday night rally in Greensboro, North Carolina, saying Obama "was more angry at me than he was at the shooter."

    "The level of anger, that's the kind of anger that he should have for the shooter and these killers that shouldn't be here,"
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    “It would take an hour and a half to learn everything there is to learn about missiles. … I think I know most of it anyway.”
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    EnkiduEnkidu So Cal Posts: 2,996

    Politics is not a game.
    It's very serious.
    Trump knows this.
    Hillary does not.

    This is a lame joke, right? Trump taking this seriously? "Little Marco?" "Pocahontas?" What serious politician would say asinine stuff like that?
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    On Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus: “I call Reince Mr. Switzerland … He’s doing a great job as peacemaker.”

    Mr.Switzerland. WTF?! Lol!!
    Does anyone know if Trump has a nickname for Paul Ryan? I was thinking something like, Lyin Ryan.
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,312
    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    This is like saying when Hillary is president she will not be mine.
    Tell us then, how great could've America been?

    ummm, she won't be YOURS because you aren't an american.

    where do i start?

    how about we let slavery go on for hundreds of years and it took a civil war that killed hundreds of thousands to end it.

    we kept african americans as second class citizens for a century after the war ended.

    we did not allow women to vote until the 1920s.

    we put japanese americans in interment camps during world war II.

    we oppressed gay people until the last 10 years.

    our government murdered college students at kent state.

    we invaded vietnam.

    we went to war in iraq based on lies.

    we continually support the apartheid regime in israel.

    there are all black spots on american history. i could go on, but you get the idea..
    Ok, those are all in the past.
    What do you do to make America great again? Is there even one issue from https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions that you can agree even a little?
    Tell me the period in US history where America was 'greater' than it is today. I guarantee we can all come up with several reasons why today is better. I'm just curious when this mythical time existed.
    I'm sure it all started to go downhill when the woman and black man were franchised.......
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    PJfanwillneverleave1PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited June 2016
    Enkidu said:

    Politics is not a game.
    It's very serious.
    Trump knows this.
    Hillary does not.

    This is a lame joke, right? Trump taking this seriously? "Little Marco?" "Pocahontas?" What serious politician would say asinine stuff like that?
    No it is not a joke - Paid for by Hillary.
    This is asinine https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C0ei2h-0QDU
    Especially from a serious politician like Hillary.
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    BS44325BS44325 Posts: 6,124

    BS44325 said:

    PJ_Soul said:

    BS44325 said:

    rgambs said:

    rgambs said:

    So now Trump is theorizing on Obama being in cahoots with terrorists and still keeps saying the gunman in Orlando was born in Afghanistan when in fact he was born right here in Queens NY , this guy is a habitual compulsive liar , please prove me wrong you Trumpsters your candidate is a total bafoon !!!

    You know it won't happen, the only response will be some canned troll comment thst barely makes sense and is of no relevance.
    I know his fallowers are totally blinded by their idiocy of believing this nut case ...
    There aren't any real followers that post here regularly, pjfan is just a troll who enjoys seeing people squirm, godfather is just a hater of liberals who accepts trump for the same reason, and BS doesn't like trump either, but he joins the troll party in order to deny any claims of racism and further his ridiculous neocon opinions.
    Haven't joined a troll party... just can't let the self hating surrender socialist caucus from being the only voice out there. The PJ fan base I know is made of stiffer stuff then what often appears on the AMT.
    Self hating? Wtf?
    apparently those of us who oppose fighting a war and are all about moving this country forward in effort to improve it are self hating.
    You think you're moving it forward through your "tolerance" but your inability to confront the radicalism that is slowly penetrating and consuming mainstream Islam is actually moving your country and the world backwards. 11 Islamic countries have laws on the books that state homosexuality is punishable by death. These countries oppress gays. These countries oppress women. These countries oppress christians. These countries oppress jews. Children are raised in these countries to believe these things and for many years they have come to our shores. Some are coming here due to their own persecution but when they come they do not leave their beliefs behind. Those beliefs come here and grow within their communities. Omar Mateen's father holds these views. The Iranian Imam who was welcomed into the Orlando community holds these views. These views are slowly but surely becoming mainstream and our westernized world has become so self hating to the point that we no longer confront these evil views here or overseas as we do not want to offend. We bend over backwards to be tolerant of the intolerant and refuse to impose our views of acceptance onto an islamic culture that is regressing. We will all regress with them.
    we are not going to invade all 11 of those countries to change it.

    your backward thinking, thinking that violence solves everything, is just that. backward thinking.

    here is an idea. how about you and the canadian military go try to change it.

    you can't address these things militarily. this has been going on for centuries. you can't change things and change entire cultures at the barrel of a gun.
    And you can't address it by doing nothing. You are more concerned with confronting conservative thought then Islamic thought.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877

    ^^^
    Pre-Vietnam and Post WW2

    Ah yes. The 50s. Segregation in the South. Alexandria VA school district closed its schools for two years rather than integrate. Massive Resistance was in full force.

    Korea. Good Ole Korea. The first war fight on the bullshit domino theory. Boys drafted and killed. Oh yeah and the Arms race. That was cool too. Good for the people in eastern Europe.

    Women had it good too. Few protections against sexual assault. Harassed in the work place.

    Should we get into the gays?

    Yeah I guess it was decent for straight white guys. Btw, what's your demographic?

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    ^^^
    I thought the Nixon, JFK and Eisenhower are hailed as great presidents?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877

    ^^^
    I thought the Nixon, JFK and Eisenhower are hailed as great presidents?

    Really? Ike was okay. Jfk was okay but he perpetuated Vietnam. His cabinet was the origin of neo liberals. RFK was very good on civil rights. Nixon was awful on everything but China.
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    ^^^
    Is it possible Trump emulates Nixon a little with his stance on China?
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877

    ^^^
    Is it possible Trump emulates Nixon a little with his stance on China?

    Uh, no. He opened up diplomacy that led to trade to China. Trump is the opposite.
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    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    Is it possible Trump emulates Nixon a little with his stance on China?

    Uh, no. He opened up diplomacy that led to trade to China. Trump is the opposite.
    Bringing them to the table is what I was getting at.
    Nixon did this yes but america has slowly drifted away.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877

    ^^^
    Is it possible Trump emulates Nixon a little with his stance on China?

    Uh, no. He opened up diplomacy that led to trade to China. Trump is the opposite.
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    mrussel1 said:

    ^^^
    Is it possible Trump emulates Nixon a little with his stance on China?

    Uh, no. He opened up diplomacy that led to trade to China. Trump is the opposite.
    Trump realizes how important China is if you just get back to fair trade dealings with them.
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    CH156378CH156378 Posts: 1,539
    Happy Birthday, Donald!!!!
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    CH156378 said:

    Happy Birthday, Donald!!!!

    :clap:
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,877
    edited June 2016


    Trump wants to start a trade war with China with tariffs. But paradoxically, also wants to kill the TPP which China doesn't want either. He talks out of both sides of his mouth which means he is lying or has no real knowledge of global economics. This is a primary reason I dislike him so much. He doesn't have a coherent strategy.
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    mrussel1 said:



    Trump wants to start a trade war with China with tariffs. But paradoxically, also wants to kill the TPP which China doesn't want either. He talks out of both sides of his mouth which means he is lying or has no real knowledge of global economics. This is a primary reason I dislike him so much. He doesn't have a coherent strategy.

    This only about the 4th time I've posted this. https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions/us-china-trade-reform
    Read it and say why it is incoherent
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