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  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Weed will be legal in another year. Progress.

    Happy 4/20

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/philpott-un-marijuana-legislation-legalize-1.3544554

    I won't be smoking it... but this is long overdue.

    Very, very progressive thinking.
    Only a pothead can gather sense that article.
    It is mumbo jumbo.
    Puff, puff, pass.
    Duuude....in one year we will have a plan dude.....you will see duuude...
    I love pot mkay.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Weed will be legal in another year. Progress.

    Happy 4/20

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/philpott-un-marijuana-legislation-legalize-1.3544554

    I won't be smoking it... but this is long overdue.

    Very, very progressive thinking.
    Only a pothead can gather sense that article.
    It is mumbo jumbo.
    Puff, puff, pass.
    Duuude....in one year we will have a plan dude.....you will see duuude...
    I love pot mkay.
    I'm thinking only a pothead can decipher your post. Or a gas sniffer... but definitely one of the two.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Weed will be legal in another year. Progress.

    Happy 4/20

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/philpott-un-marijuana-legislation-legalize-1.3544554

    I won't be smoking it... but this is long overdue.

    Very, very progressive thinking.
    Only a pothead can gather sense that article.
    It is mumbo jumbo.
    Puff, puff, pass.
    Duuude....in one year we will have a plan dude.....you will see duuude...
    I love pot mkay.
    I'm thinking only a pothead can decipher your post. Or a gas sniffer... but definitely one of the two.
    Please tell me what that article surmised....
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Weed will be legal in another year. Progress.

    Happy 4/20

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/philpott-un-marijuana-legislation-legalize-1.3544554

    I won't be smoking it... but this is long overdue.

    Very, very progressive thinking.
    Only a pothead can gather sense that article.
    It is mumbo jumbo.
    Puff, puff, pass.
    Duuude....in one year we will have a plan dude.....you will see duuude...
    I love pot mkay.
    I'm thinking only a pothead can decipher your post. Or a gas sniffer... but definitely one of the two.
    Please tell me what that article surmised....
    Legalized dope soon.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

    dignin said:

    Weed will be legal in another year. Progress.

    Happy 4/20

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/philpott-un-marijuana-legislation-legalize-1.3544554

    I won't be smoking it... but this is long overdue.

    Very, very progressive thinking.
    Only a pothead can gather sense that article.
    It is mumbo jumbo.
    Puff, puff, pass.
    Duuude....in one year we will have a plan dude.....you will see duuude...
    I love pot mkay.
    I'm thinking only a pothead can decipher your post. Or a gas sniffer... but definitely one of the two.
    Please tell me what that article surmised....
    Legalized dope soon.
    Until then, police are in limbo
    Keep arresting and giving potheads a record.
    Hang in there potheads, your day will come.
  • Thirty Bills Unpaid
    Thirty Bills Unpaid Posts: 16,881
    ^^^
    This is kind of the shits for sure.
    "My brain's a good brain!"
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    .

    Until then, police are in limbo
    Keep arresting and giving potheads a record.
    Hang in there potheads, your day will come.


    Police are not in limbo ... the law says unless you got a licence it's still illegal ... however I doubt most police using common sense will not hassle those people who are possessing small amounts...failure for the police to use common sense i suspect many judges will kick the cases.

    By the way how many of these cops, crown attorneys and judges have been involved in convicting young people over the years giving them a criminal record ... for what ... a little weed, and how many of those opposed the legalization of an essentially very helpful plant ply themselves with liquor, smoke, eat at fast food restaurants and participate in so many legal, yet cosume these products .. lets not even get into the opiates that are handed out like candy in this country. So do yourself and everyone else a favour ... educate yourself a little, marijuana never was, never will be the harmful plant that some uneducated people's like us to believe ... marijuana is just another example of another distraction the government would like people to focus on instead of the real issues...I support our current liberal government on this 100%...if a little weed legalization bothers you so...thats your problem...
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    edited April 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    .

    Until then, police are in limbo
    Keep arresting and giving potheads a record.
    Hang in there potheads, your day will come.


    Police are not in limbo ... the law says unless you got a licence it's still illegal ... however I doubt most police using common sense will not hassle those people who are possessing small amounts...failure for the police to use common sense i suspect many judges will kick the cases.

    By the way how many of these cops, crown attorneys and judges have been involved in convicting young people over the years giving them a criminal record ... for what ... a little weed, and how many of those opposed the legalization of an essentially very helpful plant ply themselves with liquor, smoke, eat at fast food restaurants and participate in so many legal, yet cosume these products .. lets not even get into the opiates that are handed out like candy in this country. So do yourself and everyone else a favour ... educate yourself a little, marijuana never was, never will be the harmful plant that some uneducated people's like us to believe ... marijuana is just another example of another distraction the government would like people to focus on instead of the real issues...I support our current liberal government on this 100%...if a little weed legalization bothers you so...thats your problem...

    I support full legalization and see it as the best way forward from a public health and social policy point of view. Reducing or eliminating criminal sanctions on drugs has been beneficial in every jurisdiction that has gone in that direction, from Portugal to Uruguay, with significant reductions in harmful use and involvement with the legal system, with all the negatives that implies. However, marijuana isn't harmless. Any substance that is physiologically active enough to provide any benefit also has the potential for harm; there's just no reasonable way to deny that. It comes down to each person making a risk-benefit analysis for themselves, like anything else.

    Edit - quotes look to be screwed up again - I've italicized my response.
    Post edited by oftenreading on
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016
    ^^^
    For medicinal purposes I support the legalization.
    Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society.
    Production and general motivation will decrease.
    The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction.
    Wait a year? For what?
    They need to tell us something more than this.
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    For medicinal purposes I support the legalization.
    Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society.
    Production and general motivation will decrease.
    The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction.
    Wait a year? For what?
    They need to tell us something more than this.

    Why not for recreational purposes too? People want to chill with wine or whatever, why not a nice bowl or three?

    I've been smoking daily for a damn long time and while our weekends may be fairly lazy as we choose, neither my husband nor I feel / act entitled, we kick ass at work, and live a comfortable life.

    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done!
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    For medicinal purposes I support the legalization.
    Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society.
    Production and general motivation will decrease.
    The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction.
    Wait a year? For what?
    They need to tell us something more than this.

    Well, you're free to give your opinion but it's going to be viewed as fairly limited if you don't want to look at facts and figures.

    The evidence from jurisdictions that have legalized or decriminalized doesn't support your position.

    I agree that more detail from the federal government on their plan would be helpful.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    ^^^
    I realize about the opinion being fairly limited.
    It's just an opinion. Our current govt doesn't really seem to provide even a remote idea of how this could work.
    I really don't want youth to be able to access pot as easy as cigarettes - legally.
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    They already can. Both cigarettes and pot will remain illegal for those underage. We all know how well that works.
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    edited April 2016
    ^^^
    Yeah, it doesn't work to well for those that get addicted from starting underage.
    Typically if you don't pick up the smoking/drinking habit before you become of age you tend to stay away from it in life.
    Becoming addicted to pot at a young age (18) through legal means can't be a good thing.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    oftenreading said:

    lukin2006 said:

    .

    Until then, police are in limbo
    Keep arresting and giving potheads a record.
    Hang in there potheads, your day will come.
    Police are not in limbo ... the law says unless you got a licence it's still illegal ... however I doubt most police using common sense will not hassle those people who are possessing small amounts...failure for the police to use common sense i suspect many judges will kick the cases.

    By the way how many of these cops, crown attorneys and judges have been involved in convicting young people over the years giving them a criminal record ... for what ... a little weed, and how many of those opposed the legalization of an essentially very helpful plant ply themselves with liquor, smoke, eat at fast food restaurants and participate in so many legal, yet cosume these products .. lets not even get into the opiates that are handed out like candy in this country. So do yourself and everyone else a favour ... educate yourself a little, marijuana never was, never will be the harmful plant that some uneducated people's like us to believe ... marijuana is just another example of another distraction the government would like people to focus on instead of the real issues...I support our current liberal government on this 100%...if a little weed legalization bothers you so...thats your problem...

    I support full legalization and see it as the best way forward from a public health and social policy point of view. Reducing or eliminating criminal sanctions on drugs has been beneficial in every jurisdiction that has gone in that direction, from Portugal to Uruguay, with significant reductions in harmful use and involvement with the legal system, with all the negatives that implies. However, marijuana isn't harmless. Any substance that is physiologically active enough to provide any benefit also has the potential for harm; there's just no reasonable way to deny that. It comes down to each person making a risk-benefit analysis for themselves, like anything else.

    Edit - quotes look to be screwed up again - I've italicized my response.

    I support full legalization as well ... only imbeciles want to keep it illegal
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    For medicinal purposes I support the legalization.
    Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society.
    Production and general motivation will decrease.
    The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction.
    Wait a year? For what?
    They need to tell us something more than this.

    Why not for recreational purposes too? People want to chill with wine or whatever, why not a nice bowl or three?

    I've been smoking daily for a damn long time and while our weekends may be fairly lazy as we choose, neither my husband nor I feel / act entitled, we kick ass at work, and live a comfortable life.

    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done!

    All those are myths I think. An awful lot has been accomplished by pot head/stoners...I also think those so opposed might be surprised at those who they deal with in daily life are tokers...heheheh
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    Yeah, it doesn't work to well for those that get addicted from starting underage.
    Typically if you don't pick up the smoking/drinking habit before you become of age you tend to stay away from it in life.
    Becoming addicted to pot at a young age (18) through legal means can't be a good thing.

    pots non addictive...

    tobacco is very addictive...and very legal
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • PJfanwillneverleave1
    PJfanwillneverleave1 Posts: 12,885
    Part of me still thinks that if it becomes legal many, many workplaces will have a ban on employees smoking it at work.
    I don't think many businesses want their employees going for a 10min joint break.
  • lukin2006
    lukin2006 Posts: 9,087
    Pot has only been illegal sine the mid 1930's, why? Maybe some big industry was starting to really grow! This industry was/is fully opposed to people using a potential and very safe healing plant that can be consumed in many ways that people could grow at home...and essentially thats more than likely why it remains illegal...but in the near future it will be very legal...the movement is on.
    I have certain rules I live by ... My First Rule ... I don't believe anything the government tells me ... George Carlin

    "Life Is What Happens To You When Your Busy Making Other Plans" John Lennon
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited April 2016
    lukin2006 said:

    hedonist said:

    PJfanwillneverleave1 said:

    ^^^
    For medicinal purposes I support the legalization.
    Without getting into a giant debate with studies,facts, stats etc I feel that if it is legalized for everyday use we will become an even lazier entitled society.
    Production and general motivation will decrease.
    The liberal plan is anything but - there is no iota of anything to come just a blanket statement that is confusing and without direction.
    Wait a year? For what?
    They need to tell us something more than this.

    Why not for recreational purposes too? People want to chill with wine or whatever, why not a nice bowl or three?

    I've been smoking daily for a damn long time and while our weekends may be fairly lazy as we choose, neither my husband nor I feel / act entitled, we kick ass at work, and live a comfortable life.

    If hope can grow from dirt like me, it can be done!

    All those are myths I think. An awful lot has been accomplished by pot head/stoners...I also think those so opposed might be surprised at those who they deal with in daily life are tokers...heheheh
    Yup! Many of us out there (and in here).

    As to the post *edit - now above, who'd be smoking or ingesting it while working or driving for that matter? Apply the same parameters to it being on the job as alcohol and anything else that may impair.

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